Drink Driving Confession Video

BoyBlue_1985 said:
tidyman said:
Every government in my memory has spent millions trying to convince people how serious drink driving is. Yet it still remains a very minor offence, usually punishable with a couple of hundred pounds fine.

If they made a first offence of drink driving punishable with a mandatory short custodial sentence, it would reduce the crime overnight by at least 50% in my opinion. Possibly more.

Won't happen though.
Losing your licence for 2 years is a pretty hefty sentence, for a lot of people that means a loss of a job. They deserve it but a custodial sentence would not stop people doing it as a fine and losing your licence has made a little difference

Well we'll never know because it will never happen but my feeling is you're wrong.

Drink driving is the one crime that transcends all types of people from all walks of lives. There are many people who would be considered absolute model citizens, who would never dream of breaking any other law, who convince themselves that a bit of drink driving is ok.

Of course, the loss of a driving license can be a major headache but unless your job actually involves driving, it is usually manageable for a year or 18 months.

My guess is the thought of a guaranteed prison sentence would be a sufficient deterrent for huge numbers of people who currently think the risk/reward ratio makes it worthwhile.
 
The main problem is that many drivers feel OK to drive if they are over the limit by a small amount. Some even claim to be safe to drive on four or five pints which is hardly a major session but is around twice the limit for most people assuming 4% strength beer. These drivers feel OK to drive so they don't worry about being caught. Telling them they might kill somebody has no effect because they don't think they'll ever be in that situation.
Consequently the only way to hammer home the message is to show incidents where the drunk driver is the victim of the accident but still loses his or her licence. For example the drunk driver could be driving at 30 in a 30 limit where it is perfectly safe to do so and be hit by a car coming out of a side road. The driver coming out of the side road is obviously to blame, but the drunk driver could be breathalysed and would lose their licence even though they were the "victim" in the collision.
Finally on road safety; there are a number of "specialist lawyers" advertising that they might be able to keep you on the road if you're in danger of losing your licence. Is there any hope for road safety campaigns while twats like this exist?
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
I can't decide whether he's offering a genuine warning for others or he's attempting to get a lesser sentence.

Only he will know that.

I'm sure like others, I'm from a generation, were in the 1970's especially, it was socially acceptable to drink and drive, and all I can say is "There by the grace of God.....".

I'm glad it's not socially accepted now.
 
Is there anyone else who thinks two pints or whatever units it is should be scrapped and the rule should be none .
 
If there is a chance i may have a drink even i will take a lift or get the train/taxi, nor do i smoke a j and jump in the car.

He should feel guilty and bad, shame he didn't think of the consequences first.
He still killed a man due to his own stupid actions, that other man can never feel guilt or remorse now he can't feel a thing because he is dead.
I have zero sympathy for him bit respect his acknowledgement of what he did and that he and he alone is to blame.
 
toby said:
Is there anyone else who thinks two pints or whatever units it is should be scrapped and the rule should be none .

Isn't there some stupid fact that a slice of bread has alcohol in it, I'm sure I read that somewhere.

Some countries do enforce zero alcohol. It's a fair point but I'm not sure a total ban would ever be applied in this Country due to the lobbying power of the various groups from the Licensing Trade.
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
toby said:
Is there anyone else who thinks two pints or whatever units it is should be scrapped and the rule should be none .

Isn't there some stupid fact that a slice of bread has alcohol in it, I'm sure I read that somewhere.

Some countries do enforce zero alcohol. It's a fair point but I'm not sure a total ban would ever be applied in this Country due to the lobbying power of the various groups from the Licensing Trade.

Not sure about bread, but fruit ferments in the stomach and turns to alcohol
Also products such as mouthwash and Lucozade contain alcohol, so a zero tolerance is a no go
 
An Ohio man who confessed on YouTube to killing a Navy veteran while driving drunk declared 'it should have been me' in court today before he was sentenced to 6 1/2 years prison.
Matthew Cordle, 22, had faced up to 8 1/2 years in prison for killing father Vincent Canzani in a wrong-way crash after a night bar-hopping with friends in June.
'Whatever my sentence may be, there's no fair sentence when it comes to the loss of a life,' Cordle told the judge before the sentence was handed down.
Franklin County Judge David Fais sentenced Cordle to six years for aggravated vehicular homicide and six months for driving under the influence of alcohol. He also revoked his driving privileges for life.

Cordle apologized to the family of his victim, Vincent Canzani, who was killed in the June crash. 'It should have been me that night, the guilty party, instead of an innocent man,' he said.
His guilty plea last month came just a week after he was indicted in a speedy process absent of the numerous court filings that usually cause such cases to drag on for weeks or months.

Canzani's daughter asked Fais for the maximum sentence.
'My father got a death sentence and did nothing wrong,' Angela Canzani told the judge.
Vincent Canzani was a talented artist and photographer who enjoyed working out and spending time with friends and family, she said. She said her children and her sister's children will never get to see their grandfather again.

The judge also read a letter from Vincent Canzani's ex-wife who said she believed Vincent Canzani would not have wanted a maximum sentence. She said she believes Cordle will keep his promise never to drink and drive again.
Cordle's father, Dave Cordle, told the judge he was 'disappointed, disgusted and heartbroken' at the choices his son made that night.
He did not ask for leniency, and told Canzani's family his heart was filled with sorrow at their loss and hopes someday they can forgive his son.
In a 3 1/2-minute video posted in early September, Cordle admitted he killed a man and said he 'made a mistake' when he decided to drive that night.
'My name is Matthew Cordle, and on June 22, 2013, I hit and killed Vincent Canzani,' he says somberly. 'This video will act as my confession.'
Cordle acknowledged having a drinking problem after the crash and entered a treatment program as prosecutors gathered evidence against him. He told his attorneys early on that he wanted to plead guilty but made the video against their advice.

Prosecutors say a heavily intoxicated Cordle denied causing an accident or killing anyone when he was first taken to a hospital after the crash, in which he suffered broken ribs and a fractured skull. His attorneys say he may have suffered a brain injury.
Cordle, who lives in Powell, a Columbus suburb, told Fais last month that he had no recollection of the crash, how much he'd had to drink that night or whether he'd had anything to eat.
'I drank so much I was blacked out,' Cordle said at the September 18 hearing where he pleaded guilty.
Prosecutor Ron O'Brien said he believed Cordle's remorse in the video was genuine, but he said any further interviews would be self-serving.
He also disputed Cordle's assertion in the confessional video that he could have fought the case against him, which O'Brien called 'a slam dunk.'
O'Brien sought the maximum sentence of 8 1/2 years. Cordle's attorneys asked for a sentence that was fair.
The video posted on YouTube has been viewed more than 2.3 million times. It begins with Cordle's face blurred as he describes how he has struggled with depression and was simply trying to have a good time with friends going 'from bar to bar' the night of the accident.
He then describes how he ended up driving into oncoming traffic on Interstate 670. Cordle's face becomes clear as he reveals his name and confesses to killing Canzani.
He ends the video by pleading with viewers not to drink and drive.

Cordle's conduct after the crash suggests a long sentence is not needed for him to understand the seriousness of what he did, according to the filing late Wednesday in Franklin County court.
That conduct included Cordle's decision to plead guilty as soon as possible without the usual months of back-and-forth court filings challenging evidence.
'A fair sentence is imperative in this case in order to send a message to other offenders and society that taking responsibility and trying to make something positive come from such a horrendous tragedy is an exemplary way to face such a tragic situation,' defense attorneys George Breitmayer and Martin Midian wrote in the filing.
Cordle pleaded guilty last month to charges of aggravated vehicular homicide and operating a vehicle under the influence of alcohol in the June death of Vincent Canzani of suburban Columbus.
At the time of the crash, Cordle's blood-alcohol level was more than twice the legal limit of 0.08.
He faces eight years for the homicide and six months for the drunken driving - which likely would be folded into the overall sentence – and a $15,000 fine as well as loss of driving privileges for life.
Cordle's online video confession, made against the advice of lawyers and released in early September, has been viewed more than 2.2 million times.
County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien, who has until Friday afternoon to respond, has said he plans to seek the maximum.

'I'll be, at the time of sentencing, in a position of showing the kind of sentences given in this county for people that get large amounts of alcohol in their system and kill people, and it will not be a four-year sentence,' O'Brien said September 18, the day Cordle pleaded guilty.
Cordle's video confession begins with his face blurred as he describes how he has struggled with depression and was simply trying to have a good time with friends going 'from bar to bar' the night of the accident.
He then describes how he ended up driving into oncoming traffic on Interstate 670. Cordle's face becomes clear as he reveals his name and confesses to killing Canzani.
He ends the video by pleading with viewers not to drink and drive.
 
toby said:
Is there anyone else who thinks two pints or whatever units it is should be scrapped and the rule should be none .

No, because a zero limit is unrealistic.
There is alcohol in perfume and aftershave, as well as some deodorants.
What about someone who had some sherry trifle for dessert?
Or a chocolate liquor?
The prisons are full to bursting as it is, without arresting someone for having a can of shandy bass.
 

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