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Dzeko (Merged)
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simon23
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Re: Dzeko
yeah i agree but putting him on the pitch at the moment isnt really effective as as you say we need wingers.....and he needs to stay central and not drift out to the wings where he is completely inaffective<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:54 pm --<br /><br />
couldnt agree more regarding his personality....but unfortunately you dont win football matches by having nice personalities
No17 said:simon23 said:possibly
but we cannt start experimenting at such a crucial time in the season
agree again...but once he is on the pitch, wouldn't it be more reasonable to try and cross the ball to him or play him out of position making him useless and his presence on the pitch an excuse for people to slagg him and say shit like "where he gets his price tag...."
yeah i agree but putting him on the pitch at the moment isnt really effective as as you say we need wingers.....and he needs to stay central and not drift out to the wings where he is completely inaffective<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:54 pm --<br /><br />
DetCity said:simon23 said:unfortunately the team cannt wait either...thats why he needs to be benched till the end of the season and then start a fresh with him next season
we play better at the moment without him.....tevez plays better without him and plays better with balo (if he can stay on the pitch long enough)!!!
The way Mancini's playing him reminds me of the way he blooded in Silva, which seemed to work. giving him starts in cup ties and the odd league game to get him used to the pace (which he seems to be struggling with). I can't help but like the guy, for some reason. He just seems like a grounded, good all around lad, who I hope will adjust to getting closed down quicker and succeed for years.
couldnt agree more regarding his personality....but unfortunately you dont win football matches by having nice personalities
Re: Dzeko
Interview in the Bosnian press ahead of international match against Romania. Parts relevant to City:
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Edin Džeko, Bosnian football star for Dnevni Avaz: I'll need half a year to adapt to City
Our biggest footballing star... arrived in Sarajevo yesterday with a smile on his face.
Q: Edin, you seem happy.
Džeko: I'm doing well, I have no reason not to be. I missed Bosnia and the national team since I wasn't with the squad in the USA. I'm happy to see my friends from the team again.
Q: How is everything in City?
- Great. I'm still adjusting. I think I'll need maybe half a year to fully adapt.
Q: We all expected for you to continue at City where you left off at Wolfsburg and score plenty of goals, but obviously that's not so easily done.
Džeko: No, but I'm not worried. The important thing is that I play and that the club believes in me. The goals will come.
Q: We get the impression that you've moved to a difficult (team) environment, with a lot of star players who don't get along particularly well. How much is that hampering your adjustment?
Džeko: It was difficult at Wolfsburg too when I first came, but that's normal. You need a little time to gel with the team and establish good relations with your colleagues. You have to go step by step. In Wolfsburg I fought for and won my place in the squad, there's no reason for me not to do that here as well.
...
Q: Did it ever cross your mind that this transfer to City might not end well? Are you afraid of that?
Džeko: I'm not afraid of anything, for I know that I have the necessary quality. I know what I'm capable of. If everything goes as it should, I expect that starting this summer I'll begin to show the best that I have to offer and be the same player I was at Wolfsburg.
Interview in the Bosnian press ahead of international match against Romania. Parts relevant to City:
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Edin Džeko, Bosnian football star for Dnevni Avaz: I'll need half a year to adapt to City
Our biggest footballing star... arrived in Sarajevo yesterday with a smile on his face.
Q: Edin, you seem happy.
Džeko: I'm doing well, I have no reason not to be. I missed Bosnia and the national team since I wasn't with the squad in the USA. I'm happy to see my friends from the team again.
Q: How is everything in City?
- Great. I'm still adjusting. I think I'll need maybe half a year to fully adapt.
Q: We all expected for you to continue at City where you left off at Wolfsburg and score plenty of goals, but obviously that's not so easily done.
Džeko: No, but I'm not worried. The important thing is that I play and that the club believes in me. The goals will come.
Q: We get the impression that you've moved to a difficult (team) environment, with a lot of star players who don't get along particularly well. How much is that hampering your adjustment?
Džeko: It was difficult at Wolfsburg too when I first came, but that's normal. You need a little time to gel with the team and establish good relations with your colleagues. You have to go step by step. In Wolfsburg I fought for and won my place in the squad, there's no reason for me not to do that here as well.
...
Q: Did it ever cross your mind that this transfer to City might not end well? Are you afraid of that?
Džeko: I'm not afraid of anything, for I know that I have the necessary quality. I know what I'm capable of. If everything goes as it should, I expect that starting this summer I'll begin to show the best that I have to offer and be the same player I was at Wolfsburg.
Re: Dzeko
Even by the progressively low standards of humanity some people sink to - using the word 'tumor' at someone else as a crass attempt to demean them, is truly nausiating. You should be ashamed.
I know I am,
knowing this other 'human' wears the same football shirt as me makes me heave.
balkanno said:Benarbia said:Fans who know abut football who watch without blue tinted specs know the truth
Tumor.
Even by the progressively low standards of humanity some people sink to - using the word 'tumor' at someone else as a crass attempt to demean them, is truly nausiating. You should be ashamed.
I know I am,
knowing this other 'human' wears the same football shirt as me makes me heave.
balkanno
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Re: Dzeko
@ANY1...
Ok, i take the Jersey off now, so you dont have to be.
Btw, moralizing?
*drakula-laugh*
@ANY1...
Ok, i take the Jersey off now, so you dont have to be.
Btw, moralizing?
*drakula-laugh*
Re: Dzeko
I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
scorer
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Re: Dzeko
It's a fair point you make.
You seem to take alot of interest in our magnificent club.... are you becoming a closet Blue??
BTWm you are welcome as far as I am concerned,your posts are generally pretty good.
gooney said:I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
It's a fair point you make.
You seem to take alot of interest in our magnificent club.... are you becoming a closet Blue??
BTWm you are welcome as far as I am concerned,your posts are generally pretty good.
SamTheGuru
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Re: Dzeko
There is a chance he will flop. But to start labelling him a flop after 2 months is a ridiculous.
gooney said:I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
There is a chance he will flop. But to start labelling him a flop after 2 months is a ridiculous.
FantasyIreland
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Re: Dzeko
Not to mention Chamakh and Bendtner,but i reckon you knew that....gooney said:I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
Re: Dzeko
Im not wumming, but im surprised with how poor Dzekos general play has been, i expected to have more ability on the ball than he has shown.
I wouldnt compare them to Dzeko though. neither is there to be starters and one came as a free(as Wenger loves a freebie) and Bendtner was signed for 250k. Players are gonna be judged on the money spend on them and a free transfer will never have the same expectation as a 27 million striker,FantasyIreland said:Not to mention Chamakh and Bendtner,but i reckon you knew that....gooney said:I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
Im not wumming, but im surprised with how poor Dzekos general play has been, i expected to have more ability on the ball than he has shown.
dothepoznan
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Re: Dzeko
I don't think Dzeko has been that bad. He certainly hasn't looked like a 20 million pound plus player but he has shown some signs that he has quality.
It took Silva some time to find his feet and it hasn't helped him coming into the team when we're not playing well. The team hasn't played well since the start of the new year and we can't blame this on Dzeko. We have still looked poor when he hasn't played!
Give him time and a run in the team when all the players are playing with confidence and he will come good!
I don't think Dzeko has been that bad. He certainly hasn't looked like a 20 million pound plus player but he has shown some signs that he has quality.
It took Silva some time to find his feet and it hasn't helped him coming into the team when we're not playing well. The team hasn't played well since the start of the new year and we can't blame this on Dzeko. We have still looked poor when he hasn't played!
Give him time and a run in the team when all the players are playing with confidence and he will come good!
Re: Dzeko
bollocks. players have to be judged on their 4 or 5 years contract cost.
you can sign for free a 10M per year wages player . over 5 years you'll spend 50M + tax and that may be a lot more expensive than buy a 30M player and then pay him 3M per year + tax wages.
gooney said:I wouldnt compare them to Dzeko though. neither is there to be starters and one came as a free(as Wenger loves a freebie) and Bendtner was signed for 250k. Players are gonna be judged on the money spend on them and a free transfer will never have the same expectation as a 27 million striker,FantasyIreland said:Not to mention Chamakh and Bendtner,but i reckon you knew that....
Im not wumming, but im surprised with how poor Dzekos general play has been, i expected to have more ability on the ball than he has shown.
bollocks. players have to be judged on their 4 or 5 years contract cost.
you can sign for free a 10M per year wages player . over 5 years you'll spend 50M + tax and that may be a lot more expensive than buy a 30M player and then pay him 3M per year + tax wages.
Re: Dzeko
cheers for that. I hope he does do well here because I really like him as a person and his attitude. Easy to see why he was captain at Wolfsburg and beloved in his home country.
Nurah said:Interview in the Bosnian press ahead of international match against Romania. Parts relevant to City:
-----
Edin Džeko, Bosnian football star for Dnevni Avaz: I'll need half a year to adapt to City
Our biggest footballing star... arrived in Sarajevo yesterday with a smile on his face.
Q: Edin, you seem happy.
Džeko: I'm doing well, I have no reason not to be. I missed Bosnia and the national team since I wasn't with the squad in the USA. I'm happy to see my friends from the team again.
Q: How is everything in City?
- Great. I'm still adjusting. I think I'll need maybe half a year to fully adapt.
Q: We all expected for you to continue at City where you left off at Wolfsburg and score plenty of goals, but obviously that's not so easily done.
Džeko: No, but I'm not worried. The important thing is that I play and that the club believes in me. The goals will come.
Q: We get the impression that you've moved to a difficult (team) environment, with a lot of star players who don't get along particularly well. How much is that hampering your adjustment?
Džeko: It was difficult at Wolfsburg too when I first came, but that's normal. You need a little time to gel with the team and establish good relations with your colleagues. You have to go step by step. In Wolfsburg I fought for and won my place in the squad, there's no reason for me not to do that here as well.
...
Q: Did it ever cross your mind that this transfer to City might not end well? Are you afraid of that?
Džeko: I'm not afraid of anything, for I know that I have the necessary quality. I know what I'm capable of. If everything goes as it should, I expect that starting this summer I'll begin to show the best that I have to offer and be the same player I was at Wolfsburg.
cheers for that. I hope he does do well here because I really like him as a person and his attitude. Easy to see why he was captain at Wolfsburg and beloved in his home country.
Matt Diablo
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Re: Dzeko
I'll just about tolerate off the odd clueless blue but not off you -do 1 boring twot, he'll be far better than any of the shit you have up front, (yeah apart from Van Pussie who's injured all the time) - he has shown plenty of ability on the floor, lets see next season and probably whats left of this one eh? so give it a break FFS
gooney said:I wouldnt compare them to Dzeko though. neither is there to be starters and one came as a free(as Wenger loves a freebie) and Bendtner was signed for 250k. Players are gonna be judged on the money spend on them and a free transfer will never have the same expectation as a 27 million striker,FantasyIreland said:Not to mention Chamakh and Bendtner,but i reckon you knew that....
Im not wumming, but im surprised with how poor Dzekos general play has been, i expected to have more ability on the ball than he has shown.
I'll just about tolerate off the odd clueless blue but not off you -do 1 boring twot, he'll be far better than any of the shit you have up front, (yeah apart from Van Pussie who's injured all the time) - he has shown plenty of ability on the floor, lets see next season and probably whats left of this one eh? so give it a break FFS
blueplan
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Re: Dzeko
Hey Gooney, still have time to reply to my previous query to you why the rest of the gunners didn't have a 'reply' when Sagna was DUMPED by Rooney. That was the turning point or defining moment if you stop to reflect rather than be concerned such as our City Club issues.
A lack of character or fortitude (cojones) among the young gunners?
To our City Players, a lesson to be learnt. The match is lost when your opponent takes liberty such as what that Rooney el COATTO did i.e. the gunners were physically and mentally boink!
Gooney, in the old days your invincibles will not take it lying down!
As for Dzeko, he is proven he just needs time to gel. Case in point see Richards' assist to Dzeko. Unfortunately we had Milner in the last match who doesn't have the pace or guile to overlap or the crossing ability given the numerous chances he had.
So Gooney you are just a WUM stirring some of us with your negative opinion about our star players. Hoping or wishing that they will fail with your prediction that 'a chance to flop'?
Critique your own team but provide positive encouragement if you are posting here. Better still provide us with better insight about gunners shortcomings or weakness.
I'm encouraging you be a good sport & a contributing guest. OK?
gooney said:I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
Hey Gooney, still have time to reply to my previous query to you why the rest of the gunners didn't have a 'reply' when Sagna was DUMPED by Rooney. That was the turning point or defining moment if you stop to reflect rather than be concerned such as our City Club issues.
A lack of character or fortitude (cojones) among the young gunners?
To our City Players, a lesson to be learnt. The match is lost when your opponent takes liberty such as what that Rooney el COATTO did i.e. the gunners were physically and mentally boink!
Gooney, in the old days your invincibles will not take it lying down!
As for Dzeko, he is proven he just needs time to gel. Case in point see Richards' assist to Dzeko. Unfortunately we had Milner in the last match who doesn't have the pace or guile to overlap or the crossing ability given the numerous chances he had.
So Gooney you are just a WUM stirring some of us with your negative opinion about our star players. Hoping or wishing that they will fail with your prediction that 'a chance to flop'?
Critique your own team but provide positive encouragement if you are posting here. Better still provide us with better insight about gunners shortcomings or weakness.
I'm encouraging you be a good sport & a contributing guest. OK?
Re: Dzeko
Positive encouragement? You make me sound like a coach for 10 year old kids. What I have said about Dzeko is no worse than what majority of members in this forum has already said, in fact most have said worse things about him. I said he lacked the pace and mobility for the PL, and he has similar problem Pizzaro and Crespo had when they were here. They didnt improve with time as their style simply didnt suit the league. I do fear Dzeko will have similar problems. The reason why Suarez and Hernandez look to adapt much better is they have that pace and mobility you need in the PL. I hope for your sake he comes good as I like City. But I just dont think he has what it takes to become a starter for a club like Man City
blueplan said:gooney said:I think there's a chance he will flop. We have seen other players like Shevshenko, Pizarro and Crespo flop in the PL and all of them were more proven than Dzeko when they come. Not saying he will flop, but the chance is there and its time some people acknowledge that
Hey Gooney, still have time to reply to my previous query to you why the rest of the gunners didn't have a 'reply' when Sagna was DUMPED by Rooney. That was the turning point or defining moment if you stop to reflect rather than be concerned such as our City Club issues.
A lack of character or fortitude (cojones) among the young gunners?
To our City Players, a lesson to be learnt. The match is lost when your opponent takes liberty such as what that Rooney el COATTO did i.e. the gunners were physically and mentally boink!
Gooney, in the old days your invincibles will not take it lying down!
As for Dzeko, he is proven he just needs time to gel. Case in point see Richards' assist to Dzeko. Unfortunately we had Milner in the last match who doesn't have the pace or guile to overlap or the crossing ability given the numerous chances he had.
So Gooney you are just a WUM stirring some of us with your negative opinion about our star players. Hoping or wishing that they will fail with your prediction that 'a chance to flop'?
Critique your own team but provide positive encouragement if you are posting here. Better still provide us with better insight about gunners shortcomings or weakness.
I'm encouraging you be a good sport & a contributing guest. OK?
Positive encouragement? You make me sound like a coach for 10 year old kids. What I have said about Dzeko is no worse than what majority of members in this forum has already said, in fact most have said worse things about him. I said he lacked the pace and mobility for the PL, and he has similar problem Pizzaro and Crespo had when they were here. They didnt improve with time as their style simply didnt suit the league. I do fear Dzeko will have similar problems. The reason why Suarez and Hernandez look to adapt much better is they have that pace and mobility you need in the PL. I hope for your sake he comes good as I like City. But I just dont think he has what it takes to become a starter for a club like Man City
Re: Dzeko
Majority slagging Dzeko? How many posts have you red in this topic? Really?
gooney said:What I have said about Dzeko is no worse than what majority of members in this forum has already said, in fact most have said worse things about him.
Majority slagging Dzeko? How many posts have you red in this topic? Really?
blueplan
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Re: Dzeko
Since when did we ask you to coach us? All we want is quid pro quo (positive contribution) if you don't understand simple English.
Oh yeah majority? Are you being specious? Dzeko has been with us only for the last 2/3 months. Weren't you slagging off our Silva et al not a while back?
It seems like you are a cantankerous curmudgeon old goon from the sound of it. If you have nothing good to say heed your mother's advice especially when you are a guest. However I will still stick up for you for your right to freedom of speech i.e. express freely when it comes to contributing fairly. Just don't speculate! LOL
Care to elaborate and share with us why there should be an appropriate response to Sagna being dumped by Rooney by your young gunners?
Just to guide you if you don't understand what I mean by positive contribution.
Don't evade my query. Be a MAN & we might made you one i.e. a City fan.
Lest you forget can I remind you what Mancini dictum is - 2 starters or WC player for every position providing us with Plans A, B or even C. Thats City's Blueprint or MasterPlan! Can the gunners, backing up van pursie with B52?
gooney said:blueplan said:Hey Gooney, still have time to reply to my previous query to you why the rest of the gunners didn't have a 'reply' when Sagna was DUMPED by Rooney. That was the turning point or defining moment if you stop to reflect rather than be concerned such as our City Club issues.
A lack of character or fortitude (cojones) among the young gunners?
To our City Players, a lesson to be learnt. The match is lost when your opponent takes liberty such as what that Rooney el COATTO did i.e. the gunners were physically and mentally boink!
Gooney, in the old days your invincibles will not take it lying down!
As for Dzeko, he is proven he just needs time to gel. Case in point see Richards' assist to Dzeko. Unfortunately we had Milner in the last match who doesn't have the pace or guile to overlap or the crossing ability given the numerous chances he had.
So Gooney you are just a WUM stirring some of us with your negative opinion about our star players. Hoping or wishing that they will fail with your prediction that 'a chance to flop'?
Critique your own team but provide positive encouragement if you are posting here. Better still provide us with better insight about gunners shortcomings or weakness.
I'm encouraging you be a good sport & a contributing guest. OK?
Positive encouragement? You make me sound like a coach for 10 year old kids. What I have said about Dzeko is no worse than what majority of members in this forum has already said, in fact most have said worse things about him. I said he lacked the pace and mobility for the PL, and he has similar problem Pizzaro and Crespo had when they were here. They didnt improve with time as their style simply didnt suit the league. I do fear Dzeko will have similar problems. The reason why Suarez and Hernandez look to adapt much better is they have that pace and mobility you need in the PL. I hope for your sake he comes good as I like City. But I just dont think he has what it takes to become a starter for a club like Man City
Since when did we ask you to coach us? All we want is quid pro quo (positive contribution) if you don't understand simple English.
Oh yeah majority? Are you being specious? Dzeko has been with us only for the last 2/3 months. Weren't you slagging off our Silva et al not a while back?
It seems like you are a cantankerous curmudgeon old goon from the sound of it. If you have nothing good to say heed your mother's advice especially when you are a guest. However I will still stick up for you for your right to freedom of speech i.e. express freely when it comes to contributing fairly. Just don't speculate! LOL
Care to elaborate and share with us why there should be an appropriate response to Sagna being dumped by Rooney by your young gunners?
Just to guide you if you don't understand what I mean by positive contribution.
Don't evade my query. Be a MAN & we might made you one i.e. a City fan.
Lest you forget can I remind you what Mancini dictum is - 2 starters or WC player for every position providing us with Plans A, B or even C. Thats City's Blueprint or MasterPlan! Can the gunners, backing up van pursie with B52?
Unknown_Genius
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Re: Dzeko
I like Dzeko but the formation and style of play does not get the best out of him, so I blame Mancini more than Dzeko.
I like Dzeko but the formation and style of play does not get the best out of him, so I blame Mancini more than Dzeko.