Dzeko VS Negredo

Dzeko is by far better when he plays his hardest anyone that disagrees is clueless. He is better in every sense if he works hard. Top goalscorer in the BPL for us last season and people on here still think he needs to sit on the bench, it's laughable. Joint top scorer in UEFA WCQs. Let him reach his full potential before you start benching him and you'll eat your words.
 
cenga said:
Dzeko is by far better when he plays his hardest anyone that disagrees is clueless. He is better in every sense if he works hard. Top goalscorer in the BPL for us last season and people on here still think he needs to sit on the bench, it's laughable. Joint top scorer in UEFA WCQs. Let him reach his full potential before you start benching him and you'll eat your words.


Just to get this out of the way are you Bosnian ( i dont care really but on this forum u need to pass some 'true fan purity test and all' and if you are then sorry what ever u say is null and void --_--.
 
Negredo was ghost today but whole game thread i was reading about Dzeko. People here are not fair at all.Edin 7,6 grade , Negredo 6,8. Only Narsi and Yaya had better grade then Edin . We have no problem with attack we have problem with defense because we can't hold on lead.
 
Zlatan said:
ColinLee said:
Zlatan said:
Yes he does and it is because Negredo gets almost the maximum support from everyone and is giving max. of his potential. ( he cant be much better than he is right now ) Dzeko is not giving max. of his potential ( for me ). HE would give his max. if he would have almost cemented place in the first 11. Than he wouldnt have to think injustices and would be concentrated just on football. Dzeko with high confidence is better player than he is showing now. I also have one big argument, but i am afraid if i tell it that some of you will gone crazy :) ?
"injustices", this is football not politics.

Is it just me or is 'Zlatan' not ringing quite true?
Can a mod or at least Ric compare IP addresses to other posters? Would there be multiple accounts on the same address by any chance?

I dont know what to say to this crazy though. I was reading this forum for about two years. I have my opinion which is based on many facts. I started posting 2,3 days ago because i could not stand the injustice. ( which is not based by hate like many bosnians is writeing here. I think it as based on not knowing the facts. That is why I came to try to explain my version and that is all ). I also think that start of this seasson is crucial in dzekos status in man. city.I want manchester city to have a sucess, but i also want Dzeko not the waist his career slightly more. ( It is not just my oppinion many english posters with around 10000 posts or more are saying that Dzeko is to good do be a sub and he needs to found a team which will be build around him. - in Dzekos tread ). He really is wasting his career. OR it seems that way. Maybe i am wrong and Pelle will found a way to have enough quality games to Dzeko and Negredo, I really would like that to be that way. Because to me CITY is really big club and it is big thing to be part of it. if you dare to read in dzeko tread page 64 i wrote which club wanted him 2,5 years ago, 1,5 years ago and even 6 months ago. HE was brought here as a proven player not as a sub. No i am wrong he wasnt proven player, he was the star. All the europs best teams wanted him, which is more than a proven player. I won repeat myself but i said in Dzeko tread what kind of player he was and still can be and i also told you that to many competition with the proven strikers is not good. I elaborate my oppinion really detailed. If you dare to read it in Dzeko tread everything will tell you by itself.
multiple accounts :) :) OMG ( and what do you gain by that I can tell in this one all i want and after few days here am growing tired of it to tell you the true. So i dont think i will write here much longer.
And because you have provoked me i will tell you something which i did not want to because it is not maybe correct.
DZEKO, was wanted by whole of Europe 2 years ago, 1 Year ago Bayern, BVB,MILAN, INTER Half year ago BVB, NAPOLI, TOTTENHAM, ATLETICO MADRID, ..
JOVETIC was wanted this year by JUVENTUS, CHELSEA , ARSENAL and CITY
NEGREDO was wanted this year by ONLY CITY. ( many your posters confirmed that before city signed him in transfers tread on this forum ).
Does that argument tell you something ?

I like Dzeko but no that argument doesn't make any sense.
 
for me yesterday Dzeko got in Negredo's way at times and vise versa, by this I mean that some balls came in the box which they both went for and as s result both fluffed (though edin was more culpable for this) seemed to be a lack of communication at times.
 
FantasyIreland said:
As long as the forum is plagued by delusional,blinkered Bosnians threads such as this are comical.


The slating Dzeko gets from blinkered, delusional so called City fans is comical really.
 
bluealf said:
FantasyIreland said:
As long as the forum is plagued by delusional,blinkered Bosnians threads such as this are comical.


The slating Dzeko gets from blinkered, delusional so called City fans is comical really.
I agree with both of you but honestly IMO there should be an option to vote for a ban of any forum member. Once that member gets enough votes, straight red card.
 
I for one have finally lost my patience with Dzeko, yes he's there every game with chances but for Christs sake why does he need 6 chances to score just one!
No doubt Zlatan is going to make some oblique reference to his mentality because of his country of origin without actually explaining what he means.
If he's saying he's weak mentally then we would be in agreement.
Come January get rid and buy Benteke or if he's fit enough(probably unlikely) give Guidetti a chance.
 
ColinLee said:
I for one have finally lost my patience with Dzeko, yes he's there every game with chances but for Christs sake why does he need 6 chances to score just one!
No doubt Zlatan is going to make some oblique reference to his mentality because of his country of origin without actually explaining what he means.
If he's saying he's weak mentally then we would be in agreement.
Come January get rid and buy Benteke or if he's fit enough(probably unlikely) give Guidetti a chance.

His is not weak mentally. The core of Balkan mentality is that you give all ( 110 % ) or u dont give a fuck. There is rarely a middle way sadly. This Can be a PLUS if you are first choice , than those players give everything they got and they play great. Negative thing is if they feel they unjustly dont get what they should because of their quality they tend to sulk and cant give their all. There basicly isnt a middle way. The positive thing is if they are given a chance they are overconffident. They think they are the best in the world and are almost unstopible by opposite side. My opinion is that Dzeko ( because of his star status in germany and the amount of clubs which were looking for him and still are ) thinks he is better then a sub, which i think he even said in some interwiews , that he is no supersub and never was and never will be.
Dzekos Coach in Wolfsburg was a TYRANT. The worst coach in Germany. Felix Magath the real old school coach. He was more a military sergeant then a coach. He did every bed things possible to his players beside fisical attack. And how Dzeko did , he did GREAT. This tough regime motivated him. SO he is not week mentally. He only needs to feel important not undervalued and he will be unstoppable.
 
The donkey was hopeless today even by his standards, even the goal came off his shoulder.
We would not be criticising our hapless defence now if he had put away a quarter of the chances as we would have been out of sight.
If there is the slightest doubt about his abject play just look at the free kick from Milner on the edge of the box.
I can understand people not being overjoyed at Negredo, but there is only one answer sadly.
 
Aytoun said:
The donkey was hopeless today even by his standards, even the goal came off his shoulder.
We would not be criticising our hapless defence now if he had put away a quarter of the chances as we would have been out of sight.
If there is the slightest doubt about his abject play just look at the free kick from Milner on the edge of the box.
I can understand people not being overjoyed at Negredo, but there is only one answer sadly.

Hehe, and What did Negredo in Villa game. They both have given a fair chance and let the better man win. Mr. Pelle had given HIM an 20 min extra than Dzeko + Navas and he didint manage to score. ( he was the lone striker )
Dzeko that game was 7/10
Negredo 5.5-6/10 ( he didint even have an assist for the whole the game, he did nothing beside running )
 
Aytoun said:
The donkey was hopeless today even by his standards, even the goal came off his shoulder.
We would not be criticising our hapless defence now if he had put away a quarter of the chances as we would have been out of sight.
If there is the slightest doubt about his abject play just look at the free kick from Milner on the edge of the box.
I can understand people not being overjoyed at Negredo, but there is only one answer sadly.

Plz stop.
The goal was not by the shoulder. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov8vpVGW9h4[/youtube]
And last night non of them played well against Villa.
Both are good players and i think we have enough matches to both of them.
But never together. They too similar to each other.
And btw dont call our player a donkey.
 
Zlatan said:
Aytoun said:
The donkey was hopeless today even by his standards, even the goal came off his shoulder.
We would not be criticising our hapless defence now if he had put away a quarter of the chances as we would have been out of sight.
If there is the slightest doubt about his abject play just look at the free kick from Milner on the edge of the box.
I can understand people not being overjoyed at Negredo, but there is only one answer sadly.

Hehe, and What did Negredo in Villa game. They both have given a fair chance and let the better man win. Mr. Pelle had given HIM an 20 min extra than Dzeko + Navas and he didint manage to score. ( he was the lone striker )
Dzeko that game was 7/10
Negredo 5.5-6/10 ( he didint even have an assist for the whole the game, he did nothing beside running )

And do you think your ratings matter? cause they most certaintly do not coming from a biased bosnian
 
They both have their strengths, Dzeko is a game changer when he comes off the bench and adds an extra dynamic, however rotation is the key to a long and successful campaign.
 
Proelia said:
Zlatan said:
Aytoun said:
The donkey was hopeless today even by his standards, even the goal came off his shoulder.
We would not be criticising our hapless defence now if he had put away a quarter of the chances as we would have been out of sight.
If there is the slightest doubt about his abject play just look at the free kick from Milner on the edge of the box.
I can understand people not being overjoyed at Negredo, but there is only one answer sadly.

Hehe, and What did Negredo in Villa game. They both have given a fair chance and let the better man win. Mr. Pelle had given HIM an 20 min extra than Dzeko + Navas and he didint manage to score. ( he was the lone striker )
Dzeko that game was 7/10
Negredo 5.5-6/10 ( he didint even have an assist for the whole the game, he did nothing beside running )

And do you think your ratings matter? cause they most certaintly do not coming from a biased bosnian

And how would you rate those 2, i would really like to see ?

.... and i rated Dzeko 7/10 just because he maneged to score otherwise i would be given him the same as Negredo5.5-6/10. Because he didint also do much more.
 
Zlatan said:
Proelia said:
Zlatan said:
Hehe, and What did Negredo in Villa game. They both have given a fair chance and let the better man win. Mr. Pelle had given HIM an 20 min extra than Dzeko + Navas and he didint manage to score. ( he was the lone striker )
Dzeko that game was 7/10
Negredo 5.5-6/10 ( he didint even have an assist for the whole the game, he did nothing beside running )

And do you think your ratings matter? cause they most certaintly do not coming from a biased bosnian

And how would you rate those 2, i would really like to see ?

.... and i rated Dzeko 7/10 just because he maneged to score otherwise i would be given him the same as Negredo5.5-6/10. Because he didint also do much more.

Both a 6

Negredos over all play better like always but Dzeko got a goal even if he knew fuk all about it
 

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