Lordeffingham
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I would genuinely appreciate it, if any fair minded or decent individuals, who may take the time to read the following, to if understanding of my feelings, pass on their views to the Club.
I for one, feel Manchester City Football Club's stance with regard to e-cigarettes is despicable, unwarranted and totally unfair. I feel that as a member of the Club, that they should take a stand and be counted, rather than just going along with the crowd on a subject they appear to have no understanding of, or have maybe been poorly advised about, but which I as a season ticket holder and an e-cigarette user, feel very strongly about.
I appreciate like probably many other like minded individuals, that in todays very sad and antisocial World, many are more concerned about; Jeremy Kyle, the X Factor, Big Brother, I'm a Celebrity and many, many more mind numbing productions directed at us on an almost daily basis, and that far too many people, just don't seem to give a damn about some of the real issues which seem to demonstrate an example of todays typical banning culture, where often it just appears simpler to just take the easy option, and regardless as to whether as a result some individuals civil liberties are affected.
I fully expect that this post will either largely fall on some pretty deaf ears or somehow be ridiculed and twisted, but none the less am very passionate about this subject and do want to pass on my views which have been formed after a great deal of thought and consideration.
Life in todays World of misinformation, combined with an often poor understanding of many of the key factors in relation to this subject, seem to cause many men and women who seemingly used to be able to think and make judgements for themselves, to now just accept whatever information the general media push at them, without any question.
Many people just appear to form their own, often very outspoken opinions without any genuine understanding of the matter they apparently feel so strongly about, and are also seemingly happy to allow their independent thought process to be manipulated and clouded by others with some vested interest. It appears that without simple logic or reason, some people will happily just jump on the nearest bandwagon, just so long as it keeps them amongst the majority and allows them to continue to look down on or pour scorn on, along with the rest of the crowd.
Smoking without question is bad for you, nobody doubts or questions it, it's bad for the smokers themselves, for their families, their relatives, and members of the public who surround and associate with them, and even for the Country's economy due to the vast sums of money required to treat those, as their habit gradually degenerates and attacks their wellbeing. I should know I've smoked heavily for over 30 years, and my dad died from smoking related cancer just over four years ago.
Around ten years ago, a wonderful invention was made in China, and the e- cigarette was conceived. It has since been developed and improved from the early design stage and has now become an incredible and very successful and efficient method of delivering Nicotine to those unfortunate enough to have become addicted it.
Nicotine itself has absolutely no harmful effects at all (unless you class the fact Nicotine, like Alcohol, Tea and Coffee can all cause some of its users to become dependant on it), and has never been found to have been found or proven to have been a contributory factor in any serious illness or disease.
The vapour created by the process involved in e-cigarettes, which is primarily used to carry the Nicotine to the users bloodstream, is completely harmless and is made up of the following ingredients:
1) Glycerine 80% - 85%, either Vegetable (VG) or man made propylene (PG), which is the standard medical delivery system World wide for all orally taken medicines, including most cough medicines and also Calpol which is considered safe enough for infants.
2) Food industry flavourings 15% - 20%, which are used in almost all of our daily food, other than in some natural or Organic products.
The Glycerine contains within it a suspension of Nicotine, with a strength dependant on any single individuals requirement, although even in the stronger doses contains nothing like that contained in the raw tobacco it is designed to replace, and is a very simple to manage formula.
Some liquids may also contain some food industry colourings or food industry sweeteners, but these are not as common, although just as regulated and safe.
The process involved in the production of the vapour used to carry the Nicotine to the lungs of the e-cigarette user, is a miniaturised, but principally identical one to that used in smoke machines, which I'm sure everybody has seen on TV shows, at parties or by DJ's at disco type events, and where coincidentally it seems everybody is quite happy to watch their children and toddlers running around and inhaling the mist produced, without question, and after all why should they?
The process of the combustion of tobacco by setting light to it, 'smoking', is what has caused the death and destruction for well over a Century, with thousands of toxins and noxious gasses produced many which are carcinogenic and contain complex chemicals and poisons, effecting not only the smoker, but also the others around them in a second hand capacity.
I completely understand why so many people have a hatred of smokers and of cigarettes, but surely it cannot be right to condemn those choosing a completely safe and unobtrusive alternative which will save millions and millions of lives, without at least having some basic understanding of what this fairly new alternative is and is all about?
One of the biggest attractions to smokers considering this as a safe and very viable alternative, is that there is absolutely no reason for them to continue to be discriminated against in any way, whilst still being able to continue sustain their addictive habit with no threat or danger whatsoever to either themselves or others in their vicinity. It also allows them to continue to enjoy their personal use of Nicotine, and with this alternative, there should be absolutely no reason for them to be prevented from sustaining a habit, which in many cases once formed a massive part of their social interaction in Public Houses and other venues.
Smoking tobacco was not at one time condemned or restricted at all, but has since rightly been banned from use in any public areas, where others would have had no real choice but to breathe in the very toxic and dangerous pollutants produced by the process.
Banning e-cigarettes by proxy is I feel, an absolute travesty, it is wrong and will have an effect of prolonging many tobacco users habits, and preventing them from moving to this new and absolutely safe alternative.
I know that many of those who have been bothered enough to read this thus far lengthy post, will possibly be those vehemently against not only smoking, but smokers themselves, and like many others today, are a part of a World we share, and where many almost feel some compulsion or need to vent their frustrations in life in general against somebody, somewhere.
Many of the targets for those who may well feel such a need to challenge, attack or condemn others, have been greatly reduced over the past three decades due to legislation preventing any kind of hatred, prejudice or discrimination, and smokers may well now be one of the only remaining legitimate targets, and a group on whom there is still apparently a completely 'open season', but I implore you, please don't just use the visual similarities between 'smoking' and 'vaping' to cement your opinion, the two are as different as chalk and cheese.
If I am right, as some of you may conclude from my post, and 'Vaping' is as safe as I make out, then why you might ask, is there no conformation of this by Government, why does the medical industry or National Health Service not appear to agree or confirm any of what I am saying, and why has no official party confirmed what I have described above?
The answer is simple, the tobacco industry is one of the richest businesses on the planet, they have massive investments and a wealth akin to the Oil Industry, and they don't want to lose their grip of the Trillions of Pounds or Dollars they have amassed in their coffers. They are ultimately fighting a losing battle and eventually Tobacco cigarettes will not exist, but for the time being, e-cigarettes are being stunted and stalled and the process is being blocked at every turn.
If you want proof of just how safe e-cigarettes are, simply ask yourself one very straight forward question; if after being invented and in mainstream use for over ten years, there was anything whatsoever which could be found, proved or associated with their use and its association to any health threat either directly or indirectly, would they the tobacco industry with their incredible wealth, not have already found it, and along with some very eminent professor have demonstrated and widely advertised it for all to see?
The answer is pretty obvious, they haven't, because there is nothing unsafe or dangerous about e-cigarettes, and it is extremely unlikely that anything harmful or dangerous will ever be found.
The tobacco industry have been striving to find anything at all, which they might use in some way cast doubt or to discredit e-cigarettes, without any success for at least the past decade, without a single example.
Manchester City Football Club, please do the right thing.
I for one, feel Manchester City Football Club's stance with regard to e-cigarettes is despicable, unwarranted and totally unfair. I feel that as a member of the Club, that they should take a stand and be counted, rather than just going along with the crowd on a subject they appear to have no understanding of, or have maybe been poorly advised about, but which I as a season ticket holder and an e-cigarette user, feel very strongly about.
I appreciate like probably many other like minded individuals, that in todays very sad and antisocial World, many are more concerned about; Jeremy Kyle, the X Factor, Big Brother, I'm a Celebrity and many, many more mind numbing productions directed at us on an almost daily basis, and that far too many people, just don't seem to give a damn about some of the real issues which seem to demonstrate an example of todays typical banning culture, where often it just appears simpler to just take the easy option, and regardless as to whether as a result some individuals civil liberties are affected.
I fully expect that this post will either largely fall on some pretty deaf ears or somehow be ridiculed and twisted, but none the less am very passionate about this subject and do want to pass on my views which have been formed after a great deal of thought and consideration.
Life in todays World of misinformation, combined with an often poor understanding of many of the key factors in relation to this subject, seem to cause many men and women who seemingly used to be able to think and make judgements for themselves, to now just accept whatever information the general media push at them, without any question.
Many people just appear to form their own, often very outspoken opinions without any genuine understanding of the matter they apparently feel so strongly about, and are also seemingly happy to allow their independent thought process to be manipulated and clouded by others with some vested interest. It appears that without simple logic or reason, some people will happily just jump on the nearest bandwagon, just so long as it keeps them amongst the majority and allows them to continue to look down on or pour scorn on, along with the rest of the crowd.
Smoking without question is bad for you, nobody doubts or questions it, it's bad for the smokers themselves, for their families, their relatives, and members of the public who surround and associate with them, and even for the Country's economy due to the vast sums of money required to treat those, as their habit gradually degenerates and attacks their wellbeing. I should know I've smoked heavily for over 30 years, and my dad died from smoking related cancer just over four years ago.
Around ten years ago, a wonderful invention was made in China, and the e- cigarette was conceived. It has since been developed and improved from the early design stage and has now become an incredible and very successful and efficient method of delivering Nicotine to those unfortunate enough to have become addicted it.
Nicotine itself has absolutely no harmful effects at all (unless you class the fact Nicotine, like Alcohol, Tea and Coffee can all cause some of its users to become dependant on it), and has never been found to have been found or proven to have been a contributory factor in any serious illness or disease.
The vapour created by the process involved in e-cigarettes, which is primarily used to carry the Nicotine to the users bloodstream, is completely harmless and is made up of the following ingredients:
1) Glycerine 80% - 85%, either Vegetable (VG) or man made propylene (PG), which is the standard medical delivery system World wide for all orally taken medicines, including most cough medicines and also Calpol which is considered safe enough for infants.
2) Food industry flavourings 15% - 20%, which are used in almost all of our daily food, other than in some natural or Organic products.
The Glycerine contains within it a suspension of Nicotine, with a strength dependant on any single individuals requirement, although even in the stronger doses contains nothing like that contained in the raw tobacco it is designed to replace, and is a very simple to manage formula.
Some liquids may also contain some food industry colourings or food industry sweeteners, but these are not as common, although just as regulated and safe.
The process involved in the production of the vapour used to carry the Nicotine to the lungs of the e-cigarette user, is a miniaturised, but principally identical one to that used in smoke machines, which I'm sure everybody has seen on TV shows, at parties or by DJ's at disco type events, and where coincidentally it seems everybody is quite happy to watch their children and toddlers running around and inhaling the mist produced, without question, and after all why should they?
The process of the combustion of tobacco by setting light to it, 'smoking', is what has caused the death and destruction for well over a Century, with thousands of toxins and noxious gasses produced many which are carcinogenic and contain complex chemicals and poisons, effecting not only the smoker, but also the others around them in a second hand capacity.
I completely understand why so many people have a hatred of smokers and of cigarettes, but surely it cannot be right to condemn those choosing a completely safe and unobtrusive alternative which will save millions and millions of lives, without at least having some basic understanding of what this fairly new alternative is and is all about?
One of the biggest attractions to smokers considering this as a safe and very viable alternative, is that there is absolutely no reason for them to continue to be discriminated against in any way, whilst still being able to continue sustain their addictive habit with no threat or danger whatsoever to either themselves or others in their vicinity. It also allows them to continue to enjoy their personal use of Nicotine, and with this alternative, there should be absolutely no reason for them to be prevented from sustaining a habit, which in many cases once formed a massive part of their social interaction in Public Houses and other venues.
Smoking tobacco was not at one time condemned or restricted at all, but has since rightly been banned from use in any public areas, where others would have had no real choice but to breathe in the very toxic and dangerous pollutants produced by the process.
Banning e-cigarettes by proxy is I feel, an absolute travesty, it is wrong and will have an effect of prolonging many tobacco users habits, and preventing them from moving to this new and absolutely safe alternative.
I know that many of those who have been bothered enough to read this thus far lengthy post, will possibly be those vehemently against not only smoking, but smokers themselves, and like many others today, are a part of a World we share, and where many almost feel some compulsion or need to vent their frustrations in life in general against somebody, somewhere.
Many of the targets for those who may well feel such a need to challenge, attack or condemn others, have been greatly reduced over the past three decades due to legislation preventing any kind of hatred, prejudice or discrimination, and smokers may well now be one of the only remaining legitimate targets, and a group on whom there is still apparently a completely 'open season', but I implore you, please don't just use the visual similarities between 'smoking' and 'vaping' to cement your opinion, the two are as different as chalk and cheese.
If I am right, as some of you may conclude from my post, and 'Vaping' is as safe as I make out, then why you might ask, is there no conformation of this by Government, why does the medical industry or National Health Service not appear to agree or confirm any of what I am saying, and why has no official party confirmed what I have described above?
The answer is simple, the tobacco industry is one of the richest businesses on the planet, they have massive investments and a wealth akin to the Oil Industry, and they don't want to lose their grip of the Trillions of Pounds or Dollars they have amassed in their coffers. They are ultimately fighting a losing battle and eventually Tobacco cigarettes will not exist, but for the time being, e-cigarettes are being stunted and stalled and the process is being blocked at every turn.
If you want proof of just how safe e-cigarettes are, simply ask yourself one very straight forward question; if after being invented and in mainstream use for over ten years, there was anything whatsoever which could be found, proved or associated with their use and its association to any health threat either directly or indirectly, would they the tobacco industry with their incredible wealth, not have already found it, and along with some very eminent professor have demonstrated and widely advertised it for all to see?
The answer is pretty obvious, they haven't, because there is nothing unsafe or dangerous about e-cigarettes, and it is extremely unlikely that anything harmful or dangerous will ever be found.
The tobacco industry have been striving to find anything at all, which they might use in some way cast doubt or to discredit e-cigarettes, without any success for at least the past decade, without a single example.
Manchester City Football Club, please do the right thing.