Ebola Outbreak

[scall11]

In 1997 Tom Clancy wrote a book called Executive Orders, part of the Jack Ryan series of books.
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In the book, there were three general storylines:
- A plane crashes into the Capital building and wipes out the government
- An Islamic state is formed
- Terrorists release Ebola into the USA causing the country to grind to a halt

I remember reading it and thinking it was a fantastic work of fiction. Then 9/11 happened, and I remember saying it was just like the Tom Clancy book. Then the Islamic State was formed and I remembered it from the book.

When I heard first of the outbreak of Ebola, I again thought of the book and hoped that it would fizzle out and never spread across borders because it could be unstoppable. Just reading what it does to you scares the shit out of you. In the book, a nurse catches it because the patient sneezes, and a little drop of blood lands on her hands and she wipes her tired eyes with the back of her hand, the blood makes contact and she dies.
(the above bits are in the first few pages of the book, so I'm not spoiling anything, but:

Spoiler

In the end, the only way to quaratine it is to declare martial law and bring in travel restrictions.

Tom Clancy had a lot of good connections, and he will have spoken to people who have planned for such things to happen. I just hope they've put some thought into the response to it.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I read she touched her face with the gloves she was wearing,sky news i think it was

Not telling her GP his her own fault(if that's the case), it's not a reflection on a countries ability to contain, cope and treat those effected

Who said it was?

 

[Blue Hefner]

Not telling her GP his her own fault(if that's the case), it's not a reflection on a countries ability to contain, cope and treat those effected

Who said it was?

Nobody. I'm saying that an isolated case is nothing to worry about as far as the rest of the population is concerned

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Not telling her GP his her own fault(if that's the case), it's not a reflection on a countries ability to contain, cope and treat those effected

Who said it was?

Nobody. I'm saying that an isolated case is nothing to worry about as far as the rest of the population is concerned

You appear to be overly concerned to me.

 

[scall11]

Not telling her GP his her own fault(if that's the case), it's not a reflection on a countries ability to contain, cope and treat those effected

Who said it was?

Nobody. I'm saying that an isolated case is nothing to worry about as far as the rest of the population is concerned

Who said it's isolated? Doesn't it take about a week for the symptoms to manifest themself? So the nurse was covered in PPE, for some reason managed to wipe her face with her hand that had fluids on then she went home. For a few days she went about her normal life as the disease took hold. Think about it, how often do you spread your 'germs' each day? Bodily fluids are left on tootbrushes then put back in the holder next to other toothbrushes. You might sneeze and a tiny microscopic bit of fluid lands on another person.

She did this sort of stuff for a few days before she started to show symptoms. So people she came in contact might have got it. But who did she have contact with? Who knows? In the past week, how many people do you think might have been in contact with your body fluids?

I've been at work, I've been to the gym, I've had people viewing my house as part of its sale, I've rubbed my eyes, then handled money to pay for stuff. I've drunk out of pint glasses in the pub that the staff have then handled etc etc

There's a reason why the medical staff are covering everything in chlorine and disinfectant, because everything a patient touches could be classes as highly toxic. There's a reason for that, it's highly toxic and easily transmitted.

But in the pre-diagnosed world, there could be people speading it around right now, not know about it until the weekend when they start to feel in, but then they've already been contacted with too many people.

 

[BlueBearBoots]

Lady in Australia now being tested for it

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Who said it was?

Nobody. I'm saying that an isolated case is nothing to worry about as far as the rest of the population is concerned

Who said it's isolated? Doesn't it take about a week for the symptoms to manifest themself? So the nurse was covered in PPE, for some reason managed to wipe her face with her hand that had fluids on then she went home. For a few days she went about her normal life as the disease took hold. Think about it, how often do you spread your 'germs' each day? Bodily fluids are left on tootbrushes then put back in the holder next to other toothbrushes. You might sneeze and a tiny microscopic bit of fluid lands on another person.

She did this sort of stuff for a few days before she started to show symptoms. So people she came in contact might have got it. But who did she have contact with? Who knows? In the past week, how many people do you think might have been in contact with your body fluids?

I've been at work, I've been to the gym, I've had people viewing my house as part of its sale, I've rubbed my eyes, then handled money to pay for stuff. I've drunk out of pint glasses in the pub that the staff have then handled etc etc

There's a reason why the medical staff are covering everything in chlorine and disinfectant, because everything a patient touches could be classes as highly toxic. There's a reason for that, it's highly toxic and easily transmitted.

But in the pre-diagnosed world, there could be people speading it around right now, not know about it until the weekend when they start to feel in, but then they've already been contacted with too many people.

Think there is a 3 week incubation period. Assuming that one is contagious during the incubation period then if you think about the number of people who could be infected starting from one person over 3 weeks, it is truly mind boggling.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Nobody. I'm saying that an isolated case is nothing to worry about as far as the rest of the population is concerned

Who said it's isolated? Doesn't it take about a week for the symptoms to manifest themself? So the nurse was covered in PPE, for some reason managed to wipe her face with her hand that had fluids on then she went home. For a few days she went about her normal life as the disease took hold. Think about it, how often do you spread your 'germs' each day? Bodily fluids are left on tootbrushes then put back in the holder next to other toothbrushes. You might sneeze and a tiny microscopic bit of fluid lands on another person.

She did this sort of stuff for a few days before she started to show symptoms. So people she came in contact might have got it. But who did she have contact with? Who knows? In the past week, how many people do you think might have been in contact with your body fluids?

I've been at work, I've been to the gym, I've had people viewing my house as part of its sale, I've rubbed my eyes, then handled money to pay for stuff. I've drunk out of pint glasses in the pub that the staff have then handled etc etc

There's a reason why the medical staff are covering everything in chlorine and disinfectant, because everything a patient touches could be classes as highly toxic. There's a reason for that, it's highly toxic and easily transmitted.

But in the pre-diagnosed world, there could be people speading it around right now, not know about it until the weekend when they start to feel in, but then they've already been contacted with too many people.

Think there is a 3 week incubation period. Assuming that one is contagious during the incubation period then if you think about the number of people who could be infected starting from one person over 3 weeks, it is truly mind boggling.

Like I said earlier, according to that I've heard/read, its only contagious when I person has sympoms so a person who is vomiing, bleeding etc is unlikely to be walking around spreading it

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Who said it's isolated? Doesn't it take about a week for the symptoms to manifest themself? So the nurse was covered in PPE, for some reason managed to wipe her face with her hand that had fluids on then she went home. For a few days she went about her normal life as the disease took hold. Think about it, how often do you spread your 'germs' each day? Bodily fluids are left on tootbrushes then put back in the holder next to other toothbrushes. You might sneeze and a tiny microscopic bit of fluid lands on another person.

She did this sort of stuff for a few days before she started to show symptoms. So people she came in contact might have got it. But who did she have contact with? Who knows? In the past week, how many people do you think might have been in contact with your body fluids?

I've been at work, I've been to the gym, I've had people viewing my house as part of its sale, I've rubbed my eyes, then handled money to pay for stuff. I've drunk out of pint glasses in the pub that the staff have then handled etc etc

There's a reason why the medical staff are covering everything in chlorine and disinfectant, because everything a patient touches could be classes as highly toxic. There's a reason for that, it's highly toxic and easily transmitted.

But in the pre-diagnosed world, there could be people speading it around right now, not know about it until the weekend when they start to feel in, but then they've already been contacted with too many people.

Think there is a 3 week incubation period. Assuming that one is contagious during the incubation period then if you think about the number of people who could be infected starting from one person over 3 weeks, it is truly mind boggling.

Like I said earlier, according to that I've heard/read, its only contagious when I person has sympoms so a person who is vomiing, bleeding etc is unlikely to be walking around spreading it

That will make a huge difference. I wonder at what point they become contagious, is it when they are bleeding and vomiting or is it as soon as they get the raised temperature which I assume is an early symptom? "When a person has symptoms" is quite vague in that sense. Also, how quickly does the illness progress? I suppose that will dictate how long you can wander about coughing in people's faces before you aren't physically capable of mingling in society.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

Caught it treating that old fucking priest that they flew back to Spain. They said there was little or no risk flying infected people in from Africa, well what a surprise they were talking bollocks.

Why do you refer to the priest like that? That's very dismissive.

Broadly speaking, I have little or no respect for those who choose to perpetuate organised religion.

I'm not religious but that right there is a disgusting vile comment about a elderly man who died a most awful death trying to bring comfort to people when it he didn't have to risk himself.
Sometimes reading shite like this makes me think that if Ebola or whatever wipes us all out is it really any loss when we have a world of people that think like this