Eden Hazard (continued)

[Marvin]

This transfer is so much like the Nasri deal it's untrue. All the british and french press had him nailed on for the Rags then bang he's having his medical with us and signs on the dotted line. We are the club that have courted him the most, we've invited him to the derby, we've shown him around the place and took him to view the property market around Manchester. Bobby has flown back from his holidays to get involved personally after already telling Hazard his plans for him and the club. We've done everything possible to show him the City way. Not only do we have some of the best players in the world on show, we also have the Title and Vincent Kompany who will all be contributing factors.

Instead of flapping we should sit back and let nature take its course, if he doesn't sign then he'll just have to watch in awe as we retain the title next season

We're the Champions with the best squad with or without hazard. Flapping doesn't come into it. We can afford to sit back and put our feet up watching the rest scramble around wondering what we are going to do. But the quality of our playing squad must put a few doubts into prospective targets minds, and when we heard from hazard that playing time is a big factor for him that suggests to me that Utd are big favourites to sign him. Probably why nearly all the whispers and French reports etc say Utd will sign him. they are just putting 2 and 2 together, rather than any inside knowledge.<br /><br />-- Sat May 26, 2012 10:12 am --<br /><br />

Not if they sign Kagawa. They are looking for quality but at a low cost, Kagawa is the cheaper option.

Teams can play with two creative midfielders. We played with Nasri, Silva and Tevez when the season ended. If City try and sign a midfielder, the player is going to look at the team and wonder where he is going to play. That's not arrogance, that's a fact.

If Utd signed Kagawa, they could still accomodate Hazard

I think Mancini could be looking at the same kind of line-up for next season. With Hazard replacing TEVEZ.

I still think we will sell Tevez. Only reason i can see Tevez staying is that no1 is prepared to pay enough.

If Tevez and mancini have patched their relationship up, then we'd be mad to sell Tevez. Ideal foil for Aguero and son versatile

 

[champi19ns]

If his comment about wanting the no 10 shirt is true then who is leaving or moving shirt number

City = Dzeko
utd = Rooney
Chelsea = Mata
Arsenal = Rvp

-- Sat May 26, 2012 9:42 am --

If his comment about wanting the no 10 shirt is true then who is leaving or moving shirt number

City = Dzeko
utd = Rooney
Chelsea = Mata
Arsenal = Rvp

Only Dzeko, maybe Mata seem like players who would switch numbers. Dzeko should be our number 9 anyway.

He's not looking to get the number 10 shirt ffs. he wants the role of a true number 10. in other words an attacking midfield or second striker. I really doubt the lad is that fickle minded to go to a club who has a vacant number 10. if that is the case he can f*ck off to derby county then. I hear their number 10 jersey is free next season.

 

[samharris]

Has he signed yet?


Ignore me I'm pissed

Corky said the rags have confirmed it

wont be long til the HAZARD shirts go on sale then. ;)

 

[dctid]

If his comment about wanting the no 10 shirt is true then who is leaving or moving shirt number

City = Dzeko
utd = Rooney
Chelsea = Mata
Arsenal = Rvp

-- Sat May 26, 2012 9:42 am --

If his comment about wanting the no 10 shirt is true then who is leaving or moving shirt number

City = Dzeko
utd = Rooney
Chelsea = Mata
Arsenal = Rvp

Only Dzeko, maybe Mata seem like players who would switch numbers. Dzeko should be our number 9 anyway.

Its not about switching a number, be stunned if City or the other clubs accomodated this and put peoples nose out - would be a bad bad way to start a new career at a new club and cause resentment - if it was Messi then i doubt there would be much of an issue but its a 21 year old kid who as of yet is unproven in any of the top leagues.

He is referring to the number 10 position i suspect rather than a specific number if indeed he wants a number 10 tell him where to go.

 

[california blue]

apparently Corky has schweinsteiger on speed dial too

 

[EalingBlue2]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

 

[SWP's back]

If his comment about wanting the no 10 shirt is true then who is leaving or moving shirt number

City = Dzeko
utd = Rooney
Chelsea = Mata
Arsenal = Rvp

-- Sat May 26, 2012 9:42 am --

If his comment about wanting the no 10 shirt is true then who is leaving or moving shirt number

City = Dzeko
utd = Rooney
Chelsea = Mata
Arsenal = Rvp

Only Dzeko, maybe Mata seem like players who would switch numbers. Dzeko should be our number 9 anyway.

Surely you are all reading the "No 10" too literally. I read it as he wants to play the "No 10" position. I don't think he's too arsed what number he actually wears.

 

[dctid]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

 

[SWP's back]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?

 

[Neville Kneville]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?

I don't think Vidic will ever be the same player again. Same as with Ferdinand.

Hazard and Kagawa would potentially give them a great attack though, IF they gelled together, which is not guaranteed at all. It's all a big gamble & it's us who are forcing them to think about it.

Great isn't it ?

 

[dctid]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?

You do understand however that if you have an asset you can borrow against that asset a bit like a mortgage its not a difficult concept to understand. They have the money to buy Hazard it would appear that they have agreed personal terms its pretty reasonable to assume that they will be able to pay the transfer fee.

Who knows where that money is comong from BUT they are in race which would suggest that the "they are skint" argument is utter utter bollocks - if they can afford to spunk 50 Million last year on shite as some people believe then they will spend similar to land Hazard if he is as good as people seem to think - the cant afford not too

 

[champi19ns]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?

Its because they choose not to buy, and we should take full advantage of that. I know we all have the blue tinted glasses on but like it or not the swamp rags are one of the biggest sporting teams in the world. And if im not mistaken they have had the biggest profits turned over last quarter.

This hazard signing should be our statement that we are the team to beat.

 

[BlueCityfan]

Teams can play with two creative midfielders. We played with Nasri, Silva and Tevez when the season ended. If City try and sign a midfielder, the player is going to look at the team and wonder where he is going to play. That's not arrogance, that's a fact.

If Utd signed Kagawa, they could still accomodate Hazard

I think Mancini could be looking at the same kind of line-up for next season. With Hazard replacing TEVEZ.

I still think we will sell Tevez. Only reason i can see Tevez staying is that no1 is prepared to pay enough.

If Tevez and mancini have patched their relationship up, then we'd be mad to sell Tevez. Ideal foil for Aguero and son versatile

I think they have patched their relationship aswell. But we wouldn't be mad to sell him, he is 28 and the club could be looking to sell him when he is still has some value.

I could see Hazard forming a very good understanding with Aguero aswell. With Hazard playing behind Aguero.

 

[Super David Silva 21]

From what i've read and heard he seems United bound.

They deserve him as he sounds like an utter prick anyways.

 

[Red_fan]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

 

[EalingBlue2]

United can afford loads if they choose but until they get in a viera or a Keane their midfield will be an open gateway which any strong team will be able to stroll through. Their defence will be older and slower next year . I suspect they have a lot of money as surely they would not spend their money on something that is not their main need. We will finish above them next year unless they sign a truly world class central box to box midfielder good enough to go toe to toe with yaya

 

[dctid]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Cant you just fuck off to your own board there are plenty of City fans here whom understand and are able to pass on relevent info

600 - 420 or whatever my point was valid

With regards to the floatation (if indeed it does go ahead (it has been postponed on numerous occassions) i for one would welcome it - selling 25% - 30% of Man Ure to investors whom would want a return on their investment be that in the form of a dividend or increase share value would result in less transfer money for you Rags and would be funny as fook to watch all that money raised from the floatation being diverted by the Glaziers to the US with not a penny being given to the rags,

There is i suspect a rather large thread on Hazard on Ragcafe that you would be better off posting on.

 

[Red_fan]

United can afford loads if they choose but until they get in a viera or a Keane their midfield will be an open gateway which any strong team will be able to stroll through. Their defence will be older and slower next year . I suspect they have a lot of money as surely they would not spend their money on something that is not their main need. We will finish above them next year unless they sign a truly world class central box to box midfielder good enough to go toe to toe with yaya

Our defense still contains Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Evans (Fabio is going out on loan) who are all young and should be better next season. Odds are we'll sign a decent fullback as well. There'll be a question beside Ferdinand but he seems to have adapted his game very well, compensating for his lack of pace by improving his positioning. Question marks over how Vidic will be when he comes back but one thing I'll say is that he never relied on his pace that much anyway (although either did Carragher, and look at him now!). Vidic is only 30 though, odds are he'll at least come back a very good player, if not to his previous standards.

Agree re: CM though. Badly need some steel in there that can dictate a game.<br /><br />-- Sat May 26, 2012 10:22 am --<br /><br />

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Cant you just fuck off to your own board there are plenty of City fans here whom understand and are able to pass on relevent info

600 - 420 or whatever my point was valid

With regards to the floatation (if indeed it does go ahead (it has been postponed on numerous occassions) i for one would welcome it - selling 25% - 30% of Man Ure to investors whom would want a return on their investment be that in the form of a dividend or increase share value would result in less transfer money for you Rags and would be funny as fook to watch all that money raised from the floatation being diverted by the Glaziers to the US with not a penny being given to the rags,

There is i suspect a rather large thread on Hazard on Ragcafe that you would be better off posting on.

Well the Glazers have to notify their intentions with regard what they will do with the money raised from the float, and if they don't agree to pump at least most of the money into the actual club, they will not get top dollar for it at all. It would make sense to clear the debt and wipe out the interest as well.

 

[dctid]

United can afford loads if they choose but until they get in a viera or a Keane their midfield will be an open gateway which any strong team will be able to stroll through. Their defence will be older and slower next year . I suspect they have a lot of money as surely they would not spend their money on something that is not their main need. We will finish above them next year unless they sign a truly world class central box to box midfielder good enough to go toe to toe with yaya

Our defense still contains Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Evans (Fabio is going out on loan) who are all young and should be better next season. Odds are we'll sign a decent fullback as well. There'll be a question beside Ferdinand but he seems to have adapted his game very well, compensating for his lack of pace by improving his positioning. Question marks over how Vidic will be when he comes back but one thing I'll say is that he never relied on his pace that much anyway (although either did Carragher, and look at him now!). Vidic is only 30 though, odds are he'll at least come back a very good player, if not to his previous standards.

Agree re: CM though. Badly need some steel in there that can dictate a game.

-- Sat May 26, 2012 10:22 am --

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Cant you just fuck off to your own board there are plenty of City fans here whom understand and are able to pass on relevent info

600 - 420 or whatever my point was valid

With regards to the floatation (if indeed it does go ahead (it has been postponed on numerous occassions) i for one would welcome it - selling 25% - 30% of Man Ure to investors whom would want a return on their investment be that in the form of a dividend or increase share value would result in less transfer money for you Rags and would be funny as fook to watch all that money raised from the floatation being diverted by the Glaziers to the US with not a penny being given to the rags,

There is i suspect a rather large thread on Hazard on Ragcafe that you would be better off posting on.

Well the Glazers have to notify their intentions with regard what they will do with the money raised from the float, and if they don't agree to pump at least most of the money into the actual club, they will not get top dollar for it at all. It would make sense to clear the debt and wipe out the interest as well.

Of course they would because they the Glaziers are honourable and trust worthy business men - mug of course they will divert money to the US under one guise or anither they have been taking money out of you lot since they bought you that why you need a floatation to raise more - dont you get it yet!!!!!!!!

 

[Rammyblues]

I take it there is no news.