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There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
All I will say on Hazard is that the only reason it has been carried in various outlets is because of it running in L'Equipe.

It's not a briefing, it's a lift.

Now use your heads. The original article states his people went to London this weekend, when the entire fucking club is over in Munich?

Buck, Gourlay, De Matteo, the big boss, the bloody tea lady.

Hazard is on record as saying it will be one of the Manchester clubs.

It is also known his agents, as they tend to do, are trying to get the best for their client, same as Nasri's did.

A discreet whisper that Chelsea are interested, and why wouldn't they be, serves many purposes.

As of yesterday, the word was his agents were asking silly fees, but this happens all the time.

There was still a strong feeling of confidence he would be choosing us.
So its sounds like your confident we will sign him? :D
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Cunts I can ignore.

This is a **** who despite a seemingly modicum of intelligence, allows his jealousy and bitterness to come to the fore in every post where I am referenced.

He wants to scream it from the rooftops, I'm a charlatan, whatever.

He generally posts when I am not signed in or part of a discussion, the actions of a shitbag.

You will always get people who won't believe unless you tell them exactly where your info comes from - and they might not then - but if you have info, you can't reveal the source and a there's no such thing as a done deal until the ink is dry so you have to trust in your own integrity.

I used to have access to info direct from the City dressing room, which I used on another forum but shared with another poster on this forum (URG) who had loads of good sources. I don't have any sources anymore, time change, but I reckon that I can smell when people do and your aroma is more eau de than bovine.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Matt.D said:
blue.behind.enemy.lines said:
Clueless aren't you? 99% of stories in the papers are bollocks. You should maybe try following Tolmie and Fbloke on twitter instead of the countless Indonesian rags and daft cockneys that tweet constant bullshit over any snippet they hear. Your just as bad

Hahahahahaha fucking hell I've heard it all now. Tolmie knows fuck all hence his being quiet over the last day or 2 so he can try and make sense of it from newsnow. He will probably come out with some shit like "we have done everything we can, the lad and his agents know whats on the table, we wont budge. It was between us and the rags, but then last minute Chelsea have come in and his greedy agent wants to talk to them too, but our offer still stands and we still have a chance". Nothing anything the papers haven't told you ever comes out of his mouth he just chooses and guesses which to believe and then offers ridiculous videos that could be interpreted 100 different ways to offer an overview of the situation to cover every possibility.

Only guy who was ever ITK was that spursmad fella who came out n said yep your getting tevez, Barry RSC and stuart Taylor. Before any of them were mentioned in papers.

I agree newspapers bullshit to sell, fact. But every single one of them in both countries, with the same story? I hope he signs for us because he's a quality player, so I hope I don't have to come back and say I told you so.


Are you mentally ill, you seem to have an obsession in trying to discredit me in every post you make in this forum.

I actually work for a living, such is life. Stop being a dickhead, the jealousy is bordering on bitter.

I work in a media capacity and hence, you might even read or hear something on similar timelines.

You do this board and me a disservice. My info isn't fucking rolling news, or for your peace of mind.

I have experience and an advantage that brings something tangible to this board, regardless of how it doesn't suit your taste..

You, on the other hand, need to accept that there are people in this life who might know a little more than you.


Is this Tolmie's first diva strop of the summer?
 
The club has been in this situation many times before, we are rich so let's try and take the piss to get more wonga out of City,mention London and then naive negotiators at little club City will flap like a tap dancers fanny and give us what we want.Things are different now though, we already have Aguero,Silva,Nasri,Tevez and Yaya at the club and we are fucking English Champions to boot- if he goes to Chelsea it's for the money- my,how things are changing at City.

We are by far the best team in England at this moment in time.


Believe
 
Kun Aguero said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Matt.D said:
Hahahahahaha fucking hell I've heard it all now. Tolmie knows fuck all hence his being quiet over the last day or 2 so he can try and make sense of it from newsnow. He will probably come out with some shit like "we have done everything we can, the lad and his agents know whats on the table, we wont budge. It was between us and the rags, but then last minute Chelsea have come in and his greedy agent wants to talk to them too, but our offer still stands and we still have a chance". Nothing anything the papers haven't told you ever comes out of his mouth he just chooses and guesses which to believe and then offers ridiculous videos that could be interpreted 100 different ways to offer an overview of the situation to cover every possibility.

Only guy who was ever ITK was that spursmad fella who came out n said yep your getting tevez, Barry RSC and stuart Taylor. Before any of them were mentioned in papers.

I agree newspapers bullshit to sell, fact. But every single one of them in both countries, with the same story? I hope he signs for us because he's a quality player, so I hope I don't have to come back and say I told you so.


Are you mentally ill, you seem to have an obsession in trying to discredit me in every post you make in this forum.

I actually work for a living, such is life. Stop being a dickhead, the jealousy is bordering on bitter.

I work in a media capacity and hence, you might even read or hear something on similar timelines.

You do this board and me a disservice. My info isn't fucking rolling news, or for your peace of mind.

I have experience and an advantage that brings something tangible to this board, regardless of how it doesn't suit your taste..

You, on the other hand, need to accept that there are people in this life who might know a little more than you.


Is this Tolmie's first diva strop of the summer?

Not a strop, purely a statement of fact. You do tend to recognise posters who are consistent in their contributions, it's generally bizarre.

They accuse others of some sort of cult, but by the greatest of ironies, they are actually the most obsessive!

I would like to take the opportunity to apologise to Matt D for calling him a ****, mentally ill, though.

I usually only reserve such prose for Rags. I shouldn't assume I know who or what he is about.<br /><br />-- Sun May 20, 2012 9:14 am --<br /><br />
BlueCityfan said:
But will he reveal his decision after today's game or tomorrow like he said?


Asking the wrong person, mate!

Only Hazard can tell you that.
 
Matt.D said:
blue.behind.enemy.lines said:
Matt.D said:
So accordin to some of you lot, every major newspaper in both England and France over the last 24 hours are just purely speculating about Chelsea coming in for him? Chelsea are quite clearly well in the race now as much as some of you don't want to believe it.

Clueless aren't you? 99% of stories in the papers are bollocks. You should maybe try following Tolmie and Fbloke on twitter instead of the countless Indonesian rags and daft cockneys that tweet constant bullshit over any snippet they hear. Your just as bad

Hahahahahaha fucking hell I've heard it all now. Tolmie knows fuck all hence his being quiet over the last day or 2 so he can try and make sense of it from newsnow. He will probably come out with some shit like "we have done everything we can, the lad and his agents know whats on the table, we wont budge. It was between us and the rags, but then last minute Chelsea have come in and his greedy agent wants to talk to them too, but our offer still stands and we still have a chance". Nothing anything the papers haven't told you ever comes out of his mouth he just chooses and guesses which to believe and then offers ridiculous videos that could be interpreted 100 different ways to offer an overview of the situation to cover every possibility.

Only guy who was ever ITK was that spursmad fella who came out n said yep your getting tevez, Barry RSC and stuart Taylor. Before any of them were mentioned in papers.

I agree newspapers bullshit to sell, fact. But every single one of them in both countries, with the same story? I hope he signs for us because he's a quality player, so I hope I don't have to come back and say I told you so.

Posters and viewers on here do not need saved by your wonderful insight and knowledge. They know what Tolmie brings to the table and limitations, and they INTERPRET AND EVALUATE the info, they are not stupid.

He gives GOOD not PERFECT info, which I for one appreciate and enjoy.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
All I will say on Hazard is that the only reason it has been carried in various outlets is because of it running in L'Equipe.

It's not a briefing, it's a lift.

Now use your heads. The original article states his people went to London this weekend, when the entire fucking club is over in Munich?

Buck, Gourlay, De Matteo, the big boss, the bloody tea lady.

Hazard is on record as saying it will be one of the Manchester clubs.

It is also known his agents, as they tend to do, are trying to get the best for their client, same as Nasri's did.

A discreet whisper that Chelsea are interested, and why wouldn't they be, serves many purposes.

As of yesterday, the word was his agents were asking silly fees, but this happens all the time.

There was still a strong feeling of confidence he would be choosing us.

Thanks mate.

On another theme and just your opinion not what you may or may not know which of the strikers we have been linked with do you prefer/most suited to city i.e. Higuain, Falcao, Ibra, Lorrente etc. My preference would be Falcao
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.

Certainly more than an element of truth to this. Though forgive me for being amused with your conclusion, we're not normally at the "should just walk away" stage of transfers till well into the window :p
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.

So you put a huge amount of work into this deal, conducted 16month scouting mission on the main target , looked at every single aspect of his life, including what TV programmes he likes, what food he likes ....etc, and just walk away..... Right
 
Equipe's latest. Nothing new though

On 20/05/2012 at 9:27:00
Foot - Ligue 1:
Hazard, the last hurrayThe farewell Eden Hazard LOSC and France on the occasion of Lille-Nancy: Here are the menu Sunday at North Stadium, which it will be the last before the move to new stadium ...
Eden Hazard played five years with Lille in Ligue 1. His first game was November 24, 2007 against ... Nancy. (The Team)


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This week, the multiple requests to know what were the impressions of Eden Hazard before his last game - without challenge - with Lille went unheeded, the biggest disappointment of the media following a year-round LOSC. There were however some questions twice best player in Ligue 1. Did he really aware it's all over? It will leave a protective cocoon and family? What are her favorite memories with his first club? His best goal? From this, it will actually issue Sunday, post-game, when the Belgian prodigy will appear in the press room of the Stadium. I promise, it is expected, it seems. Before that, Hazard has bowed out in the standing-ovation of fans to whom he could speak. And it will loop one adventure began in late November 2007 under the direction of Claude Puel. Against Nancy (2-0, 15th d.), Already. Its balance sheet? 146 games (including 113 as owner), 33 goals, 34 assists and arabesques incredible that earned a boy, who has kept his head on his shoulders, the admiration of all.
Garcia: "It can become a great European player" " I agree with his goal in Marseille last season (1-2, 26th d.) with this beautiful shot from distance and one in Saint-Etienne in early season (1-3, 5th d.) . A symbolic purpose of its ability to eliminate the opponent to dribble , "says Rudi Garcia, who did not fail to recall that her attacker was still only 21. The Lille coach is confident qu'Hazard will prevail wherever he goes. " I have often said that his destiny is to become a major European player. That's his challenge and can meet it. He still has to work and cross the last stages. "As powerful and prove decisive in the Champions League or with the Red Devils, which is not yet the case. In the ranks northerners, we did not hesitate to share with Belgium on his future destination. United? City? Chelsea? " I told him about his playing time , "says Garcia. " I told him of especially good relationship with his future coach , "warns Rio Mavuba, smarting from its failed experiment with Villarreal at the end of his years in Bordeaux. His teammates know they will choose which club Hazard? They swear not. Only certainty, even with the 40 million transfer, the LOSC can replace such a player
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.
Name me a more direct player in the world (let alone aged 21) than Hazard other than Messi and Ronaldo.
 
Mad 4 It said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
All I will say on Hazard is that the only reason it has been carried in various outlets is because of it running in L'Equipe.

It's not a briefing, it's a lift.

Now use your heads. The original article states his people went to London this weekend, when the entire fucking club is over in Munich?

Buck, Gourlay, De Matteo, the big boss, the bloody tea lady.

Hazard is on record as saying it will be one of the Manchester clubs.

It is also known his agents, as they tend to do, are trying to get the best for their client, same as Nasri's did.

A discreet whisper that Chelsea are interested, and why wouldn't they be, serves many purposes.

As of yesterday, the word was his agents were asking silly fees, but this happens all the time.

There was still a strong feeling of confidence he would be choosing us.

Thanks mate.

On another theme and just your opinion not what you may or may not know which of the strikers we have been linked with do you prefer/most suited to city i.e. Higuain, Falcao, Ibra, Lorrente etc. My preference would be Falcao


As would be mine.
 
I was disappointed Chelsea won last night because I was hoping they would disappear off the radar, but now they are going to be back in competing for all our targets.

What's your take on this Tolmie?

The good news is that however bad we feel about it, it makes it is much worse for Utd. City can only buy 2-3 players. Utd could work around that, but with CFC back it means CFC and City will pick up 7-8 players and Utd will either pick up the remaining crumbs or pay over the odds.

And the other good news is that Bale and Modric come into play
 
adrianr said:
ANY1aBLUE said:
There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.

Certainly more than an element of truth to this. Though forgive me for being amused with your conclusion, we're not normally at the "should just walk away" stage of transfers till well into the window :p


I'll tell you blunt what it is, iccklecityitis.

Despite being Premier League champions and the best team in the countrty by quite a distance, some blues still care what others think of us, United etc.

We will not sign every top player in the world, players are motivated for various reasons.

Hazard is a great player who could turn out to be world class.

But there are plenty players out there who equally fit this description.

I firmly believe that under Mancini, and with our current squad, Hazard can up his levels.
 
SWP's back said:
ANY1aBLUE said:
There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.
Name me a more direct player in the world (let alone aged 21) than Hazard other than Messi and Ronaldo.
Neymar
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
There must be a term for what's occurring here - we're in danger of way over rating this player. He's very good, but he's not the only 'very good' player in the world and he's certainly not in the Messi/Ronaldo league.

Why the massive panic over who he signs for? We should only want players who want to wear our shirt and die for the cause, otherwise we're only storing up problems for the future and risking upsetting the dressing room.

If this guy is undecided, then we should walk away. Personally, given the choice - i'd have bale anyway.......................however, i stand by what i've said all along - hazard will come to us, the rest is agents trying to get us to pay more.


Because the only player out there that is more talented then hazard is Neymar which is barca bound.
 
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