Well the fact that he consistently plays as a DM when De Roon isn't playing and even his natural position in the 343 can be defined as a DM then it seems an odd classificationOh no he isn't ;-)
I think the difference here is that I'm just describing reality as it currently exists rather than a fantasy I want.Do you know what a DM is? I ask simply out of astonishment at your recurring description of Kova as one.
If all the other players caught the plague he'd be our best option in every position.I think the difference here is that I'm just describing reality as it currently exists rather than a fantasy I want.
Kova is currently Man City's starting and best DM option. He'd be greatly helped by having an athletic box to box DM/CM next to him and a front line that better understands how to press in Unison.
He honestly that bad? I'm being genuine. Never seen the lad play.Not any better than Nunes IMO
He consistently plays in Central Midfield. They really don't play a DM based system. But in so far as one wants to force the DM designation on their team, De Roon usually is the more restrained of the 2. But even in Italian parlance they call him the Segundo Valante... which I've been in told translates to second wheel or second midfielder.Well the fact that he consistently plays as a DM when De Roon isn't playing and even his natural position in the 343 can be defined as a DM then it seems an odd classification
Well, currently our normal DM is out, and he is currently the best option at DM. Everuone else is either worse or experimental.If all the other players caught the plague he'd be our best option in every position.
You're overcomplicating this. They are both midfielders who play from deep, one slightly more defensive than the other. They're defensive midfielders.He consistently plays in Central Midfield. They really don't play a DM based system. But in so far as one wants to force the DM designation on their team, De Roon usually is the more restrained of the 2. But even in Italian parlance they call him the Segundo Valante... which I've been in told translates to second wheel or second midfielder.
I’m not in the «Nunes is bad» camp, but I don’t think Ederson is the answer. Not good enough in small spaces and usually when I watch him he’s bypassed quite easily. I think there are better options out thereHe honestly that bad? I'm being genuine. Never seen the lad play.
It seems we are both describing a CM here but you prefer to call him a DM. I won't belabor the point. I think he has the traits to play as a DM for us.You're overcomplicating this. They are both midfielders who play from deep, one slightly more defensive than the other. They're defensive midfielders.
And it's Segundo Volante, is an Argentinian phrase that was popularised in the modern game by the 1970 Brazilian World Cup team who played a 424 with Gerson. The actual way we talk about this is the difference between a 6 and an 8.
He plays as a defensive midfielder who can operate as an 8 but also plays as a 6 when De Roon, who is the Clodoaldo of the two, is out.
I refuse to believe that a man of your passion hasn't read Inverting the Pyramid. Has a whole chapter on it iirc :D
It seems we are both describing a CM here but you prefer to call him a DM. I won't belabor the point. I think he has the traits to play as a DM for us.
Even though i would prefer a better CM personally.
hmmm - nothing really sets him apart tonight. The aged De Roon seems more enterprising,He is playing against Napoli right now.
Watch him if you havent yet.
He isnt doing great, I agree.hmmm - nothing really sets him apart tonight. The aged De Roon seems more enterprising,
Like I've said earlier in the thread, I've watched Atalanta multiple times and he has never jumped out at to me. I have paid closer attention to him the last few games and I still don't see anything worth being excited about.hmmm - nothing really sets him apart tonight. The aged De Roon seems more enterprising,
Got big money more on mindHe isnt doing great, I agree.
He's chugging around to no great purpose - a bit like Kalvin does.Like I've said earlier in the thread, I've watched Atalanta multiple times and he has never jumped out at to me. I have paid closer attention to him the last few games and I still don't see anything worth being excited about.