Edin Dzeko

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noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
He is mate. Absolute shit.

You're a shit poster. So too are the other Dzeko-ites on this thread. Fucking weirdos the lot of you to the point of being a bit creepy. The cult of Edin.
Great post. Any arguments, or just ad hominem attacks?

I prefer debate to arguement. And there is simply no point in debating with fanatical dickwads.
 
pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Again, that's the problem; papering over the cracks.

The odd successful pass, which is only what that was as Negredo turned it into a goal scoring chance, doesn't make up for countless mis-controls or lack of effort or moaning to the ref, which he did in abundance.

You take the criticism too literally. He was very, very poor.
He was as poor as any striker without a midfield. But to keep saying he did nothing is a lie. The only crack(s) I see is in your pipe :P
Check the edit.
No worse than the rest of the team, until Silva and Zaba came in. But he won us that game. Why is it so imperative, Dzeko gets shit for it anyways? He hasn't played pretty much an entire month before that. I could never understand the constant need to deride a player who delivers goals.<br /><br />-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:22 pm --<br /><br />
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
You're a shit poster. So too are the other Dzeko-ites on this thread. Fucking weirdos the lot of you to the point of being a bit creepy. The cult of Edin.
Great post. Any arguments, or just ad hominem attacks?

I prefer debate to arguement. And there is simply no point in debating with fanatical dickwads.
I'll take that as a compliment coming from you :) Cheers!
 
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
You're a shit poster. So too are the other Dzeko-ites on this thread. Fucking weirdos the lot of you to the point of being a bit creepy. The cult of Edin.
Great post. Any arguments, or just ad hominem attacks?

I prefer debate to arguement. And there is simply no point in debating with fanatical dickwads.

This sums it up perfectly.
 
noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
He was as poor as any striker without a midfield. But to keep saying he did nothing is a lie. The only crack(s) I see is in your pipe :P
Check the edit.
No worse than the rest of the team, until Silva and Zaba came in. But he won us that game. Why is it so imperative, Dzeko gets shit for it anyways? He hasn't played pretty much an entire month before that. I could never understand the constant need to deride a player who delivers goals.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:22 pm --

Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
Great post. Any arguments, or just ad hominem attacks?

I prefer debate to arguement. And there is simply no point in debating with fanatical dickwads.
I'll take that as a compliment coming from you :) Cheers!
Whilst I'm not in agreement with the colourful language used by LT I can't help but agree with the overall point.

Noise, I showed you statistical facts that show how badly Edin played against Newcastle for the most part and you replied with a gif of a single pass, whilst being pedantic over the fact people said he did nothing.

Whether Silva's on the pitch or not that doesn't make up for the fact that HE gave the ball away more than any other player and HE was dispossessed more than any other player.
 
1. Player turns out to be not as good as other players. Hence player being lower down the list in pecking order.

2. Player then is peeved at manager for not playing him, player gets worse.

3. Player then approaches chairman, effectively asks the chairman to sack manager.

4. Player now claims new manager is better... despite still being crap and still on the bench.

5. ....


Well, I think the next step is fairly obvious.
 
Bigga said:
Well, here's the thing, people:

Negredo playing more than Dzeko is to be expected, for now. Edin already knows the Prem, Al does not. MP has chosen not to drop him in, little by little, which is fine and clearly something Edin knows too.

According to that quote from before, Edin is fine with it and he, clearly, supports his colleague.

Al will be benched, also and it's really something I thought would happen as it is now.

There will be no January sale, so get the fook over that thinking now!

Edin is here til, at least, summer.

Move the fook on!!


If he continues playing the way he's playing and edin wouldn't improve then you could go ahead and keep on dreaming !
 
pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Check the edit.
No worse than the rest of the team, until Silva and Zaba came in. But he won us that game. Why is it so imperative, Dzeko gets shit for it anyways? He hasn't played pretty much an entire month before that. I could never understand the constant need to deride a player who delivers goals.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:22 pm --

Lucky Toma said:
I prefer debate to arguement. And there is simply no point in debating with fanatical dickwads.
I'll take that as a compliment coming from you :) Cheers!
Whilst I'm not in agreement with the colourful language used by LT I can't help but agree with the overall point.

Noise, I showed you statistical facts that show how badly Edin played against Newcastle for the most part and you replied with a gif of a single pass, whilst being pedantic over the fact people said he did nothing.

Whether Silva's on the pitch or not that doesn't make up for the fact that HE gave the ball away more than any other player and HE was dispossessed more than any other player.
You said he did nothing all 90 minutes. I gave you a proof of that being false. You can disagree as much as you want but, based on the evidence I am correct.

I never argued about his passing, not sure why you bring that up.
 
noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
No worse than the rest of the team, until Silva and Zaba came in. But he won us that game. Why is it so imperative, Dzeko gets shit for it anyways? He hasn't played pretty much an entire month before that. I could never understand the constant need to deride a player who delivers goals.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:22 pm --


I'll take that as a compliment coming from you :) Cheers!
Whilst I'm not in agreement with the colourful language used by LT I can't help but agree with the overall point.

Noise, I showed you statistical facts that show how badly Edin played against Newcastle for the most part and you replied with a gif of a single pass, whilst being pedantic over the fact people said he did nothing.

Whether Silva's on the pitch or not that doesn't make up for the fact that HE gave the ball away more than any other player and HE was dispossessed more than any other player.
You said he did nothing all 90 minutes. I gave you a proof of that being false. You can disagree as much as you want but, based on the evidence I am correct.

I never argued about his passing, not sure why you bring that up.
Because it shows how poorly he was, which was what you were arguing.

Those facts prove that those who say he was poor for most of the game are correct. His passing was among the lowest, he gave the ball away and was dispossessed more than anyone else. That's playing badly, but his goal and assist in ET will cover that up for some.

Once again, you take things too literally. As I said, even giving the ball away is doing something...
 
noise said:
bugsyblue said:
Lucky Toma said:
I prefer debate to arguement. And there is simply no point in debating with fanatical dickwads.

This sums it up perfectly.
I wouldn't expect any more for your level of intelligence. Perfect indeed.

Noise your location sums you up. You're wumming and its probably a big part of your life right now. Should imagine that you've mentioned it to mates as if its important and amounts to something of substance. They probably know what you're like - a strange sort - and nod politely.

If someone stated something absolutely incontestable about Edin Dzeko that was remotely negative you'd 'defend' him to the hilt. So what is your opinion worth? Absolutely fuck all.

You fan boys are doing my tits in. Weird arrested development tools.
 
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
bugsyblue said:
This sums it up perfectly.
I wouldn't expect any more for your level of intelligence. Perfect indeed.

Noise your location sums you up. You're wumming and its probably a big part of your life right now. Should imagine that you've mentioned it to mates as if its important and amounts to something of substance. They probably know what you're like - a strange sort - and nod politely.

If someone stated something absolutely incontestable about Edin Dzeko that was remotely negative you'd 'defend' him to the hilt. So what is your opinion worth? Absolutely fuck all.

You fan boys are doing my tits in. Weird arrested development tools.
Apparently, to you it's worth something :)
 
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
I wouldn't expect any more for your level of intelligence. Perfect indeed.

Noise your location sums you up. You're wumming and its probably a big part of your life right now. Should imagine that you've mentioned it to mates as if its important and amounts to something of substance. They probably know what you're like - a strange sort - and nod politely.

If someone stated something absolutely incontestable about Edin Dzeko that was remotely negative you'd 'defend' him to the hilt. So what is your opinion worth? Absolutely fuck all.

You fan boys are doing my tits in. Weird arrested development tools.
Apparently, to you it's worth something :)

This forum is worth something to me. And you and your fellow tools are presently a shit-stain upon it. Thats as far as I care.
 
pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Whilst I'm not in agreement with the colourful language used by LT I can't help but agree with the overall point.

Noise, I showed you statistical facts that show how badly Edin played against Newcastle for the most part and you replied with a gif of a single pass, whilst being pedantic over the fact people said he did nothing.

Whether Silva's on the pitch or not that doesn't make up for the fact that HE gave the ball away more than any other player and HE was dispossessed more than any other player.
You said he did nothing all 90 minutes. I gave you a proof of that being false. You can disagree as much as you want but, based on the evidence I am correct.

I never argued about his passing, not sure why you bring that up.
Because it shows how poorly he was, which was what you were arguing.

Those facts prove that those who say he was poor for most of the game are correct. His passing was among the lowest, he gave the ball away and was dispossessed more than anyone else. That's playing badly, but his goal and assist in ET will cover that up for some.

Once again, you take things too literally. As I said, even giving the ball away is doing something...
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?<br /><br />-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:45 pm --<br /><br />
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
Noise your location sums you up. You're wumming and its probably a big part of your life right now. Should imagine that you've mentioned it to mates as if its important and amounts to something of substance. They probably know what you're like - a strange sort - and nod politely.

If someone stated something absolutely incontestable about Edin Dzeko that was remotely negative you'd 'defend' him to the hilt. So what is your opinion worth? Absolutely fuck all.

You fan boys are doing my tits in. Weird arrested development tools.
Apparently, to you it's worth something :)

This forum is worth something to me. And you and your fellow tools are presently a shit-stain upon it. Thats as far as I care.
Yet your hateful rhetoric is what gives all of us a bad name.
 
noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
You said he did nothing all 90 minutes. I gave you a proof of that being false. You can disagree as much as you want but, based on the evidence I am correct.

I never argued about his passing, not sure why you bring that up.
Because it shows how poorly he was, which was what you were arguing.

Those facts prove that those who say he was poor for most of the game are correct. His passing was among the lowest, he gave the ball away and was dispossessed more than anyone else. That's playing badly, but his goal and assist in ET will cover that up for some.

Once again, you take things too literally. As I said, even giving the ball away is doing something...
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:45 pm --

Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
Apparently, to you it's worth something :)

This forum is worth something to me. And you and your fellow tools are presently a shit-stain upon it. Thats as far as I care.
Yet your hateful rhetoric is what gives all of us a bad name.

I'll put my post history against yours and lets see which reflects poorly on BlueMoon. At least Im not playing an immature argueing game for juvenile kicks that is reeling in and annoying the fuck out of decent blues (dont mean me - im a blue but not decent).

That puts me one up for starters.
 
noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
You said he did nothing all 90 minutes. I gave you a proof of that being false. You can disagree as much as you want but, based on the evidence I am correct.

I never argued about his passing, not sure why you bring that up.
Because it shows how poorly he was, which was what you were arguing.

Those facts prove that those who say he was poor for most of the game are correct. His passing was among the lowest, he gave the ball away and was dispossessed more than anyone else. That's playing badly, but his goal and assist in ET will cover that up for some.

Once again, you take things too literally. As I said, even giving the ball away is doing something...
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?
A bad midfield doesn't make up for getting the ball taken off of you the most times, nor does it nullify giving the ball away the most times.

What purpose does taking the sentence "he did nothing" literally and arguing about it have? None, because he was very poor in that match as a lack of acknowledgement, as shown by your priority of what to argue, has shown.

You're being pedantic as means to deflect it seems
 
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Because it shows how poorly he was, which was what you were arguing.

Those facts prove that those who say he was poor for most of the game are correct. His passing was among the lowest, he gave the ball away and was dispossessed more than anyone else. That's playing badly, but his goal and assist in ET will cover that up for some.

Once again, you take things too literally. As I said, even giving the ball away is doing something...
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:45 pm --

Lucky Toma said:
This forum is worth something to me. And you and your fellow tools are presently a shit-stain upon it. Thats as far as I care.
Yet your hateful rhetoric is what gives all of us a bad name.

I'll put my post history against yours and lets see which reflects poorly on BlueMoon. At least Im not playing an immature argueing game for juvenile kicks that is reeling in and annoying the fuck out of decent blues (dont mean me - im a blue but not decent).

That puts me one up for starters.
You do that.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:50 pm --

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Because it shows how poorly he was, which was what you were arguing.

Those facts prove that those who say he was poor for most of the game are correct. His passing was among the lowest, he gave the ball away and was dispossessed more than anyone else. That's playing badly, but his goal and assist in ET will cover that up for some.

Once again, you take things too literally. As I said, even giving the ball away is doing something...
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?
A bad midfield doesn't make up for getting the ball taken off of you the most times, nor does it nullify giving the ball away the most times.

What purpose does taking the sentence "he did nothing" literally and arguing about it have? None, because he was very poor in that match and a lack of acknowledgement, as shown by your priority of what to argue, has shown.
But he was not very poor that match. Next to Pants he was the most deserving of the MOTM title. We must live in a parallel universe where a striker who assists for the 1st and scores a brilliant 2nd goal is called out for having a poor match.
 
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
noise said:
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:45 pm --


Yet your hateful rhetoric is what gives all of us a bad name.

I'll put my post history against yours and lets see which reflects poorly on BlueMoon. At least Im not playing an immature argueing game for juvenile kicks that is reeling in and annoying the fuck out of decent blues (dont mean me - im a blue but not decent).

That puts me one up for starters.
You do that.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:50 pm --

pudge said:
noise said:
My argument simply addressed one thing. "Dzeko did nothing for the first 90 minutes". That is a false statement as proven by my evidence. The quality of his game I did not discuss.

If we want to talk about the quality of his overall game. I would say he was cut off from the midfield, because we had a B team on. It is normal for the most forward player to have the worst passing, because he's not in the same position to make easy passes. He also is in charge of winning aerial balls from the goal keeper. Don't all those count as bad passes for instance, if he heads the ball and it doesn't get to a player of the same team?

I have shown that Dzeko has created at least one goal scoring chance in the 2nd half. And ultimately provided the winning assist and a goal.

Is it not suspect how much time it's wasted trying to prove how shit Dzeko was that game? For what purpose? Other than to grasp at straws and find a way to deride Dzeko in any was possible?
A bad midfield doesn't make up for getting the ball taken off of you the most times, nor does it nullify giving the ball away the most times.

What purpose does taking the sentence "he did nothing" literally and arguing about it have? None, because he was very poor in that match and a lack of acknowledgement, as shown by your priority of what to argue, has shown.
But he was not very poor that match. Next to Pants he was the most deserving of the MOTM title.
As much as that gif of a single pass proves he did "nothing"

Giving the ball away the most times, being dispossessed the most times and having the 3rd worst outfield passing succes rate proves he played poorly.
 
pudge said:
noise said:
Lucky Toma said:
I'll put my post history against yours and lets see which reflects poorly on BlueMoon. At least Im not playing an immature argueing game for juvenile kicks that is reeling in and annoying the fuck out of decent blues (dont mean me - im a blue but not decent).

That puts me one up for starters.
You do that.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:50 pm --

pudge said:
A bad midfield doesn't make up for getting the ball taken off of you the most times, nor does it nullify giving the ball away the most times.

What purpose does taking the sentence "he did nothing" literally and arguing about it have? None, because he was very poor in that match and a lack of acknowledgement, as shown by your priority of what to argue, has shown.
But he was not very poor that match. Next to Pants he was the most deserving of the MOTM title.
As much as that gif of a single pass proves he did "nothing"

Giving the ball away the most times, being dispossessed the most times and having the 3rd worst outfield passing succes rate proves he played poorly.
Mate, Dzeko absolutely destroyed Newcastle in our first game of the season. Don't you think Newcastle would put a huge "MARKED MAN" sign on him this time? Your naivete is staggering sometimes.
 
noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
You do that.

-- Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:50 pm --


But he was not very poor that match. Next to Pants he was the most deserving of the MOTM title.
As much as that gif of a single pass proves he did "nothing"

Giving the ball away the most times, being dispossessed the most times and having the 3rd worst outfield passing succes rate proves he played poorly.
Mate, Dzeko absolutely destroyed Newcastle in our first game of the season. Don't you think Newcastle would put a huge "MARKED MAN" sign on him this time? Your naivete is staggering sometimes.
Not really, he wasn't being doubled up or man handled any more than anyone else.

That thinking is rather naive and presumptuous in itself.

Did Norwich put said sign on Aguero yesterday? He's destroyed them in the past
 
Dzeko was awful in the first 90 minutes at Newcastle, the type of frustrating performance that is becoming more and more regular. Greatgoal and assist, and we all know he is more than capable of playing well.
 
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