Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

I’mx sure that’s the way the club look at it but other clubs are slowly beginning to facilitate their supporters a little bit more, whereas ours a disengaging more and more. The amount of empty seats this season is dispiriting. A full house would undoubtedly lift the atmosphere in my opinion whereas seeing dozens of empties in every block adds to the general apathy around the ground.
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Can you give us some examples that you have from these other clubs ?
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asahartford1 said:
I’mx sure that’s the way the club look at it but other clubs are slowly beginning to facilitate their supporters a little bit more, whereas ours a disengaging more and more. The amount of empty seats this season is dispiriting. A full house would undoubtedly lift the atmosphere in my opinion whereas seeing dozens of empties in every block adds to the general apathy around the ground.
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Can you give us some examples that you have from these other clubs ?
Interested in this.
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Liverpool charge £9 for kids and put a portion of tickets to one side for local people also for £9. United are working with the TRA to create and expand the atmosphere section, both those clubs have slashed food and drink prices to get people inside the ground earlier, thus easing the pressures with the new digital ticketing systems. Everton have made it so that an adult and child ticket combined won’t cost more than £50, it’s £80 for an adult and child to watch City v Wolves and when the cat A games roll round it’s over £100. Most clubs actively encourage getting kids in the ground whereas City seem to want to keep them out.
 
Octavian said:
There’s about 51,500 tickets sold so far, presuming Wolves have sold out their end, with a couple of days to go I’d reckon we’ll shift another 800 at least. Likely to be 52k-52.5k there.

The ground doesn’t hold 55000 for league games, segregation around the ground knocks it down a bit.
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The new capacity is around 53,000 since the new advertisng boards went in.
 
Octavian said:
Yes. 51k-53.5k is good for these sorts of games, against B and A list games we sell out, so the club are relatively happy I’d imagine.

£50 is too much tho in terms of making people pay it, we don’t have to do everything commercially focused.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love to pay less for my ticket, and I'd love to make football more accessible for more people. I'm just not convinced that it is necessarily as simple as making tickets cheaper means that you get more fans in who make more noise.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love to pay less for my ticket, and I'd love to make football more accessible for more people. I'm just not convinced that it is necessarily as simple as making tickets cheaper means that you get more fans in who make more noise.
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There’s a couple of lads I know charging £85 for complete viewing of pretty every city game including cups, £35 fire fire stick and £50 for what ever magic they do to it for 12 months viewing.
put that with a trip to Aldi £10 spent on the booze and there you go another empty seat.‘I’m not saying this is why we struggle to fill the place and create an atmosphere but it could be contributing to it.And it’s definitely not just a problem we have either.
 
A57 the snake said:
There’s a couple of lads I know charging £85 for complete viewing of pretty every city game including cups, £35 fire fire stick and £50 for what ever magic they do to it for 12 months viewing.
put that with a trip to Aldi £10 spent on the booze and there you go another empty seat.‘I’m not saying this is why we struggle to fill the place and create an atmosphere but it could be contributing to it.And it’s definitely not just a problem we have either.
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It's definitely one factor. The wider point is that if you're 20 years old you have the entire world of entertainment at a touch of a button, and you don't have to get up early and out in the cold to do it, football is one entertainment choice among many. I hated the super league idea, but the basic point that younger fans don't want to watch City vs Wolves in person, they want to watch Kevin De Bruyne vs Messi on telly, is probably closer to the truth than match going fans would like to accept. Cheaper tickets maybe allows for a handful of fans to come to a couple more games per season, but I'm not convinced that it creates new fans per se.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
It's definitely one factor. The wider point is that if you're 20 years old you have the entire world of entertainment at a touch of a button, and you don't have to get up early and out in the cold to do it, football is one entertainment choice among many. I hated the super league idea, but the basic point that younger fans don't want to watch City vs Wolves in person, they want to watch Kevin De Bruyne vs Messi on telly, is probably closer to the truth than match going fans would like to accept. Cheaper tickets maybe allows for a handful of fans to come to a couple more games per season, but I'm not convinced that it creates new fans per se.
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I’m not saying that the modern world isn’t a contributing factor but when the likes of Burnley and Norwich returned all their tickets in the top tier City put them on sale at £30 and they sold. Price it sensibly and the demand is there.
 
The common consensus is…..If footballers were paid sensible wages and fans paid sensible admission prices then there’d be no disconnect. Personally I’m not that arsed about how much footballers earn or how much my season ticket is as I can afford it thankfully but if you ask anybody why they stopped going to the match and 9/10 say it’s too dear and the money in the game has ruined it for them. The other 1 will say it’s too sterile.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
It's definitely one factor. The wider point is that if you're 20 years old you have the entire world of entertainment at a touch of a button, and you don't have to get up early and out in the cold to do it, football is one entertainment choice among many. I hated the super league idea, but the basic point that younger fans don't want to watch City vs Wolves in person, they want to watch Kevin De Bruyne vs Messi on telly, is probably closer to the truth than match going fans would like to accept. Cheaper tickets maybe allows for a handful of fans to come to a couple more games per season, but I'm not convinced that it creates new fans per se.
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I agree bb , most young lads I know go because of dad or mum saying we’re going to the match because that’s what we did . I know of one young lad who’s city mad and his dad takes him his dads no interest in football but to be fair takes him when they can afford to . I have no answer to what the club can do to be honest. It’s not a charity it’s a business but maybe they could do like a shops do in like a loss leader to enhance people. It’s just a shame that many are missing out in the clubs new golden era .
 
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A57 the snake said:
I agree bb , most young lads I know go because of dad or mum saying we’re going to the match because that’s what we did . I know of one young lad who’s city mad and his dad takes him his dads no interest in football but to be fair takes him when they can afford to . I have no answer to what the club can do to be honest. It’s not a charity it’s a business but maybe they could do like a shops do in like a loss leader to enhance people. It’s just a shame that many are missing out in the clubs new golden era .
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Also can’t fault the club in cup games to get people going in the pricing .
 
Attendances are pretty good considering we ahave been going through a pandemic for a couple of years. We have a members of our OSC Branch not attending on Saturday due to Covid. That’s the environment we are living in.

There are often empties in plenty of blocks and there are also blocks that are fuller than before eg level one of the South Stand is fuller with the reduction in capacity (ignoring the rags and dippers when it was always packed).

The frequent media negativity makes it harder to resell tickets. Talkshite and co love Blues getting upset about empty seat jibes and they fuels the problem.

Maybe Blues who get upset about empties should do more to attract fellow fans. I haven’t heard Spurs fans moaning about all the empties they had against Brentford. Football crowds fluctuated throughout the history of the gane.
 
Beaker said:
You could make 2000 tickets available for local fans (fans who live anywhere in Greater Manchester) at £15 adults, £10 18-21 & over 65 and £5 for kids on a first come first serve basis. Or Cityzens match day members who attended 10 matches the previous season get 6 matches in the current season at £30. So many initiatives the club could introduce but aren’t interested.
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i know its likely better to be on a separate thread about ticket prices, but when they capped away tickets at £30. Something similar should have (and needs to be) done about cost of home fans tickets.

12.30 kick off saturday, loads wont be going

on tv aswell. Be a shite atmosphere again
 
Beaker said:
I’m not saying that the modern world isn’t a contributing factor but when the likes of Burnley and Norwich returned all their tickets in the top tier City put them on sale at £30 and they sold. Price it sensibly and the demand is there.
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We always sell those away seats returned to the club very quickly after they go on sale for £30.

Like we had over 10,000 people apply for the £250 season tickets when SSL3 was expanded… we could fill a big fuck-off stand if we made it all rail seating and £300 per season ticket and £30 per match day ticket.

We seem to properly understand our fanbase where the club doesn’t have a bloody clue though.

We have the fanbase in Greater Manchester alone to fill a 65,000 stadium every single week if the pricing was right and the set-up of the stadium was right with proper decent stands to identify with.

And imagine how good our atmosphere could be if it was like this. Hamburg wasn’t as good as it was because it was a UEFA Cup Quarter Final, it was mainly because tickets were a fiver and it enticed a certain type of City fan.
 
Manchester33 said:
The ticket prices for Wolves at home are a disgrace. We talk on here about what could be done to improve the atmosphere when in reality, the type of people who'll get in a sing are priced out.

In 115:
Adult - £50
OAP + 18-21 - £40
Child - £30

A couple of weeks before Christmas and people don't have that kind of money. There are dozens of tickets available in every single block. We get Pep moaning at us, but what do they expect us to do?
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the prices are disgusting. No wonder the atmosphere is poor, as you say. Let’s price out the people who make the noise, let’s also price out people during a pandemic in a relatively low income city….
The club don’t get our fan base or the city in my opinion
 
I don’t understand our pricing. I sit at the back of 202/204 and was after a Leeds ticket for my daughter who’s home from uni. Virtually all the tickets in the block were £60 which I would’ve deemed too much money to spend for a routine home game but there were one or two for £30. Why the big discrepancy - are the £30 ones returned concessionary tickets and so are resold at the same price ?
 
A57 the snake said:
I agree bb , most young lads I know go because of dad or mum saying we’re going to the match because that’s what we did . I know of one young lad who’s city mad and his dad takes him his dads no interest in football but to be fair takes him when they can afford to . I have no answer to what the club can do to be honest. It’s not a charity it’s a business but maybe they could do like a shops do in like a loss leader to enhance people. It’s just a shame that many are missing out in the clubs new golden era .
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Didn't know Liverpool were doing kids tickets at £9 till this thread. That's a no-brainer if you ask me, get them hooked young like I was and they'll still be coming when they've got a job that can pay for a season card.
 
Gundog’s Gundog said:
I don’t understand our pricing. I sit at the back of 202/204 and was after a Leeds ticket for my daughter who’s home from uni. Virtually all the tickets in the block were £60 which I would’ve deemed too much money to spend for a routine home game but there were one or two for £30. Why the big discrepancy - are the £30 ones returned concessionary tickets and so are resold at the same price ?
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They’re reducing unsold single seats to £30 in the last week of sale but the tickets that get listed on the seat exchange are going on at full whack.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
We always sell those away seats returned to the club very quickly after they go on sale for £30.

Like we had over 10,000 people apply for the £250 season tickets when SSL3 was expanded… we could fill a big fuck-off stand if we made it all rail seating and £300 per season ticket and £30 per match day ticket.

We seem to properly understand our fanbase where the club doesn’t have a bloody clue though.

We have the fanbase in Greater Manchester alone to fill a 65,000 stadium every single week if the pricing was right and the set-up of the stadium was right with proper decent stands to identify with.

And imagine how good our atmosphere could be if it was like this. Hamburg wasn’t as good as it was because it was a UEFA Cup Quarter Final, it was mainly because tickets were a fiver and it enticed a certain type of City fan.
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Fully convinced we could fill it twice over if the price was right. Wouldn't even mind the club milking the international market if it was benefitting the local fan... But it isn't and they're doing it anyway, all while Eastlands has become a tourist trap in the process.

Best run club on the pitch, shite off it.
 
I wrote this in the Wolves ticket thread on the 29th November :

“Does the club ever learn?
Early kick off live on tv
Bang average opposition
Cheapest ticket £50.00 which means….

………empty seats!”

My brother was thinking of taking his missus & 2 boys - the price would have been £160.00 in the South Stand (that’s without food/drink/travel)
After he stopped laughing he booked them all in at the Chill Factor - after he’s watched the game on tele obviously!
There’s another 4 unsold seats

Edit : just noticed cheaper tickets are available in the Family Stand but it’s too late now
 
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