Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[tailspin747]

No, the opportunity to have a single tier stand was missed when they opted not to do it in the South Stand redevelopment. It was never going to happen in the North Stand, for reasons mentioned by supercity88 above.

I know that all fans love the yellow wall, but can anyone think of a single example of new stadia being built with a single tier on a multilevel stadium? Possible exception of the concept art for Liverpool's new stadium, for reasons that should be obvious. I've seen little to persuade me that modern architects do not consider single tier blocks of seats to be anachronistic and out of date. Stadium design seems to be all about the multi-tier bowl now.

Haven't Spurs gone for a single tier at one end?

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

No, the opportunity to have a single tier stand was missed when they opted not to do it in the South Stand redevelopment. It was never going to happen in the North Stand, for reasons mentioned by supercity88 above.

I know that all fans love the yellow wall, but can anyone think of a single example of new stadia being built with a single tier on a multilevel stadium? Possible exception of the concept art for Liverpool's new stadium, for reasons that should be obvious. I've seen little to persuade me that modern architects do not consider single tier blocks of seats to be anachronistic and out of date. Stadium design seems to be all about the multi-tier bowl now.

not sure if its single tier but juventus have a huge stand behind the goal in their new ground that is amazing. i dont see how its been missed at all with safe standing possibly coming in the next few years its perfect, the south and north stand full of standing fans sounds perfect to me. With a two tiered stand the bottom stand would be kept as the family stand with the upper part standing or the other way around, - . they dont have to move the family stand at all. make tickets cheap and it will become a singing area no problem

millenium stadiums another example, spurs new ground will have one.

 

[tailspin747]

I'm hoping they go for the 2 tier option tbh. It would keep the continuity of the current tiers and still provide the 'wall' feeling that would potentially ramp the atmosphere up significantly.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I'm hoping they go for the 2 tier option tbh. It would keep the continuity of the current tiers and still provide the 'wall' feeling that would potentially ramp the atmosphere up significantly.

exactly my thoughts..... if they do the same as the south stand i think its a rushed decision imo. i want the ground to be unique and look different swell

 

[Utter bobbins]

exactly my thoughts..... if they do the same as the south stand i think its a rushed decision imo. i want the ground to be unique and look different swell

Do you not think any plans would have been in place for a while and won't be done on a whim

 

[domalino]

not sure if its single tier but juventus have a huge stand behind the goal in their new ground that is amazing. i dont see how its been missed at all with safe standing possibly coming in the next few years its perfect, the south and north stand full of standing fans sounds perfect to me. With a two tiered stand the bottom stand would be kept as the family stand with the upper part standing or the other way around, - . they dont have to move the family stand at all. make tickets cheap and it will become a singing area no problem

millenium stadiums another example, spurs new ground will have one.

The millennium is a bad example because it was a last minute change because of a fuck up by the WRU and it doesn't look great.

The cgi pictures for the Spurs one looks incredible though.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Have the plans for a single second tier at the north stand been binned then?

Be pretty disappointed if so, would look quality.

Spurs' single tier goal end in the new gaff does look incredible, looks like it'd rival Dortmund's yellow wall - minus the safe standing and cheap tickets obviously.

 

[Manchester33]

Whether they do 1/2/3 tiers we know the noise levels are going to go up significantly anyway. Throw another 6,000 fans in, adjust the roof to keep the noise in, cheaper tickets and voila!

I'm pretty confident the noise won't be a problem, as long as the stadium looks great I'd be happy!

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Has anyone seen any pitch-area photos of the Etihad ready for the rugby match this weekend?

 

[Centurions]

Have the plans for a single second tier at the north stand been binned then?

Be pretty disappointed if so, would look quality.

Spurs' single tier goal end in the new gaff does look incredible, looks like it'd rival Dortmund's yellow wall - minus the safe standing and cheap tickets obviously.

It's all speculation at the moment, even WW who seems to have a friendly mole is getting info that's changing over time.

 

[casualdeyna]

I'd be very surprised if the NS is anything different to a copy of the SS. the club have official plans and planning permission for a third tier expansion at both ends, I haven't seen any official plans that state otherwise.

I'm not saying it's impossible and maybe even one of the reasons the NS isn't being done immediately, while they look in to things, feasibility etc. Mainly due to the family stand though I think they'll go for symmetrical stadium and I'm more than happy with that. the shape of a stand doesn't matter, it is who is in them that is important, and another 6k blues is more than enough...for now!

 

[stony]

Has we had any indication of when work will start on the collar site?

 

[Fat Chance]

Will the north stand be aesthically a carbon copy of the South stand?...surely the north stand will not need the metal roof suspension protrusions design with it not encroaching Ashton New Road.

 

[toffee balls]

Will the north stand be aesthically a carbon copy of the South stand?...surely the north stand will not need the metal roof suspension protrusions design with it not encroaching Ashton New Road.

It will.

Why wouldn't it.

 

[Jacko1956]

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It will.

Why wouldn't it.

supporting framework will be the same as the South Stand as its needed to s to support the cablenet system that holds the roof in place. If the extensions to both the East and West stands is completed then a new roof support system may be needed.

 

[Centurions]

Has we had any indication of when work will start on the collar site?

We don't even know what they're building there yet (bar the fact that a hotel is a given) so time frames won't come into it yet.

 

[somapop]

I suspect if the East and West stands are eventually extended then the North Stand's design will not be an issue. There's the symmetry, but then there was a bit of chit chat over a hotel/complex being built (from the collar site) into the Stadium. Personally, I hope they stay well away from that idea...

 

[supercity88]

Unfortunately, the set up of our stadium has led to the design in my opinion. Structural reasons meant that the South Stand had to be built as it has been. That would have been the one to build as a single tier. There's no way the club would want to relocate one end of supporters to the other and vice versa and it's bonkers to have a single tier family stand. It would be a logistical nightmare, and parents wouldn't be too thankful at having to lug their kids up to the top of a single tier. I think we'll see a mirror of the South Stand, possibly they've looked at alternatives like two tiers and I hope they've looked at providing an area which enhances matchdays for kids on the concourse and family group tickets that can cement future support. I've been to the football with kids in tow and they struggle with maintaining interest for the full length of the game. It would be great if City designed in some child friendly areas or entertainment facilities within the concourse.

I would have loved a single tier as you see with the Spurs design, but the South Stand couldn't have catered for it with the lack of room to the road and the structural engineering works required. It's a shame but if the side stands are ever re-designed we could see some pretty considerable tiers there which can become Kippax like.

 

[Centurions]

Unfortunately, the set up of our stadium has led to the design in my opinion. Structural reasons meant that the South Stand had to be built as it has been. That would have been the one to build as a single tier. There's no way the club would want to relocate one end of supporters to the other and vice versa and it's bonkers to have a single tier family stand. It would be a logistical nightmare, and parents wouldn't be too thankful at having to lug their kids up to the top of a single tier. I think we'll see a mirror of the South Stand, possibly they've looked at alternatives like two tiers and I hope they've looked at providing an area which enhances matchdays for kids on the concourse and family group tickets that can cement future support. I've been to the football with kids in tow and they struggle with maintaining interest for the full length of the game. It would be great if City designed in some child friendly areas or entertainment facilities within the concourse.

I would have loved a single tier as you see with the Spurs design, but the South Stand couldn't have catered for it with the lack of room to the road and the structural engineering works required. It's a shame but if the side stands are ever re-designed we could see some pretty considerable tiers there which can become Kippax like.

The side stands would only ever see the 3rd tier extended back to a certain point due to the spirals, no chance of changing the number of tiers there.

 

[supercity88]

The side stands would only ever see the 3rd tier extended back to a certain point due to the spirals, no chance of changing the number of tiers there.

We shall see... there could be much grander plans envisaged with an exoskeleton style structure to encase and incorporate the stand and provide a covered area with bars/seating/club shop etc. In my opinion we are a long way off any work to the side stands and when we do look at work on them (if we do) then we will probably be at a level that requires quite grand infrastructure. Whilst you are probably right, we can all dream!