Centurions
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What feasibility studies?
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Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread
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In my day the North Stand scoreboard was some old guy putting up numbers on the end of a stick. You could check in your programme to see which games the scores referred to.Showing my age… I remember some bloke giving Swales a kicking at the AGM re the North Stand Scoreboard and Swales fobbing him off saying the manufacture had gone bust and it couldn’t be repaired… fast forward 12 months and the same bloke furnished Swales with full details of the manufacturer- which contrary to Swales claims was not bust and was very much still in business… Swales was obviously unmoved by the fact he’d been exposed yet again as a pathological liar and as you’d know the North Stand Scoreboard never worked (although I think Swales did promise to look into a repair) - then again in the latter Swales era who’d want to be reminded of the score.
crazyg
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In those days you needed to buy a programme for the token inside, that you had to stick to a sheet in order to get tickets for the big cup matches, etc. That, and the front cover of the away match programme. I've many an old programme up in a box in my loft defaced in that way.In my day the North Stand scoreboard was some old guy putting up numbers on the end of a stick. You could check in your programme to see which games the scores referred to.
BLUE THUNDER
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We’re close to or at capacity for almost all of our home league games.It’s not happening.
It would be madness to put another 6000 seats which would not be used for many games. The feasibility studies say no - it’s why it hasnt
Others on this thread seem to be ignoring that the club have literally just ripped out 1100 seats that were only put in 3 seasons ago.
53000 will be a sufficient capacity for the next decade. If it’s sufficient now during the Pep years - it will certainly be more of than sufficient in the post Pep years.
This thread should focus on the Arena and connected hospitality developments which are gonna be fantastic
We have no problem selling our season tickets and there are many wanting season tickets who miss out each season.
Priced reasonably, we’d have no problem adding 6k to our league games, especially the biggest games.
Haven’t seen any feasibility study you refer to ?
Citizen of Legoland
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I was just thinking about the knock on effect of this. I want to buy an extra seasoncard for my son but am finding it hard to get one next to, or near, the two of us. There was a seat next to us before Covid but it didn't show as available to move to this week so might have been taken now (Value Gold maybe). This stops me joining the cup schemes for the existing two because we find it easier to pick up three seats in other parts of the stadium rather than buy the third then ring up to re-locate, but of course sometimes we just don't bother, especially as we're paying for the games on telly as well. It's also a hassle trying to get 3 seats together for ad-hoc league games when buying the third via Cityzens.We’re close to or at capacity for almost all of our home league games.
We have no problem selling our season tickets and there are many wanting season tickets who miss out each season.
Priced reasonably, we’d have no problem adding 6k to our league games, especially the biggest games.
Haven’t seen any feasibility study you refer to ?
It's a pity I couldn't register my interest in that seat to stop it going Value Gold (if that's the reason) because the club could have sold it at full price and got commitment from the three of us for the cup games. I bet there's loads of stories like this around the ground. They need to get it expanded.
Centurions
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I suspect they may only exist in his head.We’re close to or at capacity for almost all of our home league games.
We have no problem selling our season tickets and there are many wanting season tickets who miss out each season.
Priced reasonably, we’d have no problem adding 6k to our league games, especially the biggest games.
Haven’t seen any feasibility study you refer to ?
gouldybob
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Now that's feasibleI suspect they may only exist in his head
nmc
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In my day the North Stand scoreboard was some old guy putting up numbers on the end of a stick. You could check in your programme to see which games the scores referred to.
Yes, I’d forgotten that… next to A they used to slide two numbers in say 21 and a quick check in the programme if you didn’t have your Enigma machine with you - told you it was 2 1 to Arsenal against West Brom. I used to buy the Pink as I left the ground with the scores… only to get home and find that half of them had late goals… so the bloody Rags hadn’t lost after all.
Johnny Mars Bar
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Covid + deferrals not renewing + Pep likely leaving in two years...I'm not sure expanding the stadium further is a good idea at all.
Even with the newly expanded south stand we're not anywhere near full on a lot of cup games / chumps league games.
Making it even bigger would just add fuel to the 'emptyhad' fire.
Even with the newly expanded south stand we're not anywhere near full on a lot of cup games / chumps league games.
Making it even bigger would just add fuel to the 'emptyhad' fire.
JGL07
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The exception to having to buy a programme was for reserve matches. They originally sold the one leaf reserve match team sheet for one (old) penny including a token. The club discovered that some were buying large numbers of the team sheets and passing them on to their mates. So they stopped selling the team sheets and gave them out as you passed through the turnstile.In those days you needed to buy a programme for the token inside, that you had to stick to a sheet in order to get tickets for the big cup matches, etc. That, and the front cover of the away match programme. I've many an old programme up in a box in my loft defaced in that way.
The other issue that cropped up at United was that at away matches, where programmes were sold outside of the stadium, it was not unknown for the programme sellers to be mugged and relieved of their stock. I think United stopped using away match front covers for ticket allocation in response.
I used to fill up the voucher sheet every season but never got to use it until 1969 and 1970. I had a season ticket by 1974 for the next Wembley final so didn’t bother to collect the vouchers any more.
City's support is growing all the time. We're already at capacity. You have a point about Cups but that's not our bread and butter.Covid + deferrals not renewing + Pep likely leaving in two years...I'm not sure expanding the stadium further is a good idea at all.
Even with the newly expanded south stand we're not anywhere near full on a lot of cup games / chumps league games.
Making it even bigger would just add fuel to the 'emptyhad' fire.
Johnny Mars Bar
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City's support is growing all the time. We're already at capacity. You have a point about Cups but that's not our bread and butter.
Not sure you’re right there. Apart from the ‘glamour’ prem games against the rags, dippers etc there’s a noticeable number of empty seats around the ground. I’m in 115 and you can see loads, particularly in the family stand.
I’m not judging - personally I wouldn’t be arsed if we were in a 35000 cap ground - just pointing out what I’ve observed first hand, and that was pre covid
Those seats are in the main sold, the problem Isn't selling them it's getting people to occupy them.Not sure you’re right there. Apart from the ‘glamour’ prem games against the rags, dippers etc there’s a noticeable number of empty seats around the ground. I’m in 115 and you can see loads, particularly in the family stand.
I’m not judging - personally I wouldn’t be arsed if we were in a 35000 cap ground - just pointing out what I’ve observed first hand, and that was pre covid
crazyg
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Same here. As soon as the Kippax started with season (match book) tickets, I stopped buying programmes.I used to fill up the voucher sheet every season but never got to use it until 1969 and 1970. I had a season ticket by 1974 for the next Wembley final so didn’t bother to collect the vouchers any more.
I've just been talking to my friend who sits next to me. He's not renewed.
Maybe in your block. Not in mine. Always full. And if you put your seasoncard on ticket exchange it gets sold straight away.Not sure you’re right there. Apart from the ‘glamour’ prem games against the rags, dippers etc there’s a noticeable number of empty seats around the ground. I’m in 115 and you can see loads, particularly in the family stand.
I’m not judging - personally I wouldn’t be arsed if we were in a 35000 cap ground - just pointing out what I’ve observed first hand, and that was pre covid
The test is what happens when the away fans don't take up their allocation...which they rarely do. How come almost always those away fans seats are sold to City? That shows you there is demand.
Maybe you have some peculiar problem with fans in your block, or you are looking at the corporate blocks which are rarely full. That is an issue. But that's the same at every ground.
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The empty chunks of seats in the Family stand empties are usually the freebies they give to CITC and the academy aren’t they?
The big concern is the deferrals for me, a lot may not come back
The big concern is the deferrals for me, a lot may not come back
Not sure you’re right there. Apart from the ‘glamour’ prem games against the rags, dippers etc there’s a noticeable number of empty seats around the ground. I’m in 115 and you can see loads, particularly in the family stand.
I’m not judging - personally I wouldn’t be arsed if we were in a 35000 cap ground - just pointing out what I’ve observed first hand, and that was pre covid
have a 90k stadium when the big games come they’ll sell out make a fortune you seen Barcelona and Madrid’s stadium half empty against the poorer teams sold out against Madrid! Do you think Madrid be better building a new 60k stadium so it looks sold out when they play the average teams?
u2fme2
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And having taken 3 rolls of seats out around 900 there now even less CapacityCity's support is growing all the time. We're already at capacity. You have a point about Cups but that's not our bread and butter.
kev20971
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It's strange how this idea of "not having a big stadiums unless you can full it" as come from ?have a 90k stadium when the big games come they’ll sell out make a fortune you seen Barcelona and Madrid’s stadium half empty against the poorer teams sold out against Madrid! Do you think Madrid be better building a new 60k stadium so it looks sold out when they play the average teams?
Never seemed a problem in the 1980's, and has you've said , it's not a problem for Real Madrid or Barcelona !
I alway's wonder what size stadium we would of filled for the QPR game back in 2012 ?
It's strange how this idea of "not having a big stadiums unless you can full it" as come from ?
Never seemed a problem in the 1980's, and has you've said , it's not a problem for Real Madrid or Barcelona !
I alway's wonder what size stadium we would of filled for the QPR game back in 2012 ?
yep some people read the media and become sheep can’t think for themselves!