Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[jrb]

You post lots of great stuff JRB but I don’t think the majority of this forum buy this get out of jail free card argument for the Bolton fan any more.

I can’t imagine it’s Khaldoon or Sorinano
Insisting thst the last few hundred PSG tickets are priced at around £400 to be in SSL3 / Vermillion. Yes there will be pressure on the second tier Directors to increase revenues but it’s their choice whether to do that in an unsustainable way like only putting 1,100 tickets on sale for the Derby to season card holders; holding a fictitious second ballot for Aguero’s last game; and introducing mobile ticketing in one fell swoop.

I would like to see cheaper tickets but there’s many more things that are affecting the match day experience. I’m just glad the football
Is brilliant and we have lots of top Blues on this forum.

I don't for one second think either of those two set ticket price points, but both of them, or more likely Soriano, are the drivers behind repositioning the clubs fan base, and driving the matchday revenue increase by whatever means possible.

I work in retail. We have regular visits from Regional Directors. Some of the ideas they want implemented, which are carried out the following day, are laughable. But the Manager, Assistant Managers, Section Managers, Supervisors, and down to the canon fodder, have to implement those ideas.

I appreciate that's the way of the World.

In reality, who am I to tell Soriano, the current CEO of City, and the ex-President of Barcelona FC, how to run Manchester City Football Club?

 

[jrb]

I've seen a mockup of the exterior cladding of the Coop Live Arena. As you'd expect it's almost identical to the CGI's, but the finish isn't shiny (see the CGI below as an example), it''s a 'matt and dull' finish.

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[Fat Chance]

Matt grey sounds exciting (ffs)...grey sky, grey buildings, grey floor...a grey-out

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I don't for one second think either of those two set ticket price points, but both of them, or more likely Soriano, are the drivers behind repositioning the clubs fan base, and driving the matchday revenue increase by whatever means possible.

I work in retail. We have regular visits from Regional Directors. Some of the ideas they want implemented, which are carried out the following day, are laughable. But the Manager, Assistant Managers, Section Managers, Supervisors, and down to the canon fodder, have to implement those ideas.

I appreciate that's the way of the World.

In reality, who am I to tell Soriano, the current CEO of City, and the ex-President of Barcelona FC, how to run Manchester City Football Club?

I agree that Soriano will be putting big pressure on Wilson, De Vries and co. You are also right that we have the right to criticise. It’s just that over the last 12 months it’s been the operational implementation that’s been hitting fans the most. Yes Soriano and Khaldoon set the tone but the implantation has been shoddy.

Fingers crossed the situation is improving with, for example, the extra turnstiles for the PSG game and most fans getting used to the mobile ticketing.

 

[jrb]

4 screen grabs from the drone video. Click on the link to see the drone video

Stuart Prosser - Construction Director at BAM Construct UK - Linkedin

Co-op Live drone imagery to capture the excellent performance from our supply chain as we get ready to commence the structural steel frame next month

Drone Video.

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[jrb]

I agree that Soriano will be putting big pressure on Wilson, De Vries and co. You are also right that we have the right to criticise. It’s just that over the last 12 months it’s been the operational implementation that’s been hitting fans the most. Yes Soriano and Khaldoon set the tone but the implantation has been shoddy.

Fingers crossed the situation is improving with, for example, the extra turnstiles for the PSG game and most fans getting used to the mobile ticketing.

As you say, the operational implementation over the last 12 months has been the biggest issue.

 

[Keeper!]

I've seen a mockup of the exterior cladding of the Coop Live Arena. As you'd expect it's almost identical to the CGI's, but the finish isn't shiny (see the CGI below as an example), it''s a 'matt and dull' finish.

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Said before but for such an "iconic" building the exterior is rank, no imagination whatsoever, could and should be far more dynamic.

 

[Manchester33]

Said before but for such an "iconic" building the exterior is rank, no imagination whatsoever, could and should be far more dynamic.

I always take the CGIs with a pinch of salt. I'm sure it'll look better in real life.

 

[Keeper!]

I always take the CGIs with a pinch of salt. I'm sure it'll look better in real life.

Let's hope so, although the sounds of more matt grey is not hopeful.

 

[kun]

It has a hint of brutalism about it. Not the most aesthetically pleasing style but an extremely space effective one.

I really find it quite hard to believe that grown men are whinging about a building "potentially" being matt grey.

Oh the humanity! Not matt grey!! Won't somebody think of the children!

 

[jrb]

Having looked at the planning application, followed the progress of the arena on social media, attended the Open Doors event, etc, the emphasis is definitely on the inside of the arena, as opposed to the exterior appearance of the arena. The Arena is maximising the whole footprint of the site, hence why it's shaped as it is. A curved arena, or an irregular shaped arena wouldn't achieve that. The site is a square. Hence why the arena is square.

 

[bladdered]

Sorry but don't agree with that. The external appearance is vital for the surrounding area. Another factory looking building does nothing, no matter how good inside. I've seen the impact of the FD Leeds arena on that part of the city. They're building iconic high rise buildings around it. The building looks fantastic and attracts all sorts of coverage when it changes colours etc. Big opportunity missed in my book.

 

[jrb]

Sorry but don't agree with that. The external appearance is vital for the surrounding area. Another factory looking building does nothing, no matter how good inside. I've seen the impact of the FD Leeds arena on that part of the city. They're building iconic high rise buildings around it. The building looks fantastic and attracts all sorts of coverage when it changes colours etc. Big opportunity missed in my book. View attachment 29560

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

With all due respect. In my opinion neither the Leeds Arena nor the student towers are iconic. The student towers are dreadful looking. Even with the landscaping around the Arena, the surrounding area is nothing special. You certainly wouldn't stay there after a concert or an event has finished.

Internally the Leeds Arena is nothing special. It will be totally and utterly overwhelmed internally by the Coop Live Arena. The Coop Live Arena will be one of the best Arenas in the World. The cost of each Arena bears that out. Leeds Arena cost £60mill. The Coop Live Arena is costing £350mill.



The word ‘iconic’ is banded about far too often.

 

[bladdered]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

With all due respect. In my opinion neither the Leeds Arena nor the student towers are iconic. The student towers are dreadful looking. Even with the landscaping around Arena, the surrounding area is nothing special. You certainly wouldn't stay there after a concert or an event has finished.

Internally the Leeds Arena is nothing special. It will be totally and utterly overwhelmed internally by the Coop Live Arena. The Coop Live Arena will be one of the best Arenas in the World. The cost of each Arena bears that out. Leeds Arena cost £60mill. The Coop Live Arena is costing £350mill.

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The word ‘iconic’ is banded about far too often.

I'm not one to cause an argument especially as I really like your posts. But to claim there is nothing around the FD arena is a joke. It's in the fckin city centre. 5 minute walk for great pubs and my bus home. You can watch a gig, have few pints, then go home. This is what our new arena will miss out on until they build up the area or make it a more spectacular venue.

 

[jrb]

I'm not one to cause an argument especially as I really like your posts. But to claim there is nothing around the FD arena is a joke. It's in the fckin city centre. 5 minute walk for great pubs and my bus home. You can watch a gig, have few pints, then go home. This is what our new arena will miss out on until they build up the area or make it a more spectacular venue.

I was being specific about the area adjacent to the Leeds arena, which is clear in the aerial photographs.

It takes 15 minutes to walk to New Islington and Ancoats. Mary D’s is across the road from the Etihad. ;-)

Over 32 bars and restaurants inside the Coop Live Arena will remain open after the concerts and events. There’s no need to go back into town or to leave the Arena.

 

[bladdered]

Have you ever tried walking from the City stadium to town at 11pm when there's not a match on? I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy. Good luck if you think that is a nice 15 minute trek.

 

[Wilmslow Road]

Have you ever tried walking from the City stadium to town at 11pm when there's not a match on? I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy. Good luck if you think that is a nice 15 minute tre

 

[chesterbells]

It has a hint of brutalism about it. Not the most aesthetically pleasing style but an extremely space effective one.

I really find it quite hard to believe that grown men are whinging about a building "potentially" being matt grey.

Oh the humanity! Not matt grey!! Won't somebody think of the children!

Oh, I love a bit of brutalism, I do. Sick of this wishy washy post modern shite. Bring back the pebble dash!

 

[jrb]

Have you ever tried walking from the City stadium to town at 11pm when there's not a match on? I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy. Good luck if you think that is a nice 15 minute trek.

TBH no I haven't. But I didn't post I think it's a 'nice' 15 minute trek.(at 11pm)

Until the Etihad Campus is fully developed, and the city centre continues to expand further East into Holt Town, and on into Beswick, the area around the Etihad Campus will remain somewhere most people wouldn't really need to go to unless they lived or worked around there. Saying that, the city centre expansion and the gentrification of that side of the city centre creeps ever closer to the Etihad Campus.

Brunswick Place - Bradford Road.



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[Marvin]

Sorry but don't agree with that. The external appearance is vital for the surrounding area. Another factory looking building does nothing, no matter how good inside. I've seen the impact of the FD Leeds arena on that part of the city. They're building iconic high rise buildings around it. The building looks fantastic and attracts all sorts of coverage when it changes colours etc. Big opportunity missed in my book. View attachment 29560

The Etihad stadium, as a venue that's welcoming to fans, needs critical mass.