Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[gouldybob]

collar site?

Old proposal was using the Athletics arena. It's not going to be a regular RL ground so the could just stick a stand on the side away from our ground, but if it does have a 4G pitch as well it could go on the carpark that the Covid testing tents are on

 

[kun]

Old proposal was using the Athletics arena. It's not going to be a regular RL ground so the could just stick a stand on the side away from our ground

Then where does the building go? or are they buying the building that is already there?

 

[crazyg]

Sorry meant Cologne to Dortmund which is 62 miles and does only take 21 minutes. The time is from the German timetable. The trains there can achieve almost 200 mph. Everywhere in Europe seems to have high-speed rail even poorer regions of Eastern Europe.

Chatting to a French guy when on holiday in France who was, like @mat, a train driver. The train he drove was a TGV for the SNCF. He said that he had to apologise to the passengers over the tannoy after a trip from Paris to Marseille, around 750 kilometres, for being 4 minutes EARLY! Apparently, it takes just under 3.5 hours for the journey. The local trains I've been on are always clean and punctual.

 

[mat]

Chatting to a French guy when on holiday in France who was, like @mat, a train driver. The train he drove was a TGV for the SNCF. He said that he had to apologise to the passengers over the tannoy after a trip from Paris to Marseille, around 750 kilometres, for being 4 minutes EARLY! Apparently, it takes just under 3.5 hours for the journey. The local trains I've been on are always clean and punctual.

Being early is a cardinal sin on the railway.

 

[bluwes]

Also worth remembering that German trains are relatively new, modern and clean - in the UK most new trains are delivered to the South East and we see 30 year old former Thameslink trains - classed as life expired in the SE reallocated to the North West. Hell ! the government has even been trying to reallocate former underground trains (D Stock) to anyone outside the SE.

Don't they usually end up on the Isle of Wight

 

[nmc]

Don't they usually end up on the Isle of Wight

Yes, they dump old underground trains on the I of W Railway But with the D stock itshad Diesel engines added (COP26 take note) and is destined for large parts of the network outside the SE - where of course the same stock was considered ‘life expired’ and needed to be replaced.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Chatting to a French guy when on holiday in France who was, like @mat, a train driver. The train he drove was a TGV for the SNCF. He said that he had to apologise to the passengers over the tannoy after a trip from Paris to Marseille, around 750 kilometres, for being 4 minutes EARLY! Apparently, it takes just under 3.5 hours for the journey. The local trains I've been on are always clean and punctual.

Copied this from the Guardian this week.

A train driver in Japan is suing his employer after it docked ¥43 (28p) from his wages over a one-minute delay that he claims was not his fault.

West Japan Railway Company (JR West) said it withheld the tiny sum by applying its strict “no work, no pay” principle over the incident, which occurred in June last year.

The driver, who has not been named by Japanese media, is seeking the ¥43 plus ¥13 overtime, as well as ¥2.2m damages for the mental anguish caused by his employer’s decision, according to the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper.

The case is a reminder of the Japanese railway network’s enviable record on punctuality, with even very brief delays prompting repeated apologies to passengers

 

[LongsightM13]

Yes, they dump old underground trains on the I of W Railway But with the D stock itshad Diesel engines added (COP26 take note) and is destined for large parts of the network outside the SE - where of course the same stock was considered ‘life expired’ and needed to be replaced.

Still shudder at the memory of Northern Rail’s ‘Pacers’. Dirty, smelly, noisy and uncomfortable

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

You say that, it’s also a route out of Stockport :-)

very true

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

This has been on the cards for a long time, the council wanted to establish a all sports centre of excellence at the campus unfortunately the plans took a big hit when Manchester Metro University pulled out

New national rugby league centre to be built at the Etihad Campus

The Rugby Football League’s headquarters will relocate from Leeds to the campus near the Blues’ ground

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Manchester Rangers were playing at the athletics stadium until they dissolved for the 2nd time recently

 

[Manchester33]

Tram - Manchester Piccadilly to Manchester Airport / One hour one minute / £4.60
Train - Manchester Piccadilly to Manchester Airport / 16 minutes / £3.50.

You can get to Liverpool in half the time from Victoria.

I've said it so many times it's just a vanity project. For moving people around the city and suburbs it's expensive and rubbish.

I think the Met could work really well if we had a fully integrated public transport pricing structure (that Andy Burnham has been promising for years). If you could buy one cheap ticket and any form of public transport within one day buses and trams would be far busier.

If I solely relied on public transport for City I could either get a bus to the met stop (paying for both separately and journey takes over an hour for around 7/8 miles) or I can get a bus to a train station into picc then either walk or get the met... that would cost over £12 easily. I might as well get an uber!

 

[LongsightM13]

Then where does the building go? or are they buying the building that is already there?

Think it’s further down past Mary D’s opposite the academy

 

[bluesmith]

I think the Met could work really well if we had a fully integrated public transport pricing structure (that Andy Burnham has been promising for years). If you could buy one cheap ticket and any form of public transport within one day buses and trams would be far busier.

If I solely relied on public transport for City I could either get a bus to the met stop (paying for both separately and journey takes over an hour for around 7/8 miles) or I can get a bus to a train station into picc then either walk or get the met... that would cost over £12 easily. I might as well get an uber!

There is a tickets that covers all 3 but you can only use it off peak its £10 for a day.

 

[Manchester33]

There is a tickets that covers all 3 but you can only use it off peak its £10 for a day.

Fair enough, I didn't know that.

Even still, £10 a day is ridiculous. You could charge that in London but not here. It should be capped at £5 otherwise it's pointless.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Yes, they dump old underground trains on the I of W Railway But with the D stock itshad Diesel engines added (COP26 take note) and is destined for large parts of the network outside the SE - where of course the same stock was considered ‘life expired’ and needed to be replaced.

The latest rumour is that Rossendale council have hinted that they want to run old underground trains on the East Lancs Railway from Bury to Rawtenstall as an hourly service, they even released bare proposals for it. Unfortunately it seems they forgot to discuss this with ELR who actually run the heritage trains on there as they released a statement which was basically, WTF?

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I think the Met could work really well if we had a fully integrated public transport pricing structure (that Andy Burnham has been promising for years). If you could buy one cheap ticket and any form of public transport within one day buses and trams would be far busier.

If I solely relied on public transport for City I could either get a bus to the met stop (paying for both separately and journey takes over an hour for around 7/8 miles) or I can get a bus to a train station into picc then either walk or get the met... that would cost over £12 easily. I might as well get an uber!

Yes, this is the problem for many in the GM region, it really annoys me. The only way to get direct to the Etihad for me is to change buses and while I can do that, it makes it a 2 hour journey for about a £5, or 1 hour bus+tram at £10. Not to mention the 20 minute walk to the bus stop I have at the start. It's 9 miles for goodness sake, it's no wonder we end up driving.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Copied this from the Guardian this week.

A train driver in Japan is suing his employer after it docked ¥43 (28p) from his wages over a one-minute delay that he claims was not his fault.

West Japan Railway Company (JR West) said it withheld the tiny sum by applying its strict “no work, no pay” principle over the incident, which occurred in June last year.

The driver, who has not been named by Japanese media, is seeking the ¥43 plus ¥13 overtime, as well as ¥2.2m damages for the mental anguish caused by his employer’s decision, according to the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper.

The case is a reminder of the Japanese railway network’s enviable record on punctuality, with even very brief delays prompting repeated apologies to passengers

The fastest Japanese passenger train (Maglef) travels at 268 mph. They are testing a new train at present that has reached 357mph. The average speed for trains on the Manchester to Leeds route is around 30mph. That is how far we are behind advanced nations. It is a national scandal.

 

[Spanishbob]

The fastest Japanese passenger train (Maglef) travels at 268 mph. They are testing a new train at present that has reached 357mph. The average speed for trains on the Manchester to Leeds route is around 30mph. That is how far we are behind advanced nations. It is a national scandal.

Got faster trains here in spain. It’s a disgrace.

 

[crazyg]

The latest rumour is that Rossendale council have hinted that they want to run old underground trains on the East Lancs Railway from Bury to Rawtenstall as an hourly service, they even released bare proposals for it. Unfortunately it seems they forgot to discuss this with ELR who actually run the heritage trains on there as they released a statement which was basically, WTF?

I'd prefer to go on Thomas the Tank Engine.

 

[Newman Noggs]

The fastest Japanese passenger train (Maglef) travels at 268 mph. They are testing a new train at present that has reached 357mph. The average speed for trains on the Manchester to Leeds route is around 30mph. That is how far we are behind advanced nations. It is a national scandal.

Ah, but anything faster than 30mph would be deemed "too risky" in today's climate.