Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

jrb said:
Personally I’d prefer City and their architects to tie it in.

The 2nd tier is already at a good and acceptable angle, unlike the much steeper SSL3 tier, so tieing the current NSL2 tier and proposed NSL2 tier expansion in would make more sense(to me), if the concourses and spaces(souvenier shop, etc?) below can be configured properly within the expanded NS. Do you get what I mean? :-?
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Yeah I get what you mean and it's possible to do it so long as it works with the angles to the pitch from the top of the tier. You could change the gradient, within reason but I'm not sure what health and safety regs are around that. You wouldn't typically want the stairs to change steepness partway up - I'm pretty sure there are regulations around that sort of thing these days, to avoid accidents. But the architects will know the regs and what they're working to.

As I've said before, talk has gathered pace recently - whether that's because of the World Cup looming or because news is on the horizon is yet to be seen. For an application of this scale we're talking several months. It has probably been through several pre-application discussions already to speed up determination but it can't be long before they announce plans so that they can crack on when the Arena is completed.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Surely it would make more sense to have standing in level 2 - ie a large home end. Otherwise are they going to move people currently in the family stand?

There would be little to no point in having a standing section in the family stand as no one will stand up.
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The under used / misused ‘Family’ Stand will not be in level 1 but I don’t know where or if it will be relocated.

Is there truly need for a family stand ?
 
Gone for a Burton said:
The under used / misused ‘Family’ Stand will not be in level 1 but I don’t know where or if it will be relocated.

Is there truly need for a family stand ?
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Some parents might feel more comfortable taking their kids to a less intense environment. The kiosks etc are kid friendly as well etc.
 
LEXSTARproject said:
What was that for? The stadium just now @jrb
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supercity88 said:
Yeah I get what you mean and it's possible to do it so long as it works with the angles to the pitch from the top of the tier. You could change the gradient, within reason but I'm not sure what health and safety regs are around that. You wouldn't typically want the stairs to change steepness partway up - I'm pretty sure there are regulations around that sort of thing these days, to avoid accidents. But the architects will know the regs and what they're working to.

As I've said before, talk has gathered pace recently - whether that's because of the World Cup looming or because news is on the horizon is yet to be seen. For an application of this scale we're talking several months. It has probably been through several pre-application discussions already to speed up determination but it can't be long before they announce plans so that they can crack on when the Arena is completed.
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Good to know.

Thanks for the interesting updates.
 
supercity88 said:
Yeah I get what you mean and it's possible to do it so long as it works with the angles to the pitch from the top of the tier. You could change the gradient, within reason but I'm not sure what health and safety regs are around that. You wouldn't typically want the stairs to change steepness partway up - I'm pretty sure there are regulations around that sort of thing these days, to avoid accidents. But the architects will know the regs and what they're working to.

As I've said before, talk has gathered pace recently - whether that's because of the World Cup looming or because news is on the horizon is yet to be seen. For an application of this scale we're talking several months. It has probably been through several pre-application discussions already to speed up determination but it can't be long before they announce plans so that they can crack on when the Arena is completed.
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100% this. There will be no extending the 2nd tier at a steeper angle. It will have to be a new 3rd tier above it or the existing 2nd tier gets replaced by one big 2nd tier.
 
Centurions said:
100% this. There will be no extending the 2nd tier at a steeper angle. It will have to be a new 3rd tier above it or the existing 2nd tier gets replaced by one big 2nd tier.
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Nooooooooooo!! We love our front row NS2 seats. I am going to chain myself to mine in protest if they propose kicking us out for some silly extension. Just mirror the South Stand (great for OCD), leave us where we are and build behind us.
 
HelloCity said:
I don’t like that we’re not as good.
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Neither do I, but it’s the truth as we know.

I went to the CL game not long after the New White Hart Lane stadium opened. I was blown away be it internally. Externally it’s not that impressive. The away fans section around the corner of level 1 Isn’t great. The views of the match from there are pretty naff.

Saying that, we’re comparing chalk and cheese to be honest. The Etihad was originally a part built athletics stadium that has been turned into a football stadium and expanded bit by bit over the years. The new White Hart Lane stadium is a £1bill purpose built football stadium.

TBF to City they have created some of the best corporate and hospitality spaces and venues in the PL.(the Tunnel Club, etc) Probably comparable to what Spurs can offer. Miles better than what United, Liverpool, Arsenal, etc can offer. City could do with spending more money on the rest of the concourses on every level and improving them like they’ve done with the new bar at the back of the South stand. City have also tried to improve the Etihad stadium externally as best they can, albeit with City related pictures and logos. The South stand industrial look doesn’t look great.(plant, vents, etc showing)

pride in battle said:
I don't understand this comment @jrb the stadium development compared to Spurs ?
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jrb said:
Neither do I, but it’s the truth as we know.

I went to the CL game not long after the New White Hart Lane stadium opened. I was blown away be it internally. Externally it’s not that impressive. The away fans section around the corner of level 1 Isn’t great. The views of the match from there are pretty naff.

Saying that, we’re comparing chalk and cheese to be honest. The Etihad was originally a part built athletics stadium that has been turned into a football stadium and expanded bit by bit over the years. The new White Hart Lane stadium is a £1bill purpose built football stadium.

TBF to City they have created some of the best corporate and hospitality spaces and venues in the PL.(the Tunnel Club, etc) Probably comparable to what Spurs can offer. Miles better than what United, Liverpool, Arsenal, etc can offer. City could do with spending more money on the rest of the concourses on every level and improving them like they’ve done with the new bar at the back of the South stand. City have also tried to improve the Etihad stadium externally as best they can, albeit with City related pictures and logos. The South stand industrial look doesn’t look great.(plant, vents, etc showing)



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Cadgrange are absolutely delighted to report that we have been influential in stretching the boundaries of timber based doorset fire testing. Earlier this week we co-sponsored an FD90 fire test at Warrington Fire on a double action double doorset assembly for use within the Concourse areas to the new BAM Construct UK Co-op Live Arena project in Manchester.

The project functionality required double action equal leaves at an overall width of 2.5m fitted with concealed transom closers, glazing and a newly developed concealed drop-down threshold seal. The test specimen achieved 108 minutes prior to failure which is a very healthy 20% performance overrun on the required 90 minutes.

Prior to fire testing the specimen was also smoke leakage tested to BS 476 31:1 and successfully achieved the required performance standard.

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@jrb the spurs' interiors were done by Jump Studios they are working on COOP live at the moment

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I agree with you about the inside of the concourses etc, Spurs have shown the way it should be done, and I agree also that the Spurs stadium from the outside does not look good neither does CIty. Football stadiums are not just stadiums anymore they are districts, look at Wembley look at all the new stadiums coming online in the next couple of years
 
LEXSTARproject said:
@jrb the spurs' interiors were done by Jump Studios they are working on COOP live at the moment

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I agree with you about the inside of the concourses etc, Spurs have shown the way it should be done, and I agree also that the Spurs stadium from the outside does not look good neither does CIty. Football stadiums are not just stadiums anymore they are districts, look at Wembley look at all the new stadiums coming online in the next couple of years
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A tiny bar for 3k away fans? As bad as Bolton or Hull.
 
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More information coming out about the NYCFC staduim its not just a staduim that is getting built it a whole new district, sounds firmilar to what is happening in Manchester

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kippax_blueboy said:
The walls and flooring on the Ethiad concourses need upgrading not painted breeze block and concrete. Flooring like they have in hospitals and plastered painted walls.
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Reminds of Nou Camp which was built in 1954, not like City which moved to the Etihad in 2003 the internal of the stadium is shocking in some parts, but Spurs have shown the way for internal football stadiums should be done



 
LEXSTARproject said:
Reminds of Nou Camp which was built in 1954, not like City which moved to the Etihad in 2003 the internal of the stadium is shocking in some parts, but Spurs have shown the way for internal football stadiums should be done



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Just for clarity the internals of the Etihad are still amongst the best in England and aren’t even close to being like Camp Nou. When people say they’re unhappy with them, they more mean they want them to be the absolute best rather than it being because they’re awful.
 
kippax_blueboy said:
The walls and flooring on the Ethiad concourses need upgrading not painted breeze block and concrete. Flooring like they have in hospitals and plastered painted walls.
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Plastered walls will need repairs every game - damage, accidental or deliberate, is too easy to occur, especially with crowds cf hospitals.

Almost Any surface other than concrete will be susceptible to noticeable damage. It only takes one idiot to make something that looks smart and fresh , to be jarring and an eyesore. There’s bus shelters all round Manchester that can testify to that. Let alone the tales on the football specials thread about the trashing of trains. It’s a big bug bear of mine - damage to property. As a kid travelling on trains in the 70’s/80’s with slashed seats, broken bits etc, it was a uncomprehending’why’ :-(
 
LEXSTARproject said:
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More information coming out about the NYCFC staduim its not just a staduim that is getting built it a whole new district, sounds firmilar to what is happening in Manchester

www.nycfc.com

Mayor Adams Unveils Vision for Willets Point Transformation, Generational 100 Percent Affordable Housing Project, Privately Financed Soccer Stadium | New York City FC

- As Part of Private-Public Partnership, 2021 MLS Cup Champions NYCFC Will Fully Finance and Build New York’s First Professional Soccer-Specific Stadium - 2,500 Affordable Homes Coming to Willets Point, NYC’s Largest 100-Percent Affordable New Housing Project in 40 Years, With Accelerated...
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That is truly amazing and would not have happened without us. Ickle old City, transforming iconic cities across the planet. :-)
 
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