EU - In or Out. How will it affect City and Football

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Okay thought I would start a thread on this. Not top of my list for the way I will vote but it may have an influence on many of our choices. I would ask the debate is kept to impact on footie or the Mods will probably take it off topic.

My first thought are below but they raise a few questions.

1: You may know I along with a few others raised the case with Msr Dupont re ffp. To take a case to the EU courts you have to be a European Citizen. I am expecting an update on the whole case soon but I assume we will not be able to continue if we leave the EU.

2: Again on the FFP. If European law does not apply to us I am not sure what protection in law we would have as a club going forward. It also may allow the Premier league to introduce more draconian rules falling within UK law. One would assume much of anti competition law would remain the same but you nvever know.

3. Being out of the EU will mean non UK players will have to obtain work permits. It may mean we only see the best players arrive but will it affect the overall quality of the UK. Great for young English players but what will the PL think

4. Not many English players play abroad as it is. This will make it a lot harder for those that wish to.


A brief starting point - sure there is much more to add.
 
Just doing some in-depth research on this - okay, Wikipedia - and there's a difference between the EU and the European Economic Area (EEA). Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein aren't members of the EU and neither are Switzerland but are either a member of the EEA or have an agreement. The EEA dictates the rules on free movement. Not sure if some of the Balkan states have similar.

I guess the UK will be looking to do the same, so it seems the movement of players will be largely unchanged. This begs the question though, why is the movement of people (immigration) such a hot topic. Surely even if we leave the EU, we'd have to leave the EEA to be able to control the borders. So are we voting to leave the EU and EEA, or just EU?

The issues with the courts will be more interesting. As we were a member during the alleged offence/activity, I'm guessing they will still hear out cases as if we still are. Not that I think it matters too much for City now.
 
Okay thought I would start a thread on this. Not top of my list for the way I will vote but it may have an influence on many of our choices. I would ask the debate is kept to impact on footie or the Mods will probably take it off topic.

My first thought are below but they raise a few questions.

1: You may know I along with a few others raised the case with Msr Dupont re ffp. To take a case to the EU courts you have to be a European Citizen. I am expecting an update on the whole case soon but I assume we will not be able to continue if we leave the EU.

2: Again on the FFP. If European law does not apply to us I am not sure what protection in law we would have as a club going forward. It also may allow the Premier league to introduce more draconian rules falling within UK law. One would assume much of anti competition law would remain the same but you nvever know.

3. Being out of the EU will mean non UK players will have to obtain work permits. It may mean we only see the best players arrive but will it affect the overall quality of the UK. Great for young English players but what will the PL think

4. Not many English players play abroad as it is. This will make it a lot harder for those that wish to.


A brief starting point - sure there is much more to add.


It won't have any impact.
 
It shouldn't affect City or football at all. EU commercial law is simply a restatement of what it was in EU member states before "closer union". Actions brought before the ECJ argue that FFP is a violation of EU laws to protect the rights of investors. Ever since 1945 at the latest law in the UK has taken the view that freedom of investment and the severest penalties for cartel activity (eg the penalties opposed on those airlines which tried to squeeze Freddie Laker out of business) have been held to be essential to economic growth. This is unlikely to change since all member states share this belief. In fact, I suspect David Cameron would argue that one of his aims has been to protect the ability of the City of London to compete in face of any eventual threat from the euro zone. The alacrity with which he shot to the Etihad to share the selfie with Sergio and the Chinese president suggests he might like to see more Chinese (and Abu Dhabi) investment in the club and our nation. David Gill beware.

I think that Cameron's agreement doesn't alter the right of EU citizens to seek or find work in the UK, simply their entitlement/access to benefits and the wages paid by City mean that our players don't generally need benefits to earn a "living" wage!!!!
 

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