EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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George Hannah said:
interesting the big BBC led with her staged defection rather than the JCB Chairman supporting the outers.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36485985
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Striped suit and striped shirt with a hankie in his pocket - FFS no wonder they didn't lead with that it would be Remain gold. Could you look anymore like you are yearning for an era of Britain that died decades ago
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
She now supports "staying".....actions speak louder than words....by swapping she is saying she made a mistake...

"Dr Wollaston defended her decision to change camps saying "nobody wants politicians who make the wrong decision" and it would be "far worse" not to change her mind"
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She now supports staying... after saying she fears what the EU will become, how much of a political juggernaut it will be and how much influence it will have over peoples lives?

You buy that? Really? I know you've been deprived of informative reasons having listened to the In campaigns rhetoric but, REALLY!?!
 
Monkfish said:
Your opinions are laughable, but I'm banned form laughing?
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What was it about saying a long term undecided MP has revealed she's chosen to support an opinion despite giving the impression she supported the opposing arguement was so humourous to you?

Small things amuse small minds?
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
As I've just mentioned to BigJoe.......I copied and pasted the comments......and cant find an option to reduce front size on bluemoon.....I felt it was worth adding to the thread so didnt want to not post it......come on guys, if you honest.....some just close their minds becuase it supports staying anyway.......but thats a side issue...I genuinely didnt know how to change the font size or I would have....can we now move on!....If someone can tell me where the option is, that would be a big help......maybe then you guys wont misunderstand me as shouting!; ) thank you
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Its classified information so you will just have to keep shouting at us little people you patronising git ;-)

She had already come out and said the 350 mill was a load of nonsense in the way it was framed. Maybe not the first to travel the road to Damascus...

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Monkfish said:
Your opinions are laughable, but I'm banned from laughing?

No mention of Boz? Avoiding that point?
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I'll address it.

Boris is a moron. It's a good job that I don't support 'Boris', I support leaving the EU. If you're choosing your view on the EU based on the personalities that hold differing views you're doing it wrong.

Oh christ you have been haven't you... oh mate, no, that's not how you make an informed decision!
 
Monkfish said:
JCB chairman wanting leave isn't news at all is it, he has been advocating that for many years - why would that be a news story today? Why is that interesting?
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Because of the complete lack of any other credible business leaders or institutions campaigning to leave?

It really is pathetic when in comparison to the support the remain camp has. The leave lobby is bassically about 1 third of the tory party a few others from the world of politics and a handfull of people in the private sector and the ghost of Winston Churchill.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
She now supports staying... after saying she fears what the EU will become, how much of a political juggernaut it will be and how much influence it will have over peoples lives?

You buy that? Really? I know you've been deprived of informative reasons having listened to the In campaigns rhetoric but, REALLY!?!
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deprived of informative reasons?......How can you say you have informative reason mate?.....no one knows a plan for what will happen after we leave and no one knows what EU agreements will take place or when they will happen...a hardly call that informative reason for voting out.....the only thing you do know is that you running away from the EU......and if that good enough reason to risk the economy(which is what alot of people are saying will happen ins and out!) then I wont knock you for that mate....thats your opinion and respect it!
 
AlgarveBlu said:
Its classified information so you will just have to keep shouting at us little people you patronising git ;-)

She had already come out and said the 350 mill was a load of nonsense in the way it was framed. Maybe not the first to travel the road to Damascus...

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Can you please not shout its hurting my ears mate!!;) on a serious note......genuine question....can anyone tell me how to reduce font size when you copy to the thread?...thank you!
 
BigJoe#1 said:
You don't know who they are, yet you are prepared to vote for them....?
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Yes, because I am not voting for THEM, I am voting for policies, the people come and go.
I know Cameron will be replaced soon enough, and I expect countless numbers of his foreign counterparts will go too.
I know that we place our commissioner into the European Commission, just as every other member state does - I don't know these people, and I don't feel Io have their CV readily available, but does that I shouldn't vote to be 'in'?

I don't dismiss them glibly as 'can't be trusted' - I have no reason to distrust them any more than I might with our own politicians, but I do know I actually value some of the privacy policies and standing up to large corporations, and I value the improved employment rights they've initiated via their directives - more so so that our own successive governments have. I trust those policies more than I trust ours.

I don't care who is delivering the policies.

p.s. I also like that they pushed for a 2 year guarantee of products when our own still wanted 1, and I like they they pushed for mobiles phones to start using a common mini-usb connector and for mobile roaming charges to be reduced (an absolute scandal)
 
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Gaudion M said:
Because of the complete lack of any other credible business leaders or institutions campaigning to leave?

It really is pathetic when in comparison to the support the remain camp has. The leave lobby is bassically about 1 third of the tory party a few others from the world of politics and a handfull of people in the private sector and the ghost of Winston Churchill.
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Winston Churchill was incredibly pro European for his time would be Ken Clarke in his pro euro prime by today's standards, maybe the go host of a bulldog called winston?
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
deprived of informative reasons?......How can you say you have informative reason mate?.....no one knows a plan for what will happen after we leave and no one knows what EU agreements will take place or when they will happen...a hardly call that informative reason for voting out.....the only thing you do know is that you running away from the EU......and if that good enough reason to risk the economy(which is what alot of people are saying will happen ins and out!) then I wont knock you for that mate....thats your opinion and respect it!
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I know that if we leave the EU we head into the unknown.

I'm fully aware of this, the difference is I do not fear it. Correct there is no plan at present if Britain leaves the EU because to date no country has left the EU before, so on the same basis that the leave campaign cannot predict what will happen to our economy, neither can the In campaign, yet they are the ones who claim they can whilst most leave campaigners are honest in saying "we don't know what will happen", but rather than listen to all the potential prospects, the discussion has been shouted down as 'indecisive, misleading, unknown!" as they are some sort of negatives.

All life is full of risk, a vote to stay in is a vote for status quo, a vote for leave is the chance, an opportunity to make something better. It could go tits up, it might not, but I don't 'fear' that, i'm concerned about this status quo and where its currently headed, announced by the EU themselves. You're being told the world will end if we leave, leave is stating we have a chance to build a new one if we do.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
Winston Churchill was incredibly pro European for his time would be Ken Clarke in his pro euro prime by today's standards, maybe the go host of a bulldog called winston?
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Yes, Churchill WAS pro-European.

At no point did he EVER state that the UK should or would be a part of it. He saw a United Europe as an end to European Imperialism and contintental war (given that the UK had been involved in not one but three major conflicts in the space of 150 years.) He wanted Europe to stop fighting within itself, put an end to their empire building and to then trade with the British Empire.

Many people tend to use Churchill quotes completely out of context.
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
Can you please not shout its hurting my ears mate!!;) on a serious note......genuine question....can anyone tell me how to reduce font size when you copy to the thread?...thank you!
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Above the text box you'll see B (bold) I (italic) U (Underlined) A (Text colour) A: (Text size)

Just highlight the entire text once you've copied it and change via those options. I did it with yours before.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
I know that if we leave the EU we head into the unknown.

I'm fully aware of this, the difference is I do not fear it. Correct there is no plan at present if Britain leaves the EU because to date no country has left the EU before, so on the same basis that the leave campaign cannot predict what will happen to our economy, neither can the In campaign, yet they are the ones who claim they can whilst most leave campaigners are honest in saying "we don't know what will happen", but rather than listen to all the potential prospects, the discussion has been shouted down as 'indecisive, misleading, unknown!" as they are some sort of negatives.

All life is full of risk, a vote to stay in is a vote for status quo, a vote for leave is the chance, an opportunity to make something better. It could go tits up, it might not, but I don't 'fear' that, i'm concerned about this status quo and where its currently headed, announced by the EU themselves. You're being told the world will end if we leave, leave is stating we have a chance to build a new one if we do.
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I agree mate...and appreciate that you admit that there is "unknown and risks" to leaving also....it will just come down to how much we each believe we will be risking by staying or leaving!;) and thats where individual opinion kicks in. cheers..
 
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