Everton (H) Post-Match Thread

[m7mcfc]

Hard work but the lads won.

 

[the plasterer]

Just looking at Evertons goal again.....Bravo has a perfectly good pass available to his right, so he puts it in an area where thère are three attackers. Brainless.

Bravo has a perfectly good huge field in front of him to put the ball 70 yards away from danger, so he puts it an area where there are three attackers. Brainless
**edited for accuracy**

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

F**k me Neverton are shit. Very comfortable win despite their goal. Bravo’s error but we still should have defended it better. Shocking officials, offside that weren’t being called and vice versa. CL should have seen red and not sure why VAR didn’t look at it. Penalties on Mahrez and Foden not given and Mina should have second yellow for a snide late challenge on Jesus. Job done and good to see Silva back, Sergio gets another rest and Sterling at last has a rest as does Walker. Wrap KDB in cotton wool for the cup tie and we should also have Ederson back.

 

[Marvin]

F**k me Neverton are shit. Very comfortable win despite their goal. Bravo’s error but we still should have defended it better. Shocking officials, offside that weren’t being called and vice versa. CL should have seen red and not sure why VAR didn’t look at it. Penalties on Mahrez and Foden not given and Mina should have second yellow for a snide late challenge on Jesus. Job done and good to see Silva back, Sergio gets another rest and Sterling at last has a rest as does Walkef. Wrap KDB in cotton wool for the cup tie and we should also have Ederson back.

David Silva did a perfect job for us when he came on. A lesson in ball retention.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

He still has the odd moment of WTF but he was ok today and has been for a few games bar the error. His positional play at times still needs work.

It might be part of the plan! If he has us thinking WTF, it might lead to the opposition thinking WTF, and they momentarily go belly up!

 

[Shrimp]

After scoring his goal last night Richarlison seemed to make a beeline for the touchline and have an interaction with one of our ballboys. Did anyone at the match notice this and anything earlier that may have prompted it?

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

A foul (or the vast majority of those type of decisions) are always going to be subjective. Just because the VAR officials agree with the ref on the pitch doesnt make them wrong or more importantly the process has failed......just cause i think it was a red card (and others think that) doesnt mean we are correct..
On some days it will be given - on others not.....depending upon the official, depending on possibly what the payer has commited foul wise on the pitch before (at least for the on field ref) - VAR just happened to agree witht he ref on this point that it wasnt a sending off...I think they were wrong and it was a sending off

Human beings will have differing views of the exact same incident....a foul/sending off isnt a black and white decision....offside is closer to this (though the rules are abit fucked up with what body part etc)

So you still don’t understand?

Why have a process that in essence, is failing to meet its goal? You can spout all you like about ‘subjectivity’, you clearly don’t understand the principle...For this to be effective, In any experiment, there has to be a collation of data that shows no bias, what is actually happening, and is clear from the data, is that not only are certain clubs getting favourable decisions but also the whole objectivity of VAR is being ignored...

The sensible thing would be to see out the season, however, what isn’t dropping for some people is that the damage has already been applied, Liverpool, for example, could get the next 20 decisions turned over, it won’t impact where the title ends up but it will sugarcoat the facts with the media reinforcing the agenda ‘they did it the hard way’..

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

it happened in the second half so can’t blame em for not discussing it before it happened :-)

Dont be so pedantic ;) lol

 

[Marvin]

Another 3 at the back with Rodri playing well. Suits his style.

Will it work against sides who have a go?

Only 2-1 but that was a very poor performance from Everton against a reserve City side. City bossed that game. I don't think we should read too much into a game that came at the end of a physically draining run of games in the league. You could see though how well City's players are coached given that players who haven't played many games effortlessly slot into a system we rarely play competitively.

Some opposition fans say that Guardiola is just a chequebook manager and yet his teams almost always look like they are very well drilled.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Not a penalty, on Mahrez, in my honest opinion. The penalty on Foden is a clear as day. Not even a discussion about it.

 

[oakiecokie]

Hello matron, my name's Josep.

Would that be Frietzl or Guardiola ?

 

[Franknorgrovesnephew]

Everton manager saying pep shouldn't have said that it was a red card lol open your eyes you idiot it was a red all day long and a dangerous tackle at that..

 

[northendenton]

After scoring his goal last night Richarlison seemed to make a beeline for the touchline and have an interaction with one of our ballboys. Did anyone at the match notice this and anything earlier that may have prompted it?

Yes seen that and I thought the ball boy was not too enamoured and kind of slapped him away.

 

[paulc]

Very good team performance yesterday. Really impressed with how Garcia is settling in, reads the game so well & his timing of interceptions is excellent. Him & Laporte could be a natural long term CB partnership for us. Couple of cup games coming up to keep rotating & keeping players fresh & then also minutes to players like Foden, Garcia, Cancelo & Zinchenko. 3 Cup finals to get to.

 

[Kenward Garg]

Liverpool even played Henderson at centre back recently. No way they do that without Pep already introducing it to the English game.

It’s an over used word these days but he’s a genius.

 

[stonerblue]

Very good team performance yesterday. Really impressed with how Garcia is settling in, reads the game so well & his timing of interceptions is excellent. Him & Laporte could be a natural long term CB partnership for us. Couple of cup games coming up to keep rotating & keeping players fresh & then also minutes to players like Foden, Garcia, Cancelo & Zinchenko. 3 Cup finals to get to.

Garcia should be in til the end of the season. Very promising.

 

[MCBlueFan]

Good games from Mendy and Garcia. Overall though we were so-so; Everton were terrible.

Three at the back appears to have given us defensive solidity, but based on how poorly Everton played it's not clear how much better our defense actually is in this formation.

 

[MCBlueFan]

Everton manager saying pep shouldn't have said that it was a red card lol open your eyes you idiot it was a red all day long and a dangerous tackle at that..

I thought that it was a clear red - Dominic Calvert-Lewin made no real attempt to get the ball, ran full speed towards Fernandinho, jumps into the tackle, legs spread wide and studs showing, completely out-of-control. Moreover, I thought that VAR should have over-ruled the on-field yellow card, instead, changing the card to red.

Such tackles need to be punished severely - otherwise, they'll occur with enough frequency to result in unnecessary long-term and perhaps career ending injury.

 

[blueinsa]

Everton manager saying pep shouldn't have said that it was a red card lol open your eyes you idiot it was a red all day long and a dangerous tackle at that..

As clear a red card as you will ever see.

So much so VAR didn't even review it.

 

[manimanc]

Calling @ID70 and @davealvers to the post match thread.

Only 32 pages, quick hurry before the nobheads start posting.