Everton Thread - 2021/22

[FightLikeAGirl]

I, for one, do not wish for them to go down. I used to watch them under Moyes, I respected most of their players (not just for their talent but for their loyalty as well), I liked their style -and they did have an identity on the pitch back them. I would add that their fans do not deserve this shit -and I won't even bother imagining what it's like living close to those particular neighbours of theirs. I do wonder, though, how the Evertonian friends participating in this forum feel regarding the points you make in your post, all related to official Everton's policy...

The Moyes team were a likeable side and I got the impression they clicked and genuinely liked each other. This lot are fractured and disjointed.

 

[SWPISHOME]

The Premier League helped them out bigtime 2/3 weeks ago. Why should they be let off the hook for not complying with FFP? They were up in arms trying to get us done a few years back so fuck Everton I hope they go down.

Plus the twats do nothing but have their pants at their ankles for the dippers twice a season.

 

[M18CTID]

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The Premier League helped them out bigtime 2/3 weeks ago. Why should they be let off the hook for not complying with FFP? They were up in arms trying to get us done a few years back so fuck Everton I hope they go down.

Plus the twats do nothing but have their pants at their ankles for the dippers twice a season.

To be fair, Everton weren't one of the letter writers. The Premier League will have to decide how much of their losses can be assigned to the pandemic and how much can't. Just as I'm sure they will for everyone else. To be honest, I think the possibility of them breaching FFP is amongst the least of their worries at the moment.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

I hope Everton stay up mainly as one of my closest friends supports them but they have a distinct whiff of City 82-83 about them. A badly run club that spent loads on average players and dross, the big slide from a seemingly safe position, the spinelessness of too many players, poor morale, a manager that is lost in the headlights, the haplessness etc but they are Everton and they always seem to find a way unlike us - we never stay up if we have to on the last day, in my lifetime anyway! I don't wish them relegation despite it being a hostile trip on too many occasions though not as bad as their odious neighbours.

I would much, much rather backstabbing letter writing Burnley go down. Everton weren't involved in that.

 

[paulchapo]

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The Premier League helped them out bigtime 2/3 weeks ago. Why should they be let off the hook for not complying with FFP? They were up in arms trying to get us done a few years back so fuck Everton I hope they go down.

Plus the twats do nothing but have their pants at their ankles for the dippers twice a season.

We should write a letter and complain.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

What I don't like about Calvert-Lewin constantly being held up in the media as an enlightened, forward thinking fashion leader is the lack of self awareness (bordering on self obsession) it signifies.

To be clear, he (and others) should absolutely wear the clothes they want, free from some of the playground attitudes of the football changing room.

However, it is very clear that he is posing in outlandish outfits in set up photo shoots in order to provoke a reaction and coverage. I highly doubt that he is wearing such stuff around his own home 24/7. (Fair play to him if he is and he's posing in his own gear) So the claim that he is constantly 'being himself' is a bit off. He is enjoying a mild form of the trappings of celebrity, playing a high class version of dressing up. Something which, in itself is the opposite of 'just being yourself'.

Also, it is a tad deluded to think that merely by dressing up in some outlandish gear, you are some sort of ambassador for freedom and good mental health. Its not a new phenomenon. I doubt Dennis Rodman, who would have said the same in the 90s, is someone who we should all look to as a courageous role model who encouraged us all to be our true selves. He was a bit of a dick and the clothes he wore wear neither the cause of that or a mitigation.

The clothes you are 'brave' enough to wear are so, so minor in determining whether you are a positive role model, supportive of good mental health, willing to move away from damaging stereotypes and generally be at peace with yourself and others, that to constantly see Calvert-Lewin held up in the media as the above, precisely because of what he wears in photo shoots, is childlishly simplistic and borderline offensive.

So, yeah, when he buys into it and provides quotes suggesting the same thing, he shows a lack of self awareness of the truly serious things in life, and that's what I don't like about it all. If he does other stuff to support progress and supporting others, than good for him and fair play.

But I wish both the media and him would shut the fuck up about what he wears in photo shoots and trying to claim that this makes him a free thinker. It's got fuck all to do with anything important.

The idea that he thinks he’s doing something new, gets me. Lenny Kraviz, Prince, Boy George, Dennis Rodman, David Beckham, among dozens of other men, were doing this decades ago. Dandies were doing it in the late 1700s! This idea that he’s being brave and doing something unique and original is very shortsighted. There’s probably never been a time in history where the way he’s dressing has ever been so normal and uncontroversial.

What’s controversial about it is that he’s doing almost fuck all on the pitch yet craving attention off it. That’s what all the fuss is about. Not about what he’s wearing, it’s that he’s not doing anything influential or positive on the pitch. If he was banging in the goals or even just playing well or Everton were somewhere in midtable, nobody would be batting an eyelid to what he does off the pitch.

I’ve just Google’d “Dom Calvert-Lewin” to have a look at his goals and assists (with “goals” being the next word I was going to type) and the suggested next word wasn’t “stats” or “goals” or “Everton” or even “football”, it was “fashion”. When you’re a footballer and you’re known more for fashion than you are your football you’ve got to think something isn’t quite right.

He’s scored 0 goals and got 1 assist in his last 683 minutes of football. Newcastle defender, Dan Burn, is doing better that that.

And it’s not even like he’s playing well. I often say stats don’t tell the story in football. There can be players having terrible games or terrible runs of games who have good stats, just as there can be players playing very well but not getting the stats to show it. But Calvert-Lewin isn’t even playing well. He’s not influencing games.

 

[shackattack]

I have heard that they haven't actually signed Dele Alli, in the true sense. I was told they have to start payments if and when he plays 20 games for them - which right now seems unlikely.

Pure Everton that, giving a player a wage for not playing as if he does it will cost them money in the long run. But pay £50 million for Iwobi and play him regularly. Even David Icke would struggle to make sense of that logic

 

[Deleted member 77198]

If they do go down, I think it's ridiculous for any City fan to have sympathy for them.
I'm not just annoyed about that recent nonsense of demanding an apology from Riley over an on-field decision. That was bizarre in all sorts of ways. Petulant that they would ask for it in the first place and downright classless they would talk broodingly in press conferences about the receipt of it afterwards.
The insinuations last year, about City trying to avoid them with a Covid cancellation smacked of undue arrogance (amongst other flaws). Demanding an investigation, if you don't mind. Of all the games cancelled due to Covid across football, I don't recall any other club publicly doing that to another. Suggesting City were scared of them..!? Seriously..!? Jesus wept.
Don't even get me started on the narrative around the Lescott transfer, their participation in the Hateful Eight, going back to the early days of the takeover when one of their directors drunkenly taunted ours after Walton had handed them a victory... or, most damningly of all, going further back again to how they were instrumental in stitching up City and 86 other clubs with the infamous ITV deal...
But they're not Red Scouse, people say. Good for them. Hardly an achievement of outstanding merit that, is it? Especially when they have still treated us with as much contempt - before and after September 2008.
Don't care if they stay up. May as well play them as anyone else. I'd be confident of taking six points off of them, most years, too. Certainly, no sympathy from me if they go down though.

Did City seek or get an apology in 2010 for that ridiculous penalty given against us when Micah Richards pulled Louis Saha’s shirt outside the box but Everton were given a penalty for it?

To be fair to them though, Everton weren’t part of the Spiteful Nine. They were:
United Liverpool Arsenal Spurs Chelsea Leicester Wolves Newcastle and Burnley

 

[shackattack]

The idea that he thinks he’s doing something new, gets me. Lenny Kraviz, Prince, Boy George, Dennis Rodman, David Beckham, among dozens of other men, were doing this decades ago. Dandies were doing it in the late 1700s! This idea that he’s being brave and doing something unique and original is very shortsighted. There’s probably never been a time in history where the way he’s dressing has ever been so normal and uncontroversial.

What’s controversial about it is that he’s doing almost fuck all on the pitch yet craving attention off it. That’s what all the fuss is about. Not about what he’s wearing, it’s that he’s not doing anything influential or positive on the pitch. If he was banging in the goals or even just playing well or Everton were somewhere in midtable, nobody would be batting an eyelid to what he does off the pitch.

I’ve just Google’d “Dom Calvert-Lewin” to have a look at his goals and assists (with ”goals” being the next word I was going to type) and the suggested next word wasn’t “stats” or “goals” or even “football”, it was “fashion”. When you’re a footballer and you’re known more for fashion than you are your football you’ve got to think something isn’t quite right.

He’s scored 0 goals and got 1 assist in his last 683 minutes of football. Newcastle defender, Dan Burn, is doing better that that.

And it’s not even like he’s playing well. I often say stats don’t tell the story in football. There can be players having terrible games or terrible runs of games who have good stats, just as there can be players playing very well but not getting the stats to show it. But Calvert-Lewin isn’t even playing well. He’s not influencing games.

Rumours are that Everton are putting in a bid for Derek Zoolander to partner him up front

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Right, Everton, please bring forth you inner Steven Pienaar from the Toffee Vaults for your game at Anfield in a few weeks.

I’ll forgive all the moaning about us over the years if you just do that for yourselves, and inadvertently for City!



I’m sewing the seed now so it spreads and you’re bang ready for it in a few weeks’ time.