Family Tree

[idahoblues]

Also beware a lot of the Mormon stuff is fanciful at best. They update as they see fit with guesswork.

They use the expression ‘put it on the shelf’ for any questions their kids have that they have no answer to

 

[BimboBob]

They use the expression ‘put it on the shelf’ for any questions their kids have that they have no answer to

Saw my uncle update some records. I asked if he'd cross referenced the stuff he was inputting. He just tapped his head and said "it's all up here."

 

[Healdplace]

That's brilliant Eccles. Thanks for the reply re the census.

As the reply above says the 100 years is still a rule and based on life expectancy which was rarely close to that and to prevent access to people still alive in all but rare instances.

It was very frustrating that unlike the 1911 census that was widely available on the centenary or just after that the 1921 release was given exclusively to one company (Find my Past) who paid a premium to get it that way and then added an extra fee even to those paying their annual subscription to access every 1921 data piece. A lot of peope who subscribed felt cheated to be asked to pay again per single access.

It will be years possibly before any other on line site gets access as there is an exclusivity period built into the fee for 1921.

The only sop was that free access at several major UK sites - Manchester Central Library being one.

The 1939 data is though very useful as explained above as it has updates well into the next decade,
Tells you things like wardens and other key war jobs in each street.

Very hard to follow easily around a city though without access to a map as all based on code numbers on some centralised map of say Manchester.

There are very good free to access on line parish registers for many counties such as Lancashire that add extra detail too which are easy to access out there. I have learned a lot about my relatives from accessing these. Remember the old county boundaries only created Greater Manchester in 1974 so most of the city was in Lancashire in all usable data bases out there with a few parts like Stockport in Cheshire. Only the last 48 years are in the new counties.

Here is the Lancashire one:

Lancashire Births Marriages & Deaths Indexes

Lancashire County Births, Marriage and Deaths Indexes.

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

 

[-dabz-]

My two penneth-
My brother joined ancestry.co.uk and gave me the password so I could look over what he had found....Numerous occasions he thought he had cracked a few leads till I took a closer look and cross referenced a few things...Turns out he'd gone on a few bum steers. Beware. Hours lost. Check it to death people.
You also might be unprepared for what you may find....My mums part of the family spent about a hundred years in and around Kingswinford on their migration from Wales....My great grandad on my dad's side was known as Scotch Jimmy who was a drayman around town who died after whacking his head off a pavement, pissed up I presume. It started out by looking to confirm a link with my gran and a famous Cheshire family of the same name...It lead us to find out she had an illegitimate daughter with the son of a famous Manchester Italian ice cream producer. My dad's older sister that he never knew he had as she died at the age of two.

 

[Healdplace]

It really can get you hooked. I was turned on to it by the first series of Who Do You Think You Are? at the dawn of the internet 20 years ago, Then - ulike the more recent series - they had a section at the end of each episode expaining how they tracked the celebrity's genealogy giving you tips.

The programme has a monthly newsstand magazine too that you might find helpful. Same title - Who Do You Think You Are?

As noted in the post above you can easily go the wrong track if you trust the hints on sites like Ancestry as other users might have been less scrupulous in tracking the right person - especialy with common names. So never just accept a hint check them out and if in doubt reject. ONly accept things that are clearly the right person.

It becomes a fascinating if never ending journey. Two decades later I have a big family tree and kow so much more about many branches than the next to nothing I did when I started. But new leads - new branches in new places always turn up.

Every now and then you find a link to a historical figure or event. That is when it really makes your hurs of checking common surnames seem worthwhile.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I got lucky a few years ago when wanting to search and discovered someone had already done a family tree of my surname and within that was my dad and his roots going back to 1790's.
Me and my dad were able to add to the tree with info that was missing and it is all up to date

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

My two penneth-
My brother joined ancestry.co.uk and gave me the password so I could look over what he had found....Numerous occasions he thought he had cracked a few leads till I took a closer look and cross referenced a few things...Turns out he'd gone on a few bum steers. Beware. Hours lost. Check it to death people.
You also might be unprepared for what you may find....My mums part of the family spent about a hundred years in and around Kingswinford on their migration from Wales....My great grandad on my dad's side was known as Scotch Jimmy who was a drayman around town who died after whacking his head off a pavement, pissed up I presume. It started out by looking to confirm a link with my gran and a famous Cheshire family of the same name...It lead us to find out she had an illegitimate daughter with the son of a famous Manchester Italian ice cream producer. My dad's older sister that he never knew he had as she died at the age of two.

i have only just started on mine.
i have come up with 2 leads for my maternal grandad and great grandad but i can't work out which is correct. my mate has suggested that I just go with one and get on with it. that to me would make the whole thing pointless.
i never knew my paternal grandparents but I have managed to work out my grandmothers maiden name and also my dad had 2 siblings who died very young which I had no idea about.
It really is fascinating stuff.
Thanks for all the tips and wonderful stories

 

[-dabz-]

i have only just started on mine.
i have come up with 2 leads for my maternal grandad and great grandad but i can't work out which is correct. my mate has suggested that I just go with one and get on with it. that to me would make the whole thing pointless.
i never knew my paternal grandparents but I have managed to work out my grandmothers maiden name and also my dad had 2 siblings who died very young which I had no idea about.
It really is fascinating stuff.
Thanks for all the tips and wonderful stories

Keep going and stay focussed on the line you are pursuing..Gets messy and confusing otherwise. Occasionally it throws up an amusing curve ball like finding out the guy who played the cult leader in Brookside and Gary Mallets brother in Coronation street is my second cousin..lol...

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The most helpful was the free catholic records in the central library.
Baptism and Marriage for most churches in Manchester.
Drawers full of films clearly marked the advantage is godparents and witnesses, address etc. up untill 1939
Church of England Manchester Cathedral etc it really is comprehensive. You can spend hours searching micro film, newspapers and a coffee cafe in the basement,
Be prepared for shocks as previous generations were very secretive or just plain forgot.

Many of our ancestors died in both world wars it’s distressing because it’s your kin not just anybody on the news, Those records are available free
It turned out we are just mongrels from all over the place no aristocracy
best of luck with yours CBH

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

The most helpful was the free catholic records in the central library.
Baptism and Marriage for most churches in Manchester.
Drawers full of films clearly marked the advantage is godparents and witnesses, address etc. up untill 1939
Church of England Manchester Cathedral etc it really is comprehensive. You can spend hours searching micro film, newspapers and a coffee cafe in the basement,
Be prepared for shocks as previous generations were very secretive or just plain forgot.

Many of our ancestors died in both world wars it’s distressing because it’s your kin not just anybody on the news, Those records are available free
It turned out we are just mongrels from all over the place no aristocracy
best of luck with yours CBH

Thats great advice Kirkstall, thank you.
i do love the bluemoon community, so helpful.