UK far right trouble July/August 24

[Phil1]

Well that's me fully stocked up on booze..some cracking deals on aldi cider. Got a feeling the police will be busy this weekend..stay safe blues

I’ll try my best but with temps hitting high 30’s this weekend I’ll probably stay in the shade just to be on the safe side.

 

[northendenton]

I’m good, for some reason Scotland seems to be immune to this nonsense. We don’t have problems with religious intolerance.

Should have kept quiet about that mate

 

[ballbag]

Imagine looking like that (referring to the twitter pic) and thinking your race is somehow superior

I'm no longer a fan of Milky Bars.

 

[splinter]

I’ll try my best but with temps hitting high 30’s this weekend I’ll probably stay in the shade just to be on the safe side.

Jesus Where's that

 

[Phil1]

Jesus Where's that

Sat with tiny Tommeh in an Irish bar in Spain discussing politics.. :-)

 

[ballbag]

Play stupid games win shit prizes - get down Shep

'I pay your wages'

Mate, I pay YOUR wages. Fuck off.

 

[splinter]

Sat with tiny Tommeh in an Irish bar in Spain discussing politics.. :-)

Very nice

 

[GortonBlue62]

Your fourth paragraph raises all sorts of questions, off the top of my head:

• Are the social tensions really caused by high levels of immigration or is it a proxy for something else?
• What constitutes high levels of migration, are the causes of the 2019 to 2023 spike short term issues? if so have the conditions that caused them gone away, or do they still need to be addressed?
• Given that the nature of migratory patterns has changed hugely in the last four years as a result of Brexit what does that say for the future
• Given net migration is now heading down again, how much of a pressing issue is it?

These are not rhetorical questions and are all legitimate topics for discussion

However.....

At one level we've already had a debate - it was the GE and as a consequence of that, the new government will be introducing the Border Security, Asylum & Immigration Bill and associated initiatives.

In terms of scrutinising those plans, one of the challenges is that to have a debate you need people to act in good faith in terms of wanting to solve whatever the issue may or may not be. A significant number of people currently involved in the debate are not acting in good faith, they are weaponizing the issue for their broader political agenda. This is what the last government did, it's what Farage has spent his entire political career doing. So if there's a debate to be had, how should it be had and who should be having it? The government and a detoxified opposition possibly, but what are the chances of the Tories getting their shit in a pile any time soon?

So I understand your general point but my question would be what type of debate do you think is needed and how should we have it?

Bad faith is pretending there isn't a problem with unsustainably high levels of immigration...

UK long-term migration figures 2023 | Statista

In 2023, approximately 1.22 million people migrated to the United Kingdom, while 532,000 people migrated from the UK, resulting in a net migration figure of 685,000.

www.statista.com

Bad faith is ignoring the 4.1 million Reform votes at the GE.

Bad faith is pretending that the new government will stem the tide of illegal immigrants.

Bad faith is forgetting the terrorist events involving immigrants in the UK since July 7th 2005...

List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

If you avoid playing the race card we can have the debate here.

 

[ballbag]

I'd imagine the soldiers who served in two world wars would take one look at the scum that are rioting and wonder why the fuck they bothered.

 

[Marklr]

Bad faith is pretending there isn't a problem with unsustainably high levels of immigration...

UK long-term migration figures 2023 | Statista

In 2023, approximately 1.22 million people migrated to the United Kingdom, while 532,000 people migrated from the UK, resulting in a net migration figure of 685,000.

www.statista.com

Bad faith is ignoring the 4.1 million Reform votes at the GE.

Bad faith is pretending that the new government will stem the tide of illegal immigrants.

Bad faith is forgetting the terrorist events involving immigrants in the UK since July 7th 2005...

List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

If you avoid playing the race card we can have the debate here.

4.1 m fucking idiots.
I don't get why the RIGHT WING have played the "race card". As far as I can see, the Southport murders have nothing to do with immigration or religion.