Or you're remembering them more than the multitude of murders over the same time by white males?
I don't know the answer to that, but it's possible, isn't it?
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I don't know the answer to that, but it's possible, isn't it?
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Yeah he’s clearly a nutter but the trigger that made him do it could have been days earlier,
Dance teacher could’ve shouted at him from her car “ get out the road you idiot “ or beeped him the day before
It could be absolutely anything
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We'll have to wait and see I think.
I'd imagine now that his identity has been revealed people who went to school with him and other acquaintances will give us a bit more information about his character.
I keep thinking about those mass shootings in America where often the motive is an exaggerated sense of grievance against a teacher a school or whatever.
Whatever the motive he'll spend the rest of his life in prison or a mental institution.
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I'm not sure about either of those last two points (see your post below...) but let's try and move forward
What format should this debate take? We have representative democracy and elect officials to parliament to propose and scrutinise legislation? The FPTP does mean that some views are under represented but you and I can do nothing about that right now, so how do we move forward? or do we wait until there is some form of PR?
When you say everyone should be involved what does that mean in practice? Do you want some form of referendum or some form of public enquiry if so what are the terms of these? Do you want a parliamentary select committee to undertake some sort of analysis?
You want a debate rather than people chucking rocks at coppers, I'm good with that, but I don't understand what type of debate you want and what the question is we are debating. Is the question how much and what type of immigration do we want as a country ? If so what's your viewpoint/answer to that question?
Bad faith is pretending there isn't a problem with unsustainably high levels of immigration...
UK long-term migration figures 2023 | Statista
In 2023, approximately 1.22 million people migrated to the United Kingdom, while 532,000 people migrated from the UK, resulting in a net migration figure of 685,000.www.statista.com
Bad faith is ignoring the 4.1 million Reform votes at the GE.
Bad faith is pretending that the new government will stem the tide of illegal immigrants.
Bad faith is forgetting the terrorist events involving immigrants in the UK since July 7th 2005...
List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia
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If you avoid playing the race card we can have the debate here.
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Anything's possible and we always have to bear that in mind.
The older you get the more difficult it is to get out of your favourite arm chair and staying curious and open minded also becomes more difficult.
Being aware of the problem is half the battle.
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Bad faith is pretending there isn't a problem with unsustainably high levels of immigration...
UK long-term migration figures 2023 | Statista
In 2023, approximately 1.22 million people migrated to the United Kingdom, while 532,000 people migrated from the UK, resulting in a net migration figure of 685,000.
Bad faith is ignoring the 4.1 million Reform votes at the GE.
Bad faith is pretending that the new government will stem the tide of illegal immigrants.
Bad faith is forgetting the terrorist events involving immigrants in the UK since July 7th 2005...
List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia
If you avoid playing the race card we can have the debate here.
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Never been a member of any political party mate. Far too restricting when you have the ability to think for yourself.
I've resisted the temptation to click the link but I bet it's really funny. Hope you didn't spend too much time on it.
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Not quite. Vicars are associated with the Church of England which, though Christian, is infamously not associated with the Catholic Church, which is also Christian.
But using your hypothesis that Roman Catholics should be sent back to Rome, Protestants of a Church of England persuasion should therefore be sent back to Canterbury, as its cathedral is the seat of the Church of England.
Fair play to the 5 who are still taking covid seriously..Being sought by GMP for the violence outside a hotel in Newton Heath.
We can't say anything bad about these people. We have to believe they have legitimate concerns about immigration....
