UK far right trouble July/August 24

We don’t need to arm them with guns, they’d was a time in NI where even the army only had shields and batons. Maybe Just let them use rubber bullets. I’m told they are really really sore.

In this country we like to hold onto this weird nostalgia of red phone boxes and the local Bobby armed with nothing but a whistle and a stern word. It’s a load of naive dreamworld shite.

It’s not the world we live in.

The police need 21st century protection.

Unfortunately that means they need to be armed in the same way every other sensible democratic western country arms its police.
 
Arm the police ffs.

The wannabe little chav football hooligan types who are causing all this shit won’t be half as brave if they knew every cop was armed - you know, like they are in literally every other country on the fucking planet apart from the UK.

We have units that are armed. Arming the police as a whole won't solve anything, just as it hasn't in the other countries you mention.

American police are armed but during protests they rarely use them as they could hit someone who is protesting peacefully.

We don't have the riot police numbers, nor the holding cell/prison capacity for police to go in heavy handed.

As such the tactic is to difuse the situation, arrest the main trouble makers and then find more in the coming days or weeks by putting out their pictures.

It's not the immediate satisfaction you might want but some of them will have consequences to their actions like losing jobs and be publically shamed.
 
Literally has a swastika tattooed on him, along with other far right symbols, but call them far-right and people will react against it.
Horrible bastard. Fairly certain that's a gas mask on his back, too. Must make The Patriots really proud.
 
Wel, obviously there is or there wouldn’t be a lawful excuse defence. How do you expect people to get them home once they’ve bought them from Tesco?
Well if it's still in the packaging and with receipt I would say ok. If out of the packaging and no receipt could easily be 10yrs in prison. You have been warned.
 
We have units that are armed. Arming the police as a whole won't solve anything, just as it hasn't in the other countries you mention.

American police are armed but during protests they rarely use them as they could hit someone who is protesting peacefully.

We don't have the riot police numbers, nor the holding cell/prison capacity for police to go in heavy handed.

As such the tactic is to difuse the situation, arrest the main trouble makers and then find more in the coming days or weeks by putting out their pictures.

It's not the immediate satisfaction you might want but some of them will have consequences to their actions like losing jobs and be publically shamed.

Deciding on a softly softly strategy because of a lack of available cells is fucking mental. Even more so when you consider it’s probably true.
 
In this country we like to hold onto this weird nostalgia of red phone boxes and the local Bobby armed with nothing but a whistle and a stern word. It’s a load of naive dreamworld shite.

It’s not the world we live in.

The police need 21st century protection.

Unfortunately that means they need to be armed in the same way every other sensible democratic western country arms its police.
Yeah but arming the police is a step I don’t want to take. It’s bad enough seeing some of them carrying guns, incorrectly, in airports. Just given them more powers during situations like this to be a bit more hands on.
 
Arm the police ffs.

The wannabe little chav football hooligan types who are causing all this shit won’t be half as brave if they knew every cop was armed - you know, like they are in literally every other country on the fucking planet apart from the UK.

There’s nothing special about our daft little island that means our police shouldn’t carry guns in the same way their peers do around the world.
There are certain forces within the police that carry firearms, but they are specially trained personnel and deployed for exceptional operations; I imagine firing one to maim rather than kill isn't as easy you think, which is why they aren't all armed. As others have pointed out, some rubber bullets to their bollocks and a swift baton round the jaw should be enough to convince them to go home.

I honestly think this is escalating to the point where we'll see serious casualties and/or fatalities, so the police need to be acting more aggressively, and that heightened aggression needs the full support of those parts of the nation that aren't out to cause anarchy.
 
Yeah but arming the police is a step I don’t want to take. It’s bad enough seeing some of them carrying guns, incorrectly, in airports. Just given them more powers during situations like this to be a bit more hands on.

When has a police officer carried a firearm “incorrectly” in an airport?
 

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