Ferguson - Loud Mouthed Bully

[Stelea]

We have won more than half the trophies he won already.

In his lifetime too

 

[Vienna_70]

Great manager. Nowhere near the GPC though. As said before, Ferguson not only obliterates every English manager (Clough included) on top flight and European trophies, he also broke the Celtic /Rangers duopoly and that shows he was an absolutely top drawer manager. He’s a very very strong claim for greatest ever. Unless there is someone out there who has a comparable 2 team (or more haul).

Cloughy won the title with two unfashionable, provincial clubs, where he had very little money to spend, until they started winning.

His first European Cup-winning side at Forest was made up of reject, like Larry Lloyd, Kenny Burns and Ian Bowyer.

 

[Shaggy]

 

[johnnytapia]

Herbert Chapman.

Chapman, 2 league titles with Huddersfield, 2 with Arsenal, 1 FA cup with Huddersfield and 1 with Arsenal; Ferguson 3 league titles with Aberdeen and 13 league titles with United. 4 Scottish cups with Aberdeen, 5 FA cups with United.
Chapman was an absolutely brilliant manager. But not even close to the GPC.
Ferguson is absolutely miles in front of anyone. Clough, Paisley, Pep, Ancelotti, etc. Let’s not be blindsided by partisanship.

 

[johnnytapia]

Cloughy won the title with two unfashionable, provincial clubs, where he had very little money to spend, until they started winning.

His first European Cup-winning side at Forest was made up of reject, like Larry Lloyd, Kenny Burns and Ian Bowyer.

And he broke the world goalkeeping transfer fee for Shilton and then broke the world transfer fee for the world’s first one million pound player, Francis. He was an absolute genius but it wasn’t all done on the cheap

 

[City Raider]

History repeating itself as he overshadows everyone in the same way Busby did for decades.

 

[Vienna_70]

And he broke the world goalkeeping transfer fee for Shilton and then broke the world transfer fee for the world’s first one million pound player, Francis. He was an absolute genius but it wasn’t all done on the cheap

He could only afford to buy those players because he (with Peter Taylor's help) had made Nottingham Forest a successful side, unlike the pisscan, who had a side, which cost £13.5 million, humiliated 5-1, by their (at that time) less-illustrious and much poorer, local rivals, despite at that stage, not having won any trophies at the swamp. A team that included five, who had come through the youth system, and was missing their newly-acquired star striker, and first-choice goalkeeper.

Additionally, Cloughie never indulged in the disgusting bullying tactics that purple nose did. He expected his players to behave impeccably. And they did, for the most part, unlike Ferguson's, who surrounded officials at every opportunity.

As much as it pains me to acknowledge it, taggart was a world-class manager, but I still think Clough was better.

However, as has been said many times about it being difficult to compare players from different eras, so it is with managers, and though their careers overlapped, they were fundamentally from different generations.

 

[malg]

Ferguson was a bully, and a deeply unpleasant individual, but he wasn't only that.

True, he was a **** as well

 

[Fat Chance]

Clough defending the european cup would seem to be difficult for any other english teams

 

[Corky]

Chapman, 2 league titles with Huddersfield, 2 with Arsenal, 1 FA cup with Huddersfield and 1 with Arsenal; Ferguson 3 league titles with Aberdeen and 13 league titles with United. 4 Scottish cups with Aberdeen, 5 FA cups with United.
Chapman was an absolutely brilliant manager. But not even close to the GPC.
Ferguson is absolutely miles in front of anyone. Clough, Paisley, Pep, Ancelotti, etc. Let’s not be blindsided by partisanship.

Pound for Pound chapman was better at the age he died, his sides won 3 titles without him you could argue.