Fergusons Book (Merged)

Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

Sad that we let him get away with his "cut and run" but it's water under the bridge now.

Some idiots say that he's seen off Arsenal, Chelsea and City.

Looks like it, doesn't it?

It can't be denied that Mancini had his number when his City team faced Ferguson and I'm sure Pelle would have had similar success had Ferguson not shat his kecks and bolted.

Let's be kind and say his health was the main reason behind his departure?
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

"he is fascinated by strong personalities, and how they wield power, or “control” (the term he prefers). "

There it is.

Thats why its a poisoned chalice, no-one will ever have that amount of control again. This weekend the press have picked up on the fact that no one goes there with the fear factor anymore...and its only been 8 games since he went.

Wait til its a few years, they'll be languishing.
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

st. blue said:
"he is fascinated by strong personalities, and how they wield power, or “control” (the term he prefers). "

There it is.

Thats why its a poisoned chalice, no-one will ever have that amount of control again. This weekend the press have picked up on the fact that no one goes there with the fear factor anymore...and its only been 8 games since he went.

Wait til its a few years, they'll be languishing.

Bang on - I´m convinced he studied the persona of Stalin for years - a footballing reign of terror if ever there was one
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

Upon reflection, united winning the league last year, painful though it was, was definitely to City's long term advantage.

There is the obvious reason behind that, of course, namely that Ferguson felt he could resign whilst on top. His intensely competitive nature would not have allowed him to leave a beaten man and his determination to stay on another season more than he planned and take the title back (if true) underline the incredible reserves of self-belief that he had, a belief that was entirely justified it has to be said.

It is this will to win and self-belief, however, that could very well prove to significantly damage united in the medium to long term. It was clear to anyone that united's squad had two glaring and systemic problems at its heart. A lack of power and purpose in midfield and a rapidly ageing defence. Rather than take steps to address these deficiencies and to build again for the long term, Ferguson elected to go for a quick fix to get the League back. He bought Van Persie, a man rapidly approaching his 30th birthday. This was at odds with his previous MO when attempting to recover from footballing adversity, where he took great risks when rebuilding: selling Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis and going with the "kids" was one such example. On this occasion he went for the quick fix - because he was so consumed by reclaiming the title that no other considerations entered his thoughts in any meaningful sense.

It has to be said that the fact he achieved his objective is a testament to his powers as a football manager: especially with that squad. Some blues allow their personal dislike for him to infect their ability to objectively analyse his achievements: for me he was the greatest manager of all time, but because his energies were entirely focused on winning the league last year he gave little or no thought to the problems which now threaten to overwhelm united's squad. When squads age there comes a point when things can unravel very quickly - it may well be that we're now at that point. Certainly the fear factor has gone. In being such a driven, competitive and focused man, his parting gift to united could well be a legacy similar to Liverpool's after he'd "knocked them off their fucking perch'".

Everyone has an achilles heel and Ferguson's was that he loved winning so much, and hating losing to City so much, especially in that manner, that he went fighting his own selfish battle, rather than the one that was in the best interests of a club he spent 26 years building into such a force. Sergio's goal, it seems, becomes even more significant and beautiful with the passage of time.

As to Taggart's book, I would be lying if I said there wasn't a few bits I wasn't looking forward to digesting: September 1st 2008; April 16th 2011 and May 13th 2012 spring to mind.
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

gordondaviesmoustache said:
Upon reflection, united winning the league last year, painful though it was, was definitely to City's long term advantage.

There is the obvious reason behind that, of course, namely that Ferguson felt he could resign whilst on top. His intensely competitive nature would not have allowed him to leave a beaten man and his determination to stay on another season more than he planned and take the title back (if true) underline the incredible reserves of self-belief that he had, a belief that was entirely justified it has to be said.

It is this will to win and self-belief, however, that could very well prove to significantly damage united in the medium to long term. It was clear to anyone that united's squad had two glaring and systemic problems at its heart. A lack of power and purpose in midfield and a rapidly ageing defence. Rather than take steps to address these deficiencies and to build again for the long term, Ferguson elected to go for a quick fix to get the League back. He bought Van Persie, a man rapidly approaching his 30th birthday. This was at odds with his previous MO when attempting to recover from footballing adversity, where he took great risks when rebuilding: selling Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis and going with the "kids" was one such example. On this occasion he went for the quick fix - because he was so consumed by reclaiming the title that no other considerations entered his thoughts in any meaningful sense.

It has to be said that the fact he achieved his objective is a testament to his powers as a football manager: especially with that squad. Some blues allow their personal dislike for him to infect their ability to objectively analyse his achievements: for me he was the greatest manager of all time, but because his energies were entirely focused on winning the league last year he gave little or no thought to the problems which now threaten to overwhelm united's squad. When squads age there comes a point when things can unravel very quickly - it may well be that we're now at that point. Certainly the fear factor has gone. In being such a driven, competitive and focused man, his parting gift to united could well be a legacy similar to Liverpool's after he'd "knocked them off their fucking perch'".

Everyone has an achilles heel and Ferguson's was that he loved winning so much, and hating losing to City so much, especially in that manner, that he went fighting his own selfish battle, rather than the one that was in the best interests of a club he spent 26 years building into such a force. Sergio's goal, it seems, becomes even more significant and beautiful with the passage of time.

As to Taggart's book, I would be lying if I said there wasn't a few bits I wasn't looking forward to digesting: September 1st 2008; April 16th 2011 and May 13th 2012 spring to mind.

Nice read. Although I disagree with the highlighted bit. I think he thought fuck it, don't care, I won't be here. Just want this title and I can fuck off.
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

prestonibbo_mcfc said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Upon reflection, united winning the league last year, painful though it was, was definitely to City's long term advantage.

There is the obvious reason behind that, of course, namely that Ferguson felt he could resign whilst on top. His intensely competitive nature would not have allowed him to leave a beaten man and his determination to stay on another season more than he planned and take the title back (if true) underline the incredible reserves of self-belief that he had, a belief that was entirely justified it has to be said.

It is this will to win and self-belief, however, that could very well prove to significantly damage united in the medium to long term. It was clear to anyone that united's squad had two glaring and systemic problems at its heart. A lack of power and purpose in midfield and a rapidly ageing defence. Rather than take steps to address these deficiencies and to build again for the long term, Ferguson elected to go for a quick fix to get the League back. He bought Van Persie, a man rapidly approaching his 30th birthday. This was at odds with his previous MO when attempting to recover from footballing adversity, where he took great risks when rebuilding: selling Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis and going with the "kids" was one such example. On this occasion he went for the quick fix - because he was so consumed by reclaiming the title that no other considerations entered his thoughts in any meaningful sense.

It has to be said that the fact he achieved his objective is a testament to his powers as a football manager: especially with that squad. Some blues allow their personal dislike for him to infect their ability to objectively analyse his achievements: for me he was the greatest manager of all time, but because his energies were entirely focused on winning the league last year he gave little or no thought to the problems which now threaten to overwhelm united's squad. When squads age there comes a point when things can unravel very quickly - it may well be that we're now at that point. Certainly the fear factor has gone. In being such a driven, competitive and focused man, his parting gift to united could well be a legacy similar to Liverpool's after he'd "knocked them off their fucking perch'".

Everyone has an achilles heel and Ferguson's was that he loved winning so much, and hating losing to City so much, especially in that manner, that he went fighting his own selfish battle, rather than the one that was in the best interests of a club he spent 26 years building into such a force. Sergio's goal, it seems, becomes even more significant and beautiful with the passage of time.

As to Taggart's book, I would be lying if I said there wasn't a few bits I wasn't looking forward to digesting: September 1st 2008; April 16th 2011 and May 13th 2012 spring to mind.

Nice read. Although I disagree with the highlighted bit. I think he thought fuck it, don't care, I won't be here. Just want this title and I can fuck off.
That's fair comment, in all probability.
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

gordondaviesmoustache said:
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Upon reflection, united winning the league last year, painful though it was, was definitely to City's long term advantage.

There is the obvious reason behind that, of course, namely that Ferguson felt he could resign whilst on top. His intensely competitive nature would not have allowed him to leave a beaten man and his determination to stay on another season more than he planned and take the title back (if true) underline the incredible reserves of self-belief that he had, a belief that was entirely justified it has to be said.

It is this will to win and self-belief, however, that could very well prove to significantly damage united in the medium to long term. It was clear to anyone that united's squad had two glaring and systemic problems at its heart. A lack of power and purpose in midfield and a rapidly ageing defence. Rather than take steps to address these deficiencies and to build again for the long term, Ferguson elected to go for a quick fix to get the League back. He bought Van Persie, a man rapidly approaching his 30th birthday. This was at odds with his previous MO when attempting to recover from footballing adversity, where he took great risks when rebuilding: selling Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis and going with the "kids" was one such example. On this occasion he went for the quick fix - because he was so consumed by reclaiming the title that no other considerations entered his thoughts in any meaningful sense.

It has to be said that the fact he achieved his objective is a testament to his powers as a football manager: especially with that squad. Some blues allow their personal dislike for him to infect their ability to objectively analyse his achievements: for me he was the greatest manager of all time, but because his energies were entirely focused on winning the league last year he gave little or no thought to the problems which now threaten to overwhelm united's squad. When squads age there comes a point when things can unravel very quickly - it may well be that we're now at that point. Certainly the fear factor has gone. In being such a driven, competitive and focused man, his parting gift to united could well be a legacy similar to Liverpool's after he'd "knocked them off their fucking perch'".

Everyone has an achilles heel and Ferguson's was that he loved winning so much, and hating losing to City so much, especially in that manner, that he went fighting his own selfish battle, rather than the one that was in the best interests of a club he spent 26 years building into such a force. Sergio's goal, it seems, becomes even more significant and beautiful with the passage of time.

As to Taggart's book, I would be lying if I said there wasn't a few bits I wasn't looking forward to digesting: September 1st 2008; April 16th 2011 and May 13th 2012 spring to mind.

Nice read. Although I disagree with the highlighted bit. I think he thought fuck it, don't care, I won't be here. Just want this title and I can fuck off.
That's fair comment, in all probability.

Even if it was, I don't think he'll be putting it in his book. I might have a quick peruse if I get a copy.
Won't be paying for it though. Not because it's Rags, it's because i'm a tight git.
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Even if it was, I don't think he'll be putting it in his book. I might have a quick peruse if I get a copy.
Won't be paying for it though. Not because it's Rags, it's because i'm a tight git.
Memoirs are nearly always pick ' mix undertakings. He'll be leaving certain bits out, that's for sure including, as previously mentioned, the Coolmore escapade. Lot more to that than met the eye imo.
 
Re: Fergusons Book Out Tuesday. The S*** Will Hit The Fan

The day we won the title was the worst day of his 27 years! Best fuckin' day for me of his 27 years. Sez he stayed on for last season to reverse our title winning day. Yer didn't make it yer old Pcan. Check the records. We still pissed on yer party at the SoL!! And wasn't he the gracious one towards those Mackems who cheered our title?
 
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I surmise (happy to be proven wrong) it will be an object lesson in vanity and egoism. The man won 2 Champs Leagues, 13 Premier League titles and 5 FA Cups - why talk about others when you can measure yourself in terms of silver won and how you did it.

No, I imagine it will be a slightly more interesting version of one of those interminably boring management by numbers books a la Edward de Bono/John Harvey Jones etc with a smattering of dressing room tittle tattle for good measure. I also imagine if he covers any conflict the chapter will end with "...needless to say, I had the last laugh..."

Anyone expecting more will likely be disappointed.
 

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