Fernandinho

[pudge]

Doesn't Pellegrini play Isco on the left/center?

Yes he does, but Isco can switch flanks like Silva can. What this means and is what Txiki wishes to achieve is to have a squad that can move around the pitch switching position allowing fluid movement.

Don't tease me.

Every time Silva gets the ball everyone else turns to stone.

My kingdom for some movement off the ball!

 

[FantasyIreland]

Doesn't Pellegrini play Isco on the left/center?

Yes he does, but Isco can switch flanks like Silva can. What this means and is what Txiki wishes to achieve is to have a squad that can move around the pitch switching position allowing fluid movement.

I thought that was the reasoning behind Nasri's purchase.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Doesn't Pellegrini play Isco on the left/center?

Yes he does, but Isco can switch flanks like Silva can. What this means and is what Txiki wishes to achieve is to have a squad that can move around the pitch switching position allowing fluid movement.

Don't tease me.

Every time Silva gets the ball everyone else turns to stone.

My kingdom for some movement off the ball!

Lol....I know but it is true. I know we go on about the Barca model of play but what it actually boils down to is the Cruyff system of playing football. Fluid movement allowing players to shift position, which means that the team will not be rigid in terms of where a player has to be on the pitch.

So for example if we have to counter at speed and lets say Silva is on the opposite flank, we have someone with the same attributes and skill level on the opposite flank leaving the counter open to be actioned on either side.

 

[taconinja]

Doesn't Pellegrini play Isco on the left/center?

Yes he does, but Isco can switch flanks like Silva can. What this means and is what Txiki wishes to achieve is to have a squad that can move around the pitch switching position allowing fluid movement.

Don't tease me.

Every time Silva gets the ball everyone else turns to stone.

My kingdom for some movement off the ball!

Completely agree. This may sound odd, but I blame that on the manager. It's his job to get the players to understand that off-ball movement is key in this kind of system. I think perhaps the players were too concerned with getting back into defensive shape to effectively move into different positions when attacking.

Doesn't Pellegrini play Isco on the left/center?

Yes he does, but Isco can switch flanks like Silva can. What this means and is what Txiki wishes to achieve is to have a squad that can move around the pitch switching position allowing fluid movement.

I thought that was the reasoning behind Nasri's purchase.

Nasri is a different kind of player. He should be more central and drift wide as the situation dictates.

And thanks BlueMoonz1977! I thought that was the case.

 

[Big Dave Watson]

Fernandinho thread??

 

[yerwot?]

if he can stitch the dm to the likes of Silva and Nasri without resorting to 30 yard passes we will play better quicker football.
the least productive ball is a punt over the halfway line when the opposition is waiting for just that. Yaya hasn't got the stamina any more for carrying it forward at speed, or to chase down the opposition when they surge forward. Got high hopes for Fernandinho, could do with another like him imo

 

[LoveCity]

 

[Matt the Giant]

Cheeky bugger, isn't he?
And it's Toure, not Toyre.

 

[Ray78]

Seems a very confident player and wants to sign for us which is a bonus. Fingers crossed we will seal the deal.

 

[Akai]

I wonder how will he react if he joins us and then fails to make the world cup squad...

we should give him short term contract just in case !

 

[sky tot]

Whats Fernandinho v Yaya goals stats ??

 

[TCIB]

Cheeky bugger, isn't he?
And it's Toure, not Toyre.

Who is cheeky Matt, did Fernandinho post this himself or something lol ?.

 

[Glauber Berti]

Whats Fernandinho v Yaya goals stats ??

Fernandinho - 32 - 5
Yaya - 40 - 9

Apps-Goals - In all competitions.

(According to Wiki)

 

[sky tot]

Whats Fernandinho v Yaya goals stats ??

Fernandinho - 32 - 5
Yaya - 40 - 9

Apps-Goals - In all competitions.

(According to Wiki)

Yaya got 10 according to City OS, couldn't find Fernandinho goals.

 

[B\connellblue]

Not what we want by along shot. Next.

 

[NoahCity]

Not what we want by along shot. Next.

have you ever seen him play? I think he is exactly what we need and very excited as he seems to be coming.

 

[B\connellblue]

Not what we want by along shot. Next.

have you ever seen him play? I think he is exactly what we need and very excited as he seems to be coming.

Yes I've seen him. I'm not saying he's not talented it's just I'm incredibly wary of anyone from Brazil especially those who play in Russia and look world beaters on you tube.

 

[kun]

Whats Fernandinho v Yaya goals stats ??

Yaya Toure

Beveren
2001/02: 28 apps, 0 goals
2002/03: 30 apps, 3 goals
2003/04: 12 apps, 0 goals

Metalurh Donetsk
2003/04: 11 apps, 1 goal
2004/05: 28 apps, 4 goals

Olympiakos
2005/06: 32 apps, 3 goals

Monaco
2006/07: 27 apps, 5 goals

Barcelona
2007/08: 40 apps, 2 goals
2008/09: 40 apps, 3 goals
2009/10: 37 apps, 1 goal

Manchester City
2010/11: 49 apps, 10 goals
2011/12: 43 apps, 9 goals
2012/13: 40 apps, 9 goals


Fernandinho

Shakhtar Donetsk
2005/06: 34 apps, 3 goals
2006/07: 40 apps, 4 goals
2007/08: 41 apps, 12 goals
2008/09: 42 apps, 11 goals
2009/10: 39 apps, 8 goals
2010/11: 20 apps, 3 goals
2011/12: 32 apps, 6 goals
2012/13: 32 apps, 5 goals


Internationally:
Fernandinho: 5 apps, 0 goals
Yaya Toure: 75 apps, 13 goals

Totals
Fernandinho: 285 apps, 52 goals (a goal every 5.5 matches)
Yaya Toure: 492 apps, 63 goals (a goal every 7.8 matches)

This show Fernandinho to be the better goalscorer, but based on this season:
Fernandinho: 32 apps, 5 goals (a goal every 6.4 matches)
Yaya Toure: 40 apps, 9 goals (a goal every 4.4 matches)

And considering Yaya was a far more defensive midfielder untill he joined city, let's see their record since Yaya's been at city:
Fernandinho: 84 apps, 14 goals (a goal every 6 matches)
Yaya Toure: 138 apps, 28 goals (a goal every 4.9 matches)

But now let's see both of their records in the Ukraine, at the same age:
Fernandinho: 74 apps, 7 goals (a goal every 10.6 games)
Yaya Toure: 39 apps, 5 goals (a goal every 7.8 matches)


well, there you go

 

[LoveCity]

Not what we want by along shot. Next.

have you ever seen him play? I think he is exactly what we need and very excited as he seems to be coming.

Yes I've seen him. I'm not saying he's not talented it's just I'm incredibly wary of anyone from Brazil especially those who play in Russia and look world beaters on you tube.

He looked top quality against Dortmund (coped a lot better against their meth-fueled midfielders than our lot did!), Chelsea, and Juventus - not just in the Ukraine (which is a slightly underrated league). He's a great talent who is a serious upgrade on our non-Yaya midfielders.

 

[sky tot]

Whats Fernandinho v Yaya goals stats ??

Yaya Toure

Beveren
2001/02: 28 apps, 0 goals
2002/03: 30 apps, 3 goals
2003/04: 12 apps, 0 goals

Metalurh Donetsk
2003/04: 11 apps, 1 goal
2004/05: 28 apps, 4 goals

Olympiakos
2005/06: 32 apps, 3 goals

Monaco
2006/07: 27 apps, 5 goals

Barcelona
2007/08: 40 apps, 2 goals
2008/09: 40 apps, 3 goals
2009/10: 37 apps, 1 goal

Manchester City
2010/11: 49 apps, 10 goals
2011/12: 43 apps, 9 goals
2012/13: 40 apps, 9 goals


Fernandinho

Shakhtar Donetsk
2005/06: 34 apps, 3 goals
2006/07: 40 apps, 4 goals
2007/08: 41 apps, 12 goals
2008/09: 42 apps, 11 goals
2009/10: 39 apps, 8 goals
2010/11: 20 apps, 3 goals
2011/12: 32 apps, 6 goals
2012/13: 32 apps, 5 goals


Internationally:
Fernandinho: 5 apps, 0 goals
Yaya Toure: 75 apps, 13 goals

Totals
Fernandinho: 285 apps, 52 goals (a goal every 5.5 matches)
Yaya Toure: 492 apps, 63 goals (a goal every 7.8 matches)

This show Fernandinho to be the better goalscorer, but based on this season:
Fernandinho: 32 apps, 5 goals (a goal every 6.4 matches)
Yaya Toure: 40 apps, 9 goals (a goal every 4.4 matches)

And considering Yaya was a far more defensive midfielder untill he joined city, let's see their record since Yaya's been at city:
Fernandinho: 84 apps, 14 goals (a goal every 6 matches)
Yaya Toure: 138 apps, 28 goals (a goal every 4.9 matches)

But now let's see both of their records in the Ukraine, at the same age:
Fernandinho: 74 apps, 7 goals (a goal every 10.6 games)
Yaya Toure: 39 apps, 5 goals (a goal every 7.8 matches)


well, there you go

Cant ask for more info than that , cheers.