FFP reprise ..an article about our owners

You have been very selective my friend
The article does finish like that but suggest we got to that point by bullying, threatening and cheating our way.
It's a piece of shit written by some jealous ****

Thinking about tho, so what if we've thrown our weight around and ruffled a few feathers? We all know Unitef aren't happy locally speaking especially when it comes to success and youth recruitment. We've had clubs like Bayern whinging too. It was the main reason for FFP being created in the first place!
 
It's a very bizarre article. Aside from the amusing concept of 'unchartered territory', it manages to say next to nothing and is pretty schizophrenic as to its point. I think it's trying to say that FFP has no teeth, and the riches in the game now are such that the UEFA penalty can be handled; it does smack of a sub-ed hacking it around a bit.

I don't recall Keble writing much, but it appears that he's a freelance hack who is a Villa fan.
Isn't that what the article is saying? Go with it and take your punishment?
 
An article so full of bile, vitriol and stunning inaccuracies that it's an embarrassment to call it journalism.



Just not accurate in the slightest. City took their medicine, despite having a fairly strong legal case against their punishment (UEFA blatantly changed the way the rules were to be applied, one could argue specifically to catch City and be seen to be enforcing the rules).



No, muscles aren't being flexed, City are simply growing financially to the point where FFP doesn't really affect us a great deal. Our "victory" is that, despite UEFA's attempts to prevent us from challenging the establishment, we've ensconced ourselves in the upper echelons of European football.



The implication that this is what Sheikh Mansour did is insulting and simply wrong. We didn't ignore FFP, we attempted to, and based upon UEFA's guidance, managed to comply with FFP. Underhanded moving of the goalposts post the event is what we fell foul of.



City have not legally challenged anything, a lie, pure and simple. Meetings between City and UEFA did take place, but this was entirely City's attempts to comply with FFP, something the "author" has already claimed we never tried to do. "Very little has been done to shut down the expansionist ideologies of...Manchester City", and why the fuck SHOULD anything have been done? Is it UEFA's place to say "sorry, you want to grow and become a big club? That's not allowed" Is there any other industry where regulators would actively seek to undermine new businesses, to prevent them from growing, in order to protect those businesses already dominating the market? UEFA has no place trying to shut down anyone's attempts at growth.



Err, no, it wouldn't be unjust, it would be accurate. Correlation does not imply causation. It would be far more accurate to say that aggregate net losses have fallen so dramatically due to the huge increase, across the board, of media revenue within football.



Again, not accurate. The investment was in the CFG, so the football group as a whole, and not specifically in Manchester City FC themselves. The group is valued at £2b.



Again, whilst regulation of football is poor and needs addressing, those regulations should have NOTHING to do with a wealthy individual investing their time and money into a club in order to grow it and compete at the highest level, providing the investment, and growth, is geared towards sustainability like at City. Equity and not loans, prevent debt levels being increased dramatically, all good aims, blocking the way City have targeted growth is something that should never have been on the radar, and wouldn't have been if FFP hadn't been designed by, and influenced by, parties with their own self preservation at heart. Also there is absolutely no way the "example" used here, of "all powerful oil companies" is coincidental, it's a dig at City and where the wealth has come from.



Profitability ahead of integrity? So, it was ok for City to struggle financially, to languish in the lower leagues, to never have the hope of being a top club again, because we did so with integrity. However now we've got money, and we can compete, we lack that integrity? Get to fuck. How exactly is it unethical to invest money into a football club? Was it unethical when United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and every other successful club in history took their investment over the years? Or does that not count as it was a few years ago and would have involved someone actually having some integrity of their own and doing their research? Menacing? Fucking menacing? City growing and challenging the established sides is menacing? Only to those who don't like a challenge, who want to be perennial top dogs and think it's their right to be there. Menacing? Get to fuck once again.

So, on the whole, a poorly written, poorly researched, totally biased piece of journalism, if you can call it journalism at all.
Well said!!

 
Thinking about tho, so what if we've thrown our weight around and ruffled a few feathers? We all know United aren't happy locally speaking especially when it comes to success and youth recruitment. We've had clubs like Bayern whinging too. It was the main reason for FFP being created in the first place!
Mate, I think you've got the whole essence of the article wrong and surely you can see that? We've used our business acumen, football expertise backed by our financial status to advance our club, which is different to 'throwing our weight around' like some playground bully.

They say a fool and his money are soon parted and believe me our owner is no fool as he has subsequently proved. Yes, we've ruffled the feathers of Europe's elite, but this was not by design it was by consequence. Europe's 14 elite clubs have basically ran European football to suit their own interests for the last 2 decades, so when City came along and the reality of the situation began to dawn on the G14, they reacted just like the privileged would, they came out fighting to protect their way of life.

A version of FFP had been on the table for years previously and it was there as a noble attempt to tackle the issue of growing debt within the game due to spiralling costs. City come along and the emphasis of the early FFP was shifted from controlling debt by over borrowing, to clubs living within their means as a way of controlling debt. Still this sounded fine until you peeled away the first layer of the onion only to find this model also inhibited genuine affordable owner investment which in turn would enshrine a place at Europe's top table for those already sat there feasting on the fatted calf of CL football.

Allowing a club model like ours to come along unchallenged would mean places at the top table being lost by G14 members, so the likes of Bayern all backed a methodology that would stop us and those like us dead in our tracks, so FFP as we know it was born. It was obvious from the beginning, it was aimed at Manchester City and you as a City fan surely must have seen this.

This article is just purely a sneering, post FFP dig at us by a fan of a club displaced by City. Villa were at the front of the chasing pack when our owner first emerged, whilst right now they're favourites for relegation. This article was written through the teary eyes of a broken hearted, bitter football fan who saw his owners model of getting rid of high earning players and buying lower earning players with potential fail miserably, and the internet has provided him with a platform to vent his spleen.
 
I would expect to see more bile coming out about our club and the owners, don't expect things to settle now Platini has been seen off. David Gill and others still have jobs in high positions at FIFA and UEFA, plus the new FIFA president was very pro FFP.

These guys will continue to try and screw us
 
What the article fails to mention is that breaching the normal rules is now allowed where there has been a change in ownership, with the agreement of UEFA and a plan for compliance within 4 years.

So they cons have they cake and eat it? After 4 years and they still have complied, what's the punishment? 1 season out of the champs league? If they don't comply after agreeing they will they should be Banned from any European football for the 4 years they promised they would comply too.
 
So they cons have they cake and eat it? After 4 years and they still have complied, what's the punishment? 1 season out of the champs league? If they don't comply after agreeing they will they should be Banned from any European football for the 4 years they promised they would comply too.
They would be monitored over those 4 years so any problems should be apparent. As to any punishment, who knows. I guess it would depend on the size of the breach and whether UEFA felt that they had made a genuine effort or were taking the piss.
 
They would be monitored over those 4 years so any problems should be apparent. As to any punishment, who knows. I guess it would depend on the size of the breach and whether UEFA felt that they had made a genuine effort or were taking the piss.

Well, UEFA are experts in taking the piss so they should be well on top of that....
 

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