FFP - Why I believe we failed

[andyhinch]

What is truly meaningless is your view of 'reality' - it seems the only drilling down has been in your brain if you think that a hobbled CL squad doesn't harm us.

I await your other "personalities" opinion on the matter, it won't be long till he makes an appearance

I am referring this cruel remark to our local branch of the Schizophrenics Society of which I am Chairman. I am also the President and cleaner.

 

[George Hannah]

I await your other "personalities" opinion on the matter, it won't be long till he makes an appearance

I am referring this cruel remark to our local branch of the Schizophrenics Society of which I am Chairman. I am also the President and cleaner and gardener.

 

[Ducado]

The pre 2010 contracts issue seems like the sort of issue that we ought to go to court over. Its just blatantly unfair, seems completely illegal. If CAS ruled in UEFA's favour on this what would be the point of CAS?

But if we hadn't accepted the settlement offer UEFA wouldn't just have failed us on the contracts issue. They would have thrown the kitchen sink in. Perhaps the club are aware that somewhere hidden in the detail there is something on which we are vulnerable? Perhaps the lawyers have advised that there is a doubt whether we would win on the IP sale or some other issue?

It seems that to me that we've negotiated a settlement that is unpalatable this year but effectively secures our compliance with FFP for the next two years. Whereas if we'd gone to court and lost we would also found ourselves in breach of FFP for 13/14. And then UEFA really would have thrown the book at us.

I disagree it's a classic compromise UEFA got the headline and we got pretty meaningless sanctions, I still can't work out why they used the word fine? It's anything but a fine

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

id leave it Irwell. the bullies are circling

Certainly are. I don't agree with what he's saying but using the fact he likes guessing song tunes against him is a bit low.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Truly hate this ffp bollocks. Hate the fact (though i understand it) that we have had to basically say we are "financial cheats" because it benifits us in the long run but i suppose we all hold are tongues at work because its wise to do so. This Dupont lawyer, hope he brings the whole thing down, if not i can see one thing happening in the years to come. Some football team, Heerenveen, Bordeaux, Parma, Frankfurt, Celta Vigo pick any decent sized club you want will eventually have a couple of better than expected years on the pitch and then will be prevented from taking the next step and unlike us they won't have got into the City before the drawbridge went up. Some player will want to sign but their owner won't be able to spend his own money. Say a foreign team are in a posistion like Southampton are this year, sign some big names, their best players might stay, don't sign them names and thier best players might leave, shirley there is no better example of stunting growth in football clubs than that.Their owner will make a stand and no matter how you look at ffp it stops teams being able to take that step, to grow finacially, which will never stand up in court.

 

[Bill]

As Exeter say this is probably in the best interests of club, fucking annoying mind.

It will be worse for the club if they think we are a soft touch and pull the same shit next year. If we have done nothing wrong why lay down and let the whip hand of the cartel do what they wish with us.

Now we know where we stand and there's transparency, the cards are on the table so we know we'll comply from next year going forward.

In the bigger picture this is just a jab in a 12 round fight, we'll still move on and win things, fuck em

there should no need for compliance though. where was the compliance for the last 20 years when the same clubs creamed money from the completion? where was the ffp as they got richer and richer by a cartel that until we came along was as closed shop as closed shop could be.
why now? why now as we can lure players, outbid the cartel clubs, win bigger tv rights and everything associated with a successful club? why now?

because its Manchester city that's why. uefa couldn't give a flying fuck what psg and co do. they have only spanked them cos even platini has to save some face if possible. to him its worth ruffling a few feathers in France to ensure the cartel is repaired and back to the status quo asap.

dress it up all you like. compliance this, bargaining that, even talk about legal challenges but the bottom line is this is an attack on Manchester city football club. ffp would have had the tiniest bit of credence had it been brought in the moment roman arrived at chelski. uefa's silence on chelsea for the last ten years has been deafening.

 

[Marvin]

So is anyone going to appeal the sanctions? Has there been any official comment from Arsenal etc? I have not seen anything. I believe clubs have 10 days to lodge an appeal.

Next season we have to deal with a suspended fine, and CL squad restrictions. That's not too bad - as you would expect for a 1st "offence".

Next time we have agreed that for this season we must incur a loss no greater than 20m Euros. Surely we will not have agreed that unless we are confident we can do that. Therefore we take a PR hit, and disruption of next seasons Champions League campaign, but if we are breaking even now, then the issue is behind us.

Time to move on..........providing Arsenal, or someone else does not appeal.

It will be interesting if anyone else, in future years, falls foul of this regime. I suspect it will be quietly dropped.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

It will be interesting if anyone else, in future years, falls foul of this regime. I suspect it will be quietly dropped.

One of them will fail it eventually and the team below them not qualifying won't let it be dropped as it would cost them moneey and places, they will be fucked by their own cartel rules, can't wait.

 

[Bill]

oh and well done platini you slimy little fuck, every season ticket, every pie, every drink will have to be upped to add to the coffers to meet your demands. whilst you lord it on freebies proper working class fans suffer because of your pathetic agenda. I can see your plan, you want it unaffordable to attend games for us normal folk so rich fat **** tourists can take our place. the passion will die and our trophy attainment could suffer. well fuck you you fucking waste of skin, we are man city and we fight to the end.

btw any journo's reading this send it to the little ****.

 

[cleavers]

dress it up all you like. compliance this, bargaining that, even talk about legal challenges but the bottom line is this is an attack on Manchester city football club. ffp would have had the tiniest bit of credence had it been brought in the moment roman arrived at chelski. uefa's silence on chelsea for the last ten years has been deafening.

You don't really think that UEFA were just waiting for Manchester City to bring this in do you ?

It happened as it did because chelsea appeared to be a one off at the time, and they didn't threaten the red group of 3 that were the english part of the cartel at that time - Spurs would like you to think they were part of it, but they never were - and UEFA could afford a 4th british member, then a few other clubs across europe started becoming rich, City included.

When City came along, suddenly there was a threat to the original british three (ignore chelsea), and we immediately dispensed with one of them liverpool - though that was as much their own demise as it was our rise. If newcastle or everton had been the lucky destination for SM's money then they too would have been put in the same position by UEFA, but ultimately UEFA acted too late, and we had bolted in before they closed the door, so a few sanctions is our punishment (no matter how wrong it is), and we're safely in, and no other club will be getting in now, not unless they are very clever with their accounting anyway.