Fine Margins, rub of the Green, and Shocking Officials

[jimharri]

Ok,

More of the same, and i'm neither deluded nor blinded by my blue tinted specs, for 15 - 20 minutes we were excellent, one up, and could or should have been more, then the game turned...

De Gea rushes out and just beats Navas to the ball, one almighty hoof, hits Bogbrush on the back of the head, the cross comes in , admittedly poorly defended, Tom Daley gets there first, makes a hash of it, very luckily fall back perfectly for him, and from about 2 yards out, manages to hit the inside of the post, but still score. Heads drop, understandably, but not acceptable, Bogbrush then scores himself, despite being, and i quote Ratboy, " on the edge of offside" No he wasn't, he was offside, but hey ho, we don't get decisions like that. What a coincidence Mata then scores when he too was "on the edge of offside", so much so that Neville actually had to change it to "well no actually he was offside", but lets not make a fuss about it

From an promising start, the game turned, and yet again we flattered to deceive, and with a few exceptions our players were anonymous, and questionable at best. I accept ultimately we got what we deserved......NOTHING!

Having said that, fine margins, and rub of the green, and Twattenberg ain't getting away scottfree, he was, as used to be the norm, very dubious, and certainly not even handed, he gave them every 50/50, and then his cards came out, but nothing for them

Anyway, i am biased, not deluded, and hopefully things can only get better

Vinnie could very easily have walked today. Okay, he injured himself while he was running in to make the tackle, but it was a red card tackle. Clattenberg did him a favour there.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

When you lose 13 games after conceding first and in all those games notwithstanding the quality of Bayern and Barcelona who are clearly much better sides with arguably much better managers than we have and not having those sides score more than two goals in a game there is a fundamental problem with both the mindset and quality of the side as a group.

It's been well documented we are poor at set pieces and corners and we provide little threat from out wide all things that could and should be addressed but haven't.

Either our expensive players are poorly trained in the basics or just lack basic skills or management is doing little or nothing to improve the way we go about our game.

In any case changes have to be made both on and off the field.

Its nothing more than a change to hopefully address the obvious weaknesses in the playing squad and the inability of management to properly address these basic issues.

Margain , rubs and officialdom are secondary to overlooking the obvious things we don't have and won't have if we keep things as they are.

The manager needs to go and we have to bring in players with the ability to change games when we are behind or be able to shut out the opposition when we have done enough to get the wins required.

We had this in the first title season but it seems to have been totally lacking since Mancini went!

 

[trublue55]

Ok,

More of the same, and i'm neither deluded nor blinded by my blue tinted specs, for 15 - 20 minutes we were excellent, one up, and could or should have been more, then the game turned...

De Gea rushes out and just beats Navas to the ball, one almighty hoof, hits Bogbrush on the back of the head, the cross comes in , admittedly poorly defended, Tom Daley gets there first, makes a hash of it, very luckily fall back perfectly for him, and from about 2 yards out, manages to hit the inside of the post, but still score. Heads drop, understandably, but not acceptable, Bogbrush then scores himself, despite being, and i quote Ratboy, " on the edge of offside" No he wasn't, he was offside, but hey ho, we don't get decisions like that. What a coincidence Mata then scores when he too was "on the edge of offside", so much so that Neville actually had to change it to "well no actually he was offside", but lets not make a fuss about it

From an promising start, the game turned, and yet again we flattered to deceive, and with a few exceptions our players were anonymous, and questionable at best. I accept ultimately we got what we deserved......NOTHING!

Having said that, fine margins, and rub of the green, and Twattenberg ain't getting away scottfree, he was, as used to be the norm, very dubious, and certainly not even handed, he gave them every 50/50, and then his cards came out, but nothing for them

Anyway, i am biased, not deluded, and hopefully things can only get better

Vinnie could very easily have walked today. Okay, he injured himself while he was running in to make the tackle, but it was a red card tackle. Clattenberg did him a favour there.

Only my opinion, i didn't think it was a red card tackle, fortunately nor did the ref, however moments before their second goal Ya Ya goes down just outside their box, commentators stated that he had gone down easily, looking for a foul, but there was very little contact, when they showed the replay, his shirt was clearly and persistently being pulled, in clear view of the referee, no freekick, and no card

 

[jimharri]

Only my opinion, i didn't think it was a red card tackle, fortunately nor did the ref, however moments before their second goal Ya Ya goes down just outside their box, commentators stated that he had gone down easily, looking for a foul, but there was very little contact, when they showed the replay, his shirt was clearly and persistently being pulled, in clear view of the referee, no freekick, and no card

The way he went down did him no favours though. Yes, the shirt was pulled, and yes, we should have got a free kick for it. But he went down like he'd been clogged. I hate to see players making a meal of a nothing incident. If Young did it, he'd be getting slaughtered on here for it. And rightly so. I don't like seeing City players playacting/exaggerating incidents like that. And the argument that "players at every club do it" doesn't make it any more palatable for me when one of ours does it.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Borderline for me. I've seen reds given for less, and nothing given for worse. It probably wasn't a red imho, but it was wreckless and stupid given the potential consequences. As it happens, probably no consequences.

 

[Gordyola]

Only my opinion, i didn't think it was a red card tackle, fortunately nor did the ref, however moments before their second goal Ya Ya goes down just outside their box, commentators stated that he had gone down easily, looking for a foul, but there was very little contact, when they showed the replay, his shirt was clearly and persistently being pulled, in clear view of the referee, no freekick, and no card

The way he went down did him no favours though. Yes, the shirt was pulled, and yes, we should have got a free kick for it. But he went down like he'd been clogged. I hate to see players making a meal of a nothing incident. If Young did it, he'd be getting slaughtered on here for it. And rightly so. I don't like seeing City players playacting/exaggerating incidents like that. And the argument that "players at every club do it" doesn't make it any more palatable for me when one of ours does it.

There's a difference between diving, Young / Rooney, and being slyly fouled Yaya today and going down

 

[Mraitch]

There were 2 fouls by Rags that should have been yellow cards, a 2 footed lunge from behind by Harrera on Silva and the foul that forced Milner off. Fellaini elbowed Demechellis right in front of Clattenberg. There were numerous times when City players were pulled and tugged and no free kick given because they didn't go down yet Young got free kicks with little contact. It was certainly an unbalanced performance from the officials. We didn't play well by any means but we are not getting the rub of the green.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Stop making excuses. We were wank today end of. The players should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Stop making excuses. We were wank today end of. The players should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

We were and we may well have lost anyway but decisions and pure bad luck all went against us yet again.
The problem is we are weak mentally at the moment and we need the rub of the green. At the moment we're getting nothing in terms of
either luck or decisions.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Stop making excuses. We were wank today end of. The players should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

We were and we may well have lost anyway but decisions and pure bad luck all went against us yet again.
The problem is we are weak mentally at the moment and we need the rub of the green. At the moment we're getting nothing in terms of
either luck or decisions.

We would have lost because our players heads drop the minute they go down.

The team spirit is no longer there.

I see the cowards thread has been moved but that's exactly what some of them are.

Add that to a clueless manager and 6 losses in 8 is what you get!