Foden video

Marvin said:
I am half Iraqi. I am interested in which clubs Asians support. When I first started going to City, school was difficult but I liked being part of Manchester City. I have always felt accepted at City. There's only been the odd time when City fans have p'ssed me off. Once at Bradford in Joe Royle's season in the Premier League, and when some fans used to shout Fenian bastards at any Irish players but they were always tiny in number.

I travel by train a lot between Manchester and Leeds and I have noticed on a match night at Old Trafford there are very large numbers of Asian fans from the Leeds area who travel to support Utd. Recently when a load of trains were cancelled, on the night City played Sporting, and Utd were at home to Brighton, I got the stopping train back to Manchester and it was packed with Asian Utd fans. I asked the group at my table why they didn't support Leeds, and they said it was because Leeds are racist. I have no experience of that but I thought it was interesting. Leeds is very segregated. The only place you see white and Asian together is in student areas. Yorkshire reminds me a lot of Lancashire. Mill towns, and Asian families settling there to work as cheap labour and now of course there's no work. Asian way out is colleges, and trades like pharmacy.

City have never ever been a racist club. In fact just the opposite. I doubt many football clubs would have accepted a German paratrooper immediately after the 2nd world war, and made him a hero. That just shows how decent most City fans are. Most people are decent, even racists. It's a poisonous idea but over the years I have made friends with many racists. They still love their Mum and Dad and their own. It's an idea, like the ideas in Bert's head when he joined the Brownshirts. He wasn't a bad man. There's no such thing. And yet I still want to punch the lights out of the kids who abused Phil and his Mum. How did they get like that? Probably lots of rubbish in this ramble.
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I’m glad you feel at home watching City and I’m glad that your impression of the club is that it is an inclusive and friendly fanbase. I think that’s true too, but admittedly I am a white man from Manchester so I will be completely oblivious to a lot of the everyday prejudices other demographics face.

I am a season ticket holder in the south stand in all honesty I’ve never heard a single racist comment. If I did, I’d be calling out the idiot who made it, as would 99% of other Blues I’m sure.
 
freshie said:
"Foden did not have personal security alongside him at the event. City players are offered club security, although some prefer to hire personal bodyguards."

Perhaps next time he'll take the club up on their offer

From Jack Gaughan's article in the Mail
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He should slip his mum a couple of quid to be security. Problem solved if she has a plastic armband on
 
Marvin said:
I am half Iraqi. I am interested in which clubs Asians support. When I first started going to City, school was difficult but I liked being part of Manchester City. I have always felt accepted at City. There's only been the odd time when City fans have p'ssed me off. Once at Bradford in Joe Royle's season in the Premier League, and when some fans used to shout Fenian bastards at any Irish players but they were always tiny in number.

I travel by train a lot between Manchester and Leeds and I have noticed on a match night at Old Trafford there are very large numbers of Asian fans from the Leeds area who travel to support Utd. Recently when a load of trains were cancelled, on the night City played Sporting, and Utd were at home to Brighton, I got the stopping train back to Manchester and it was packed with Asian Utd fans. I asked the group at my table why they didn't support Leeds, and they said it was because Leeds are racist. I have no experience of that but I thought it was interesting. Leeds is very segregated. The only place you see white and Asian together is in student areas. Yorkshire reminds me a lot of Lancashire. Mill towns, and Asian families settling there to work as cheap labour and now of course there's no work. Asian way out is colleges, and trades like pharmacy.

City have never ever been a racist club. In fact just the opposite. I doubt many football clubs would have accepted a German paratrooper immediately after the 2nd world war, and made him a hero. That just shows how decent most City fans are. Most people are decent, even racists. It's a poisonous idea but over the years I have made friends with many racists. They still love their Mum and Dad and their own. It's an idea, like the ideas in Bert's head when he joined the Brownshirts. He wasn't a bad man. There's no such thing. And yet I still want to punch the lights out of the kids who abused Phil and his Mum. How did they get like that? Probably lots of rubbish in this ramble.
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Great post.

I worked with an Iranian who was a United fan, so obviously I asked him why.

He said when in Iran he used to love Leeds United so he moved there when he fled in the 70s. He went to few Leeds games when he arrived but stopped going because of the racist abuse that he got. He decided to go to watch Manchester United instead, as he loved his football, and the experience was completely different. He felt accepted so started supporting them instead.

Shocking really but backs up your own experiences.
 
1.618034 said:
Great post.

I worked with an Iranian who was a United fan, so obviously I asked him why.

He said when in Iran he used to love Leeds United so he moved there when he fled in the 70s. He went to few Leeds games when he arrived but stopped going because of the racist abuse that he got. He decided to go to watch Manchester United instead, as he loved his football, and the experience was completely different. He felt accepted so started supporting them instead.

Shocking really but backs up your own experiences.
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United the most racist club in the 70’s
 
EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
United the most racist club in the 70’s
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I don't agree with this. I think both Manchester clubs had a pretty good record of standing up to racists in the 70s. The National Front never got a foothold in the City of Manchester and both clubs had significant numbers of black and mixed-race fans in the 70s. I remember City and United joining forces to battle Leeds fans for example and also against Everton/Liverpool fans at the FA Cup replays. I have only ever seen isolated incidents of overt racism at City and even then it was quickly shouted down. The worst clubs for racism were Leeds, Chelsea, West Ham and Milwall. The Spurs fans were obnoxious in other ways but not Right Wing. That's my experience of growing up in South Manchester anyway.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I don't agree with this. I think both Manchester clubs had a pretty good record of standing up to racists in the 70s. The National Front never got a foothold in the City of Manchester and both clubs had significant numbers of black and mixed-race fans in the 70s. I remember City and United joining forces to battle Leeds fans for example and also against Everton/Liverpool fans at the FA Cup replays. I have only ever seen isolated incidents of overt racism at City and even then it was quickly shouted down. The worst clubs for racism were Leeds, Chelsea, West Ham and Milwall. The Spurs fans were obnoxious in other ways but not Right Wing. That's my experience of growing up in South Manchester anyway.
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True about Leeds......Utd had an away game at Leeds (last game of the season) Loads of City went. Think there were other times as well V liverpool can't remember. True about the two scousers at Maine Road too......Mancs V Scousers basically.

One of Utds top lads was mixed race too.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
Just a question for the walk away, turn the other cheek, be the bigger man brigade.

How far do you let wankers push it before you grow a pair of bollocks.
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Oh dear me...

I never have had wankers "push it" with me... they can't get to me... I've walked away out of reach.

I guess you believe that in order to be a real man you have to "take on" the wankers... if this is the case I feel sad for you.



JJ
 
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There was a lot of racism at Old Trafford. Maybe not as big as some of the other Clubs mentioned but many rags were a disgrace. I recall a game in the mid 80s when the Stretford End repeatly shouted, “Shoot that N…”, at the the Notts Forest defender, Chris Fairclough. Chris eventually lost his rag and got sent off for kicking a scum player.

Efforts have been made by Utd faces over the years to say the rags were “colour blind”, including in Tony O’Neil’s books, but the reality of the time was different.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
It sounded like there were some right cunts at taht fight the other night, load of them goading Tony Bellew as well.



Almost sounds like the same lot?
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That confirms what many City, United and Everton fans think about Liverpool fans. Kop6__ seems to be some ticket touting.

What is that Kop6_ handle? Is some kind of social media site? Not the first time I have seen that on video clips.
 
wagonman said:
Oh dear me...

I never have had wankers "push it" with me... they can't get to me... I've walked away out of reach.

I guess you believe that in order to be a real man you have to "take on" the wankers... if this is the case I feel sad for you.



JJ
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I`ll ask again, how far do you let these wankers push it.

You must have a button somewhere. Would you try and defend yourself or your family from verbal or physical assault or would you walk away and let your family deal with it.

Trouble doesn`t just walk away if you don`t want to get involved, it usually steps up a gear.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
I`ll ask again, how far do you let these wankers push it.

You must have a button somewhere. Would you try and defend yourself or your family from verbal or physical assault or would you walk away and let your family deal with it.

Trouble doesn`t just walk away if you don`t want to get involved, it usually steps up a gear.
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Call the police...let them worry about it....that's what they're paid for and why we pay income tax.
 
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