For anyone slagging off SWP......

[Anonymous]

Shaun's head has gone at the worst possible time in the season. Goes back to what I was saying the other day about just how badly advised he has been by the people around him, and just how thick he is to not have seen how much better it would've served his cause to play out of his skin all season, get to into the world cup squad, and then kick up a fuss about a new contract.

Having said that, on most other weeks, he'd have scored the chance that Gordon saved so well, and most on here would be crucifying the club for not giving him the money he wants.

It never ceases to amaze me the fine lines which separate a hero from a villain...

 

[ribbo]

its the same thing week in week out, SWP Richards Ireland always weakest links.

No room for sentiment it would be great if our academy players were good enough but their not, simple as that.

For me the real test of Mancini will be to see if these 3 at least has been discarded during the close season,

My fear is he has to play them and we will miss out on top 4, but surely will qualify for Europa.

Last season we failed to qualify due to Dunne and Richards nearly every week, and Ireland SWP Robinho and the other set of tossers we had up front only turning up for the easier home games, thankfully most of these have been cleared out, and thats why we have progressed this season.

 

[dctid]

Shaun's head has gone at the worst possible time in the season. Goes back to what I was saying the other day about just how badly advised he has been by the people around him, and just how thick he is to not have seen how much better it would've served his cause to play out of his skin all season, get to into the world cup squad, and then kick up a fuss about a new contract.

Having said that, on most other weeks, he'd have scored the chance that Gordon saved so well, and most on here would be crucifying the club for not giving him the money he wants.

It never ceases to amaze me the fine lines which separate a hero from a villain...

He could have scored a hat trick today would not change my mind - he need to shut the fook up until August - if he has played a significant part in a top 4 finish and had a good world cup (assuming he goes) then pay the fooker until then shut the fook up - alternatively had in a transfer request and go and earn an extra 20K a week at L:iverpool if the money is soo important - a tad hard somepeople may say but the comments from his gobshite father and made me ambivalent at best towards SWP<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:52 pm --<br /><br />

Shaun's head has gone at the worst possible time in the season. Goes back to what I was saying the other day about just how badly advised he has been by the people around him, and just how thick he is to not have seen how much better it would've served his cause to play out of his skin all season, get to into the world cup squad, and then kick up a fuss about a new contract.

Having said that, on most other weeks, he'd have scored the chance that Gordon saved so well, and most on here would be crucifying the club for not giving him the money he wants.

It never ceases to amaze me the fine lines which separate a hero from a villain...

He could have scored a hat trick today would not change my mind - he need to shut the fook up until August - if he has played a significant part in a top 4 finish and had a good world cup (assuming he goes) then pay the fooker until then shut the fook up - alternatively had in a transfer request and go and earn an extra 20K a week at L:iverpool if the money is soo important - a tad hard somepeople may say but the comments from his gobshite father and made me ambivalent at best towards SWP

 

[BTH]

Yeh! Actually, now that I think about it, you're all right and I'm completely wrong.

I mean, what's the useless tit ever done for us eh? Apart from providing more exictement than any other player in our recent history. And apart from sometimes being the only player on the pitch we can rely on to give 100% honest endeavour and creativity. For many seasons.

But his head is battered with his contract dispute and consequently - for the first time I can ever recall! - he didnt put a shift in today.

So fuck him. Lets get rid. Lets bring in Silva. No, wait...Lennon. Yeh lets go for him. In the meantime, lets turn on the lad because he's 28 now so nearly due his pension.

Crowd favourite you say? Pah, what does that matter? We're the richest club in the world. We can buy a new crowd favourite in every window.

If anyone - like some have on this thread - offers a reasoned critique of his recent form and question his place in the starting line-up.....fair enough I say.
If anyone turns on him.....get a fucking soul.

-- Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:33 pm --

You've been on here less than two months, and you're telling us all to "sod off" and questioning if some posts are "really worth putting your name to on here"?

This might surprise you jimharri but I wasnt actually born two months ago. I joined the site two months ago. So my opinions are as equally valid as anyone elses. Unless there is a ruling that states a member must post a certain amount of times before they are allowed to be frustrated at others slagging off his favourite City player? If there is such a ruling I aplogize oh wise veteran one.

As if your OP wasn't daft enough you then go and compound it with this. Another poster has already pointed out that this 'dispute' is of his own making - or at least his dad's! - never mind that it's two years' premature!

And if you can't ever recall him not putting a shift in before, then I don't where you're looking. $haun Wright-Phillip$ has been poor for most of the season. Now whether that's because he has set a high standard previously, the other players around him have improved, he's not as young as he was or because he's busy keeping the wolf from the door, I don't know, but what I do know is that he has been poorer this season than in previous seasons.

And besides, this is a forum after all. People are entitled to their opinions and to criticise if they see fit. Who are you to say otherwise? His agent? $WP can fight his own battles... Or maybe not.

Anyway, I'd already posted my views on another $WP-related thread. I don't think I'm being critical, but realistic in what, for many, are difficult times:

Watching Adam Johnson the other week I thought once he's scored one he'll get a hatful. Let's hope he does. Like most (all?) City fans I've always liked SWP for the fact that he's City through and through - or so I thought. The events of the last week or so with his dad (once again) pushing his nose in like some pushy parent on the touchline at a school game has soured things for me and, I suspect, a few more too.

If the £60k or whatever SWP gets by each week on isn't enough for him, then why did he sign the contract in the first place? Yes, I know big money's come in since then, but I'm afraid professional footballers need to take a reality check. They can't even spend the money they're earning.

Someone at the club needs to put the lot of them on a coach, take them around Manchester for the day and see what the vast majority of people are doing to earn £60K over a number of years - not in a week FFS. They also need to be told that there's a global recession on, businesses are going bust every day of the week, many ordinary, hard-working people are losing their jobs through no fault of their own and those that aren't are being offered pay rises of 1% or less - if they're being offered one at all.

If whatever City are paying him for the next two years isn't enough well, he's free to look elsewhere... or maybe his old fella can do it for him? Unfortunately for $haun Wright Phillip$, he represents the past and Adam Johnson (and hopefully a few more like him) is the future. So if the former goes, I for one won't be shedding any tears.

Fanx... ta-ra!

 

[herrock]

You can't accuse swp of not giving 100% but it is his general ball control and constant slipping over that is letting him down at the moment. He doesn't deserve to be slated off but he has to get his act together because Aj will step into his city and england position.

 

[1961_vintage]

Why post this? Swp was awful today, has been hit and miss all season and has his prick of a "father" diss-ing the club in the media. I don't know what you were expecting to achieve, but regardless of any previous he needs to sort himslef out on the pitch.

 

[Shaggy]

As for SWP, you got 2 years to run on your contract, really change games and light them up and the club might reconsider.

Here's a tip for him as well, when trying to beat defenders, dont kick the ball further in front of you than your height, most wingers keep the ball at their feet, not constantly trying to run on there own forward pass and being outpaced.

 

[Lucky Toma]

Yeh! Actually, now that I think about it, you're all right and I'm completely wrong.

I mean, what's the useless tit ever done for us eh? Apart from providing more exictement than any other player in our recent history. And apart from sometimes being the only player on the pitch we can rely on to give 100% honest endeavour and creativity. For many seasons.

But his head is battered with his contract dispute and consequently - for the first time I can ever recall! - he didnt put a shift in today.

So fuck him. Lets get rid. Lets bring in Silva. No, wait...Lennon. Yeh lets go for him. In the meantime, lets turn on the lad because he's 28 now so nearly due his pension.

Crowd favourite you say? Pah, what does that matter? We're the richest club in the world. We can buy a new crowd favourite in every window.

If anyone - like some have on this thread - offers a reasoned critique of his recent form and question his place in the starting line-up.....fair enough I say.
If anyone turns on him.....get a fucking soul.

-- Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:33 pm --



This might surprise you jimharri but I wasnt actually born two months ago. I joined the site two months ago. So my opinions are as equally valid as anyone elses. Unless there is a ruling that states a member must post a certain amount of times before they are allowed to be frustrated at others slagging off his favourite City player? If there is such a ruling I aplogize oh wise veteran one.

As if your OP wasn't daft enough you then go and compound it with this. Another poster has already pointed out that this 'dispute' is of his own making - or at least his dad's! - never mind that it's two years' premature!

And if you can't ever recall him not putting a shift in before, then I don't where you're looking. $haun Wright-Phillip$ has been poor for most of the season. Now whether that's because he has set a high standard previously, the other players around him have improved, he's not as young as he was or because he's busy keeping the wolf from the door, I don't know, but what I do know is that he has been poorer this season than in previous seasons.

And besides, this is a forum after all. People are entitled to their opinions and to criticise if they see fit. Who are you to say otherwise? His agent? $WP can fight his own battles... Maybe not.

Anyway, I'd already posted my views on another $WP-related thread. I don't think I'm being critical, but realistic in what, for many, are difficult times:

Watching Adam Johnson the other week I thought once he's scored one he'll get a hatful. Let's hope he does. Like most (all?) City fans I've always liked SWP for the fact that he's City through and through - or so I thought. The events of the last week or so with his dad (once again) pushing his nose in like some pushy parent on the touchline at a school game has soured things for me and, I suspect, a few more too.

If the £60k or whatever SWP gets by each week on isn't enough for him, then why did he sign the contract in the first place? Yes, I know big money's come in since then, but I'm afraid professional footballers need to take a reality check. They can't even spend the money they're earning.

Someone at the club needs to put the lot of them on a coach, take them around Manchester for the day and see what the vast majority of people are doing to earn £60K over a number of years - not in a week FFS. They also need to be told that there's a global recession on, businesses are going bust every day of the week, many ordinary, hard-working people are losing their jobs through no fault of their own and those that aren't are being offered pay rises of 1% or less - if they're being offered one at all.

If whatever City are paying him for the next two years isn't enough well, he's free to look elsewhere... or maybe his old fella can do it for him? Unfortunately for $haun Wright Phillip$, he represents the past and Adam Johnson (and hopefully a few more like him) is the future. So if the former goes, I for one won't be shedding any tears.

Fanx... ta-ra!

If you're going to trash my views and call them daft at least have the decency to read all of the thread yeh?
I have already explained why I wrote the line about his head being battered. I said it was the REASON for his insipid display today. That I wasnt defending him nor excusing him.
For the record I agree with pretty much everything thats been written on here about his contract dispute. It was atrociously timed and once his clown of a adopted father got involved it was always going to be messy and public.

 

[Carl_Man_City]

Themore I think of everything the more pissed of at him. Considering he wants a pay rise and turns in a performance like that is just pathetic.

Loyalty to City my arse just like every other footballer all about money.

He take fucking 60 grand a week as an insult he should be fucking grateful that hes been talented enough to be a footballer. To complain about that wage in a week when its what most of us on here earn in at least over a year is disgraceful.

 

[jimharri]

This might surprise you jimharri but I wasnt actually born two months ago. I joined the site two months ago. So my opinions are as equally valid as anyone elses. Unless there is a ruling that states a member must post a certain amount of times before they are allowed to be frustrated at others slagging off his favourite City player? If there is such a ruling I aplogize oh wise veteran one.

If you care to show me where I said you were born two months ago, I'd be most grateful. Also, as I'M sure you are aware, there is no rule that you have to post a certain number of times before you can slag off City players. I just find it annoying that you are only on here a short time and you're telling people to "sod off" because they dare to criticize a player who has frankly done very little this season. Try reading this;
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In particular, "Please remember to treat fellow posters with respect. Treat others as you'd expect to be treated. If you are constantly aggressive and confrontational on here you'll get banned."

 

[BTH]

If you're going to trash my views and call them daft at least have the decency to read all of the thread yeh?
I have already explained why I wrote the line about his head being battered. I said it was the REASON for his insipid display today. That I wasnt defending him nor excusing him.

I wouldn't normally respond to anyone who turns a statement into a question by tacking an irritating and quite superfluous, never mind misspelt 'yeh' onto the end of it, but in your case I'll make an exception.

This is a forum. People who post on it have views. Sometimes their views are different to those of other people. I have read your views. And, on this occasion, I disagree with your views. I also think your original post was a daft one. On another occasion I may agree with you, yeah?

P.S. Does the name 'Dale Carnegie' mean anything to you?

 

[Lucky Toma]

Jimjarri I apologized for my original post. The apology came before a lot of the flak I'm currently getting and was completely voluntary.
I also explained - to my own detriment - that I wrote it in haste.

But the respect goes both ways doesnt it? If someone is relatively new to the board and puts up a genuinely heartfelt post - a belligerent one yes but certainly not on the confrontational scale I have seen elsewhere at times - then isnt it ill-form for an experienced member to try and embarrass that new member?
Isnt that a bit out of order too?

 

[rickmcfc]

He wasn't great today, but he is a Blue, one of our own. I never thought I would see the day when City fans turned on Shaun, it's fucking sad if you ask me.

Fair enough, his dad is a twat but it isn't Shaun that went shouting his mouth off to the press, it was that gobby prick.

Just to put you in your place, yes shaun did go mouthing off to the press, there was a full page spread on him with his quotes in the sun. If a player isnt good enough he aint good enough, and thats the reality of it.

 

[BTH]

He wasn't great today, but he is a Blue, one of our own. I never thought I would see the day when City fans turned on Shaun, it's fucking sad if you ask me.

Fair enough, his dad is a twat but it isn't Shaun that went shouting his mouth off to the press, it was that gobby prick.

Just to put you in your place, yes shaun did go mouthing off to the press, there was a full page spread on him with his quotes in the sun. If a player isnt good enough he aint good enough, and thats the reality of it.

Not only did he 'mouth off' about it, but in The Scum too! Lest we forget, this is the same Tory propaganda sheet that featured a full page, full colour shot of Marc-Vivien Foé dying on the pitch on its front page.

 

[rickmcfc]

Just to put you in your place, yes shaun did go mouthing off to the press, there was a full page spread on him with his quotes in the sun. If a player isnt good enough he aint good enough, and thats the reality of it.

Not only did he 'mouth off' about it, but in The Scum too! Lest we forget, this is the same Tory propaganda sheet that featured a full page, full colour shot of Marc-Vivien Foé dying on the pitch on its front page.

Why is that bad??? Did they slag him off or something???

 

[Lucky Toma]

If you're going to trash my views and call them daft at least have the decency to read all of the thread yeh?
I have already explained why I wrote the line about his head being battered. I said it was the REASON for his insipid display today. That I wasnt defending him nor excusing him.

I wouldn't normally respond to anyone who turns a statement into a question by tacking an irritating and quite superfluous, never mind misspelt 'yeh' onto the end of it, but in your case I'll make an exception.

This is a forum. People who post on it have views. Sometimes their views are different to those of other people. I have read your views. And, on this occasion, I disagree with your views. I also think your original post was a daft one. On another occasion I may agree with you, yeah?

P.S. Does the name 'Dale Carnegie' mean anything to you?

It was a request not a statement so its perfectly acceptable to finish with a question mark. I simply missed the 'a' out of 'yeah' because people are sniffing blood and I'll be fucked if I'm going down without a fight so I wrote my reply quickly in order to defend myself against someone else.
But haha yes I do know who Dale Carnegie is. Point taken. There is a Cher song in my head right now. The one where she looks like a bloke in drag in the video sitting astride a gun-turret on a ship.

 

[jimharri]

Jimjarri I apologized for my original post. The apology came before a lot of the flak I'm currently getting and was completely voluntary.
I also explained - to my own detriment - that I wrote it in haste.

But the respect goes both ways doesnt it? If someone is relatively new to the board and puts up a genuinely heartfelt post - a belligerent one yes but certainly not on the confrontational scale I have seen elsewhere at times - then isnt it ill-form for an experienced member to try and embarrass that new member?
Isnt that a bit out of order too?

If you felt embarrassed by my comments or the facepalm pic, I apologise; that was not the intention. However, as you have already admitted, there are far more confrontational remarks to be found on this forum than my one (or indeed, yours). If you were embarrassed by my post, you'd better develop a thick skin if you are going to hang around the twilight zone that is BlueMoon. And once again, apologies. Still think SWP doesn't deserve his place in the team ahead of Johnson though. We'll have to agree to disagree on him.

 

[Lucky Toma]

Jimjarri I apologized for my original post. The apology came before a lot of the flak I'm currently getting and was completely voluntary.
I also explained - to my own detriment - that I wrote it in haste.

But the respect goes both ways doesnt it? If someone is relatively new to the board and puts up a genuinely heartfelt post - a belligerent one yes but certainly not on the confrontational scale I have seen elsewhere at times - then isnt it ill-form for an experienced member to try and embarrass that new member?
Isnt that a bit out of order too?

If you felt embarrassed by my comments or the facepalm pic, I apologise; that was not the intention. However, as you have already admitted, there are far more confrontational remarks to be found on this forum than my one (or indeed, yours). If you were embarrassed by my post, you'd better develop a thick skin if you are going to hang around the twilight zone that is BlueMoon. And once again, apologies. Still think SWP doesn't deserve his place in the team ahead of Johnson though. We'll have to agree to disagree on him.

Thank you mate. Sorry if I was a bit of a cock. You hit the nail on the head with the thick skin comment. Just had the shittiest weekend imaginable so it probably wasnt a wise idea for me to put up my original post. Must have a masochistic streak I wasnt previously aware of haha.

 

[mackenzie]

This whole love affair with SWP really annoys me. He couldn't wait to get in his car and pull the Chelski shirt on just a few hours later. I understood when other fans said he was simply looking out for his future, but it still made me sick at the time.

I was glad to see him come back because on his day he can do things that, at that time, we were sorely lacking. Now all this shite about wanting more money, coupled with the "loyalty to City" nonsense, is making me angry.

Compare him to Dunne. Dunne didn't want to leave City, gave 100 percent in every match and when did you hear Dunne bleat on like a selfish kid whilst insulting the intelligence of the clubs fans?

I really want to scream when people go on about SWP as if he is somehow a player that is beyond criticism.

Shaun...get your act together, shut up, get your dad to shut up too and start playing as if you mean what you say in the gutter press.

EDIT...this was not meant as a go at the OP. More a rant against this fixation of SWP that some have. It has been going on for too long IMHO.<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:34 pm --<br /><br />And one more thing on the topic of SWP. ;-)

When we played Chelsea at ours a few seasons back, and SWP got cheered whilst a player that had the City shirt on got booed (before he even stepped on the pitch!!).

It happened and it was disgraceful.

 

[Carl_Man_City]

This whole love affair with SWP really annoys me. He couldn't wait to get in his car and pull the Chelski shirt on just a few hours later. I understood when other fans said he was simply looking out for his future, but it still made me sick at the time.

I was glad to see him come back because on his day he can do things that, at that time, we were sorely lacking. Now all this shite about wanting more money, coupled with the "loyalty to City" nonsense, is making me angry.

Compare him to Dunne. Dunne didn't want to leave City, gave 100 percent in every match and when did you hear Dunne bleat on like a selfish kid whilst insulting the intelligence of the clubs fans?

I really want to scream when people go on about SWP as if he is somehow a player that is beyond criticism.

Shaun...get your act together, shut up, get your dad to shut up too and start playing as if you mean what you say in the gutter press.

EDIT...this was not meant as a go at the OP. More a rant against this fixation of SWP that some have. It has been going on for too long IMHO.

-- Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:34 pm --

And one more thing on the topic of SWP. ;-)

When we played Chelsea at ours a few seasons back, and SWP got cheered whilst a player that had the City shirt on got booed (before he even stepped on the pitch!!).

It happened and it was disgraceful.

correct he should be embarrased after today after all his fucking whinging.

If we give him the luxurious contract it sends ou the complete wrong message