For those who think National Healthcare is a bad idea...

I do find the NHS needs to get tough though as it's too susceptible to abuse. From missing appointments to people turning up at A&E's with a headache, you wouldn't get that when it's costing you $500a pop.
No, but you'd get a lot of people not bothering going for something less serious if they had to pay for it. And then they'd turn up a month later requiring a far more expensive intervention.
 
No, but you'd get a lot of people not bothering going for something less serious if they had to pay for it. And then they'd turn up a month later requiring a far more expensive intervention.
Very true. I'm 100% with you on state healthcare and you won't find a bigger champion for it coming from a family of nurses in their third generation.

They all agree the abuse needs to be managed. People need to realise its not acceptable to get shit faced and turn up at an A&E steaming drunk causing a scene when there can be sick children and elderly patients waiting. Not to mention the strain caused by drug addicts and alcoholics, which is significant. People take advantage of it because its free, so there needs to be some semblance of self responsibility.
 
Very true. I'm 100% with you on state healthcare and you won't find a bigger champion for it coming from a family of nurses in their third generation.

They all agree the abuse needs to be managed. People need to realise its not acceptable to get shit faced and turn up at an A&E steaming drunk causing a scene when there can be sick children and elderly patients waiting. Not to mention the strain caused by drug addicts and alcoholics, which is significant. People take advantage of it because its free, so there needs to be some semblance of self responsibility.
that is all true, but the "real" abuse is the systematic raping of the NHS by "big pharma", the PFI scandal, " Agencies" charging hundreds per shift, consultants charging thousands per case after they themselves recommend the "consultation", the lack of over-sight in out-sourcing "deals".
Vultures feasting on a stricken soon-to-be-dead noble institution.....no wonder brexit was pursued so ruthlessly, the EU was their biggest obstacle with it's "free at the point of need" rule.
 
that is all true, but the "real" abuse is the systematic raping of the NHS by "big pharma", the PFI scandal, " Agencies" charging hundreds per shift, consultants charging thousands per case after they themselves recommend the "consultation", the lack of over-sight in out-sourcing "deals".
Vultures feasting on a stricken soon-to-be-dead noble institution.....no wonder brexit was pursued so ruthlessly, the EU was their biggest obstacle with it's "free at the point of need" rule.
Absolutely absolutely true (see my post on the Tories). But people abusing it and having absolutely no respect for it doesn't help the situation.
 

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