ElanJo
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How do you force someone into marriage? Are we talking blackmail or are we literally talking about physically forcing some 'up the isle' etc?
G'eeb works a treat (I hear)corky1970 said:SWP's back said:Course we should you intolerant buffoon.Ducado said:To be fair there are opinions and opinions, your opinion appears to tolerate and accept slavery, which is abhorrent to most people on this forum (and I guess in the country as a whole).
So if you come on here espousing those opinions don't be surprised if you get stick, and don't use the culture and equality argument it does not wash, like I said before in some countries it's perfectly acceptable to stone women to death for adultery are you saying we should allow that here?
i find it best for women to be stoned when you want them to do "stuff"
Damocles said:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/forced-marriage-to-be-a-crime-6275519.html
Forced marriages are to become a criminal offence under plans to be unveiled by Theresa May this week.
The Home Secretary will launch a consultation on creating a specific offence of forcing someone into a marriage against their will. In 2010, the Forced Marriage Unit dealt with 1,735 possible cases of forced marriage, although the number of cases is thought to be significantly under-reported. A new law in Scotland allows courts to issue protection orders specifically tailored to the needs of the victim, with a breach of an order a criminal offence. David Cameron has called forced marriage "little more than slavery".
In a separate move, Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, will promise tougher laws to tackle domestic violence, including changing the law to cover under-18s.
Obviously, they have always been illegal in this country but the new legislation will decide that any marriages that are forced marriages will not be recognised under British law.
This is great for two reasons. Firstly, forced marriages are slavery in another form and there are many who meet over here, go on holiday, get a forced marriage then come back with a legal certificate which was recognised. This will no longer be the case.
Secondly, this will be a good idea because the type of people who would force somebody into a marriage are the type of people that we do not want in our society. This will make them reconsider moving back here in the first place.
Good idea by the Government, fully behind it.
pauldominic said:Damocles said:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/forced-marriage-to-be-a-crime-6275519.html
Forced marriages are to become a criminal offence under plans to be unveiled by Theresa May this week.
The Home Secretary will launch a consultation on creating a specific offence of forcing someone into a marriage against their will. In 2010, the Forced Marriage Unit dealt with 1,735 possible cases of forced marriage, although the number of cases is thought to be significantly under-reported. A new law in Scotland allows courts to issue protection orders specifically tailored to the needs of the victim, with a breach of an order a criminal offence. David Cameron has called forced marriage "little more than slavery".
In a separate move, Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, will promise tougher laws to tackle domestic violence, including changing the law to cover under-18s.
Obviously, they have always been illegal in this country but the new legislation will decide that any marriages that are forced marriages will not be recognised under British law.
This is great for two reasons. Firstly, forced marriages are slavery in another form and there are many who meet over here, go on holiday, get a forced marriage then come back with a legal certificate which was recognised. This will no longer be the case.
Secondly, this will be a good idea because the type of people who would force somebody into a marriage are the type of people that we do not want in our society. This will make them reconsider moving back here in the first place.
Good idea by the Government, fully behind it.
Its increasingly important to defend our values and I agree 100%.
In my opinion, what makes the UK so great is our tolerance of national cultures and willingness to learn and integrate.
People can be given the option, but it's a shame that there's such a stigma attached to couples that refuse to get married.nashark said:Damocles said:Obviously, they have always been illegal in this country but the new legislation will decide that any marriages that are forced marriages will not be recognised under British law.
Not good enough Dave.
Marriage should not be recognised full stop.
MCFC BOB said:People can be given the option, but it's a shame that there's such a stigma attached to couples that refuse to get married.nashark said:Damocles said:Obviously, they have always been illegal in this country but the new legislation will decide that any marriages that are forced marriages will not be recognised under British law.
Not good enough Dave.
Marriage should not be recognised full stop.
SWP's back said:You'll notice racism and capital punishment, like forced marriages, are illegal in the UK.
But thanks for your input.
gordondaviesmoustache said:pauldominic said:Damocles said:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/forced-marriage-to-be-a-crime-6275519.html
Obviously, they have always been illegal in this country but the new legislation will decide that any marriages that are forced marriages will not be recognised under British law.
This is great for two reasons. Firstly, forced marriages are slavery in another form and there are many who meet over here, go on holiday, get a forced marriage then come back with a legal certificate which was recognised. This will no longer be the case.
Secondly, this will be a good idea because the type of people who would force somebody into a marriage are the type of people that we do not want in our society. This will make them reconsider moving back here in the first place.
Good idea by the Government, fully behind it.
Its increasingly important to defend our values and I agree 100%.
In my opinion, what makes the UK so great is our tolerance of national cultures and willingness to learn and integrate.
I thought it was the Full English Breakfast (with or without black pudding) and The Sun newspaper which made this country so great.
ElanJo said:How do you force someone into marriage? Are we talking blackmail or are we literally talking about physically forcing some 'up the isle' etc?
kennycar said:Smacks of bringing in a bit of pointless and unworkable legislation that most people can agree in principle with. In order that they can distract people from the cuts.
A bit like this episode of yes minister.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIYP1ibYdZI[/youtube]
pauldominic said:ElanJo said:How do you force someone into marriage? Are we talking blackmail or are we literally talking about physically forcing some 'up the isle' etc?
Which aisle would that be? Aisle of Man?