Formula 1 2022

eversince 76 said:
Well, the continuing influence Mercedes has within F1 couldn’t be clearer. Masi receiving a proposal to accept another job within F1. They had to give Wolff something didn’t they.

Doesn’t change what happened on the day though. Rex Bull attacked during the time cars were following the safety car. They changed tires. Mercedes defended and didn’t change tires. No fault or cheating by the drivers, just their team anticipating on what was going on.

Anyway, the positive from this is teammanagers aren’t allowed to make contact to the jury during the race. That will stop Horner and Wolff moaning and drivers can concentrate on racing.

Oh, and FIA are introducing VAR. Well, if that works as well as in football, teammanagers will still have a lot to moan about.
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Lol.
 
I thought that, after the controversial end to last season, that there would have been a lot of off track action over the winter. But I don't remember hearing much. Did Mercedes decide to let it go in the end, or is there still possible legal avenues open to them to pursue?
 
jimharri said:
I thought that, after the controversial end to last season, that there would have been a lot of off track action over the winter. But I don't remember hearing much. Did Mercedes decide to let it go in the end, or is there still possible legal avenues open to them to pursue?
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Just quietly upgraded their car
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Red Bull and Mercedes have had a mare in testing, supposedly. Well off the pace. Could be a more open season this year.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Red Bull and Mercedes have had a mare in testing, supposedly. Well off the pace. Could be a more open season this year.
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Not sure about Red Bull but Mercedes have just had a few shakedown laps around Silverstone in the freezing cold pissing rain so can't see them reading too much into it yet.
 
I was talking to mate of mine a few days ago who’s a huge fan of F1, goes all over the world watching races through his job who sponsor one of the teams. He was telling me the consensus in the paddock and with all businesses involved etc was the uproar of the result was far preferable to the race ending under safety car. They are extremely aware of how those anticlimactic ends to races occur in America and don’t want to go that route. The controversy of the last race was an absolute godsend because regardless of what’s being said by press, fans etc it still kept it in the news and that’s literally all sponsors care about.
He didn’t go as far as saying Masi was instructed by others to do what he did, but it’s common knowledge that he would’ve been expected to do it if necessary.
 
BLUEYESTU said:
I was talking to mate of mine a few days ago who’s a huge fan of F1, goes all over the world watching races through his job who sponsor one of the teams. He was telling me the consensus in the paddock and with all businesses involved etc was the uproar of the result was far preferable to the race ending under safety car. They are extremely aware of how those anticlimactic ends to races occur in America and don’t want to go that route. The controversy of the last race was an absolute godsend because regardless of what’s being said by press, fans etc it still kept it in the news and that’s literally all sponsors care about.
He didn’t go as far as saying Masi was instructed by others to do what he did, but it’s common knowledge that he would’ve been expected to do it if necessary.
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That’s what most ‘sports’ have turned into. The integrity of the regulations are manipulated or thrown out of the window in order to keep the entertainment entertainment value and the sponsors pumping more money in.

We now have to take all results with a large dump of salt.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
That’s what most ‘sports’ have turned into. The integrity of the regulations are manipulated or thrown out of the window in order to keep the entertainment entertainment value and the sponsors pumping more money in.

We now have to take all results with a large dump of salt.
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Sad but true.
 
BLUEYESTU said:
I was talking to mate of mine a few days ago who’s a huge fan of F1, goes all over the world watching races through his job who sponsor one of the teams. He was telling me the consensus in the paddock and with all businesses involved etc was the uproar of the result was far preferable to the race ending under safety car. They are extremely aware of how those anticlimactic ends to races occur in America and don’t want to go that route. The controversy of the last race was an absolute godsend because regardless of what’s being said by press, fans etc it still kept it in the news and that’s literally all sponsors care about.
He didn’t go as far as saying Masi was instructed by others to do what he did, but it’s common knowledge that he would’ve been expected to do it if necessary.
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I’ve no doubt that’s true, sad isn’t it.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
That’s what most ‘sports’ have turned into. The integrity of the regulations are manipulated or thrown out of the window in order to keep the entertainment entertainment value and the sponsors pumping more money in.

We now have to take all results with a large dump of salt.
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I'd imagine that, without sponsors, you may well not have a F1. At least, not as you recognise it right now. I'm guessing the cost of running the Mercedes and Red Bull teams for a season is eye watering.
 
BLUEYESTU said:
I was talking to mate of mine a few days ago who’s a huge fan of F1, goes all over the world watching races through his job who sponsor one of the teams. He was telling me the consensus in the paddock and with all businesses involved etc was the uproar of the result was far preferable to the race ending under safety car. They are extremely aware of how those anticlimactic ends to races occur in America and don’t want to go that route. The controversy of the last race was an absolute godsend because regardless of what’s being said by press, fans etc it still kept it in the news and that’s literally all sponsors care about.
He didn’t go as far as saying Masi was instructed by others to do what he did, but it’s common knowledge that he would’ve been expected to do it if necessary.
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Dunno what they were talking about regarding the American series. A few of the series in the US including NASCAR are the only ones I know of that actively try to avoid finishes under the safety car or under caution as they call it.

They have a green white chequered finish.

"The green-white-checker finish is a rule implemented into many levels of automobile racing in the United States as a way to ensure that fans would see a green flag finish. The rule gives the field an attempt to finish the race under a green-flag condition. Under such conditions, drivers take the green with two laps to go, then get the white flag, signaling one lap to go, and then take the checkered flag, signaling the end of the race."
 
jimharri said:
I'd imagine that, without sponsors, you may well not have a F1. At least, not as you recognise it right now. I'm guessing the cost of running the Mercedes and Red Bull teams for a season is eye watering.
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Very true, but you would hope that they were there for what’s on show, not what has been scripted.
 
Fuck it, not giving it the time of day after that fiasco last season.

Get rid of safety cars, pit the field then release them at the time intervals they had before pitting.

That has to be the fairest way, all safety cars are for is to compress the field and make the actual race a whole series of shorter ones.
 
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