Fraud at work.

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Just generally interested if anyone has had a similar experience to mine?

I've left out the details as the individuals may be members of the forum, or may know someone who posts here.

Nearly 30 years now, as a youngster I worked for a small computer supplies/office furniture company as an assistant purchaser. I started as a sort of YTS trainee and after about 4 months was taken on full time.

We held some items in stock, but mainly we sold bulk paper, and printer supplies, as well as other office consumables on demand. An order would come in from the sales team, and we would process the purchase orders to satisfy the demand.

Now the sales team were on a weekly/monthly target, set by the management team. Often, the management team would sanction incentives in order to keep the sales department 'on their toes'.

The sales manager (let's call her Barbara) was in charge of the incentives, and would drip feed them into the working week. Barbara was also eligible for incentive bonuses as she also had customer accounts to tender, which was a huge conflict of interest. One of the sales team (we shall call her Doris) was particularly good at getting late afternoon/end of week sales, which generally meant she had more than her fair share of bonuses; at the time, I just figured she was good at sales.

One of my other tasks involved printing out account reports, which included customer account (sales figures), orders, related purchase orders, delivery of orders, invoicing and payments. Generally I just filed these away in the archive, but occasionally I would glance over them.

For some reason, when I was flicking through the reports, something caught my eye, and I noticed a particularly large order which jogged my memory from a couple of weeks before. It was on a late Friday afternoon, and it was from Doris. The order was for a pallet of paper by one of her regular customers. It stuck in my mind because I remember she'd got a fairly substantial bonus for that order, and Barbara also got a bonus for making the Monthly target.

The reason particular order caught my eye is that The following Monday after the order was entered on to the system, the delivery date had been pushed back 2 months, and that entry had been made on the account before 9am, before anyone would have contacted the office (remember, this was before email). This caused me to investigate further, so I dug in to the archive.

What I uncovered was systematic abuse of the accounts where there were multiple accounts of Doris and Barbara doing essentially the same thing, taking fictitious orders, claiming the bonuses, shifting the delivery date, then dropping the order off the system about 6 months later over about a 2 year period. I showed this evidence to a trusted colleague, who confirmed that I wasn't going mad, and that this essentially looked like fraud.

I then took it to my line manager (Kevin; obviously not his real name), who at the time I didn't realise was part of the social circle of the Sales Manager, Barbara and that his wife was a good friend of hers. Kevin seemed to take my allegations seriously at first, and demanded to see my evidence. In the mean time, I'd gone to the accounts department and managed to see the bonus payment record, which corroborated my finding from the customer accounts records.

The next week I came into the office as Doris was being led out of the main conference room, clutching a tissue to her nose looking very red faced, closely followed by Barbara. I will never forget the death stares that I got from Barbara. When I got back upstairs, the atmosphere in the office was very different. Doris and Barbara were still at their desks, and my desk had been cleared in the purchasing department. No of the other sales team members would even look at me, let alone talk to me. At that moment I was told to report to the warehouse where I was to assist with the annual stocktaking. I'd had my report reading privileges account removed from the computer system, and no longer allowed access to the archive room. I was 'let go' from the company some 6 weeks later, as my job was 'no longer needed'. It was, but I found out they got another trainee to cover it.

I subsequently found out that Barbara had been informed of my findings, and that she basically blamed Doris for making a mistake and not reporting it. Doris had to pay back about £200 of bonus that she shouldn't have had (I'd presented evidence that she'd scammed a whole lot more than that, probably £8,000 -10,000 between Doris and Barbara). Both Doris and Barbara continued to work for the company long after I left, and Is far as I know, still getting their bonuses.

I never took it any further, but knowing what I do now I would have taken it further and at least pushed for constructive dismissal, possibly even gone to the police. But life is full of experiences, and I'm definitely wiser for it.
 
Just generally interested if anyone has had a similar experience to mine?

I've left out the details as the individuals may be members of the forum, or may know someone who posts here.

Nearly 30 years now, as a youngster I worked for a small computer supplies/office furniture company as an assistant purchaser. I started as a sort of YTS trainee and after about 4 months was taken on full time.

We held some items in stock, but mainly we sold bulk paper, and printer supplies, as well as other office consumables on demand. An order would come in from the sales team, and we would process the purchase orders to satisfy the demand.

Now the sales team were on a weekly/monthly target, set by the management team. Often, the management team would sanction incentives in order to keep the sales department 'on their toes'.

The sales manager (let's call her Barbara) was in charge of the incentives, and would drip feed them into the working week. Barbara was also eligible for incentive bonuses as she also had customer accounts to tender, which was a huge conflict of interest. One of the sales team (we shall call her Doris) was particularly good at getting late afternoon/end of week sales, which generally meant she had more than her fair share of bonuses; at the time, I just figured she was good at sales.

One of my other tasks involved printing out account reports, which included customer account (sales figures), orders, related purchase orders, delivery of orders, invoicing and payments. Generally I just filed these away in the archive, but occasionally I would glance over them.

For some reason, when I was flicking through the reports, something caught my eye, and I noticed a particularly large order which jogged my memory from a couple of weeks before. It was on a late Friday afternoon, and it was from Doris. The order was for a pallet of paper by one of her regular customers. It stuck in my mind because I remember she'd got a fairly substantial bonus for that order, and Barbara also got a bonus for making the Monthly target.

The reason particular order caught my eye is that The following Monday after the order was entered on to the system, the delivery date had been pushed back 2 months, and that entry had been made on the account before 9am, before anyone would have contacted the office (remember, this was before email). This caused me to investigate further, so I dug in to the archive.

What I uncovered was systematic abuse of the accounts where there were multiple accounts of Doris and Barbara doing essentially the same thing, taking fictitious orders, claiming the bonuses, shifting the delivery date, then dropping the order off the system about 6 months later over about a 2 year period. I showed this evidence to a trusted colleague, who confirmed that I wasn't going mad, and that this essentially looked like fraud.

I then took it to my line manager (Kevin; obviously not his real name), who at the time I didn't realise was part of the social circle of the Sales Manager, Barbara and that his wife was a good friend of hers. Kevin seemed to take my allegations seriously at first, and demanded to see my evidence. In the mean time, I'd gone to the accounts department and managed to see the bonus payment record, which corroborated my finding from the customer accounts records.

The next week I came into the office as Doris was being led out of the main conference room, clutching a tissue to her nose looking very red faced, closely followed by Barbara. I will never forget the death stares that I got from Barbara. When I got back upstairs, the atmosphere in the office was very different. Doris and Barbara were still at their desks, and my desk had been cleared in the purchasing department. No of the other sales team members would even look at me, let alone talk to me. At that moment I was told to report to the warehouse where I was to assist with the annual stocktaking. I'd had my report reading privileges account removed from the computer system, and no longer allowed access to the archive room. I was 'let go' from the company some 6 weeks later, as my job was 'no longer needed'. It was, but I found out they got another trainee to cover it.

I subsequently found out that Barbara had been informed of my findings, and that she basically blamed Doris for making a mistake and not reporting it. Doris had to pay back about £200 of bonus that she shouldn't have had (I'd presented evidence that she'd scammed a whole lot more than that, probably £8,000 -10,000 between Doris and Barbara). Both Doris and Barbara continued to work for the company long after I left, and Is far as I know, still getting their bonuses.

I never took it any further, but knowing what I do now I would have taken it further and at least pushed for constructive dismissal, possibly even gone to the police. But life is full of experiences, and I'm definitely wiser for it.

We need pictures of Doris and Barbara to see how fit they are.
 
Perhaps write an anonymous letter to the overall boss but otherwise just move on. They get caught eventually.
 
Placing an order, deferring delivery and then cancelling the order is pretty standard practice if a sales person can get away with it

One company I worked for was quite lax with credit notes
A sales director here, who really thought he was Billy big nuts, was always top of the sales charts
One of our products was tinned pears and we sold these at 28p (zero rate)
They were being retailed in Billy's largest account at 29p and the MD couldn't understand why
After a little digging, it was found that the invoice had been raised correctly then a credit note immediately passed through which would reduce the cost to 20p
More digging proceeded with other substantial credit notes found.
A meeting was called and the director (who was the MD's brother in law), resigned
 
I'm a counter-fraud and investigation consultant and your tale is a very familiar one. One thing I've found over 37 years is that companies that tolerate fraud, and there are many of them, have a culture of fraud which ends up biting them on the arse. You were better off out.

Funnily enough, I have a similar story from around 40 years ago when I got a summer job in the order department of a prestigious bookshop in central Manchester. I was actually replacing a guy who had broken his arm and who, for the sake of discretion, we'll call John Smith. The job involved taking deposits on books, ordering books and, when the book came in, notifying the customer who collected it and paid the balance. Most transactions were in cash.The (to me) old ladies in the office kept saying "John Smith didn't do it like that" or "John Smith did it that way", to the point I got thoroughly sick of this god-like figure who did everything pefectly.

When I left, the manager shook my hand and thanked me for my hard work and "honesty", I actually asked him how he knew and he just laughed.

6 months later John Smith was arrested for pocketing the cash. Turned out, in his absence, the takings had rocketed so they began watching him. That's why, in cases like the one you describe, the first person you look at is the one that's never off sick and appears to be the hardest worker.
 
Workplace nepotism can be rife. In our publishers, we had the director’s daughter, his daughter-in-law, his nephew, a manager’s daughter, a manager’s mum, our assistant manager’s friend and the HR manager’s friend placed in our department over the space of six years. Ability seemed to count for nothing.

The nephew was the worst of the lot. He’d do maybe two hours work a day and just otherwise fuck around. He went from work experience to part time to full time because our manager was being controlled by hers. It took two of us threatening to leave unless he was sacked.

I’ve never experienced anything like that since. There’s been drinking cliques and token promotions to stop people leaving but nothing as bad as the big unhappy family.
 

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