Frenkie de Jong

[decmancity]

I honestly just don’t think he’s that good

He hasn't progressed since he moved there. Been coached by crap managers and had a pretty shit team around him.

 

[Phil1]

Had his chance, he’s have been a superstar had he made the move a few years ago.
I’d be very very surprised to see us even entertain a bid for him again.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Had his chance, he’s have been a superstar had he made the move a few years ago.
I’d be very very surprised to see us even entertain a bid for him again.

Laporte got a second chance. I’d be surprised if we went back, but it’s not totally out of the question. It’d be down to money too. If he or Barca asked for crazy money, that would rule us out.

He’s also stagnated at Barca, which might be training and environment or he may have hit his ceiling.

 

[bluetonium]

Offer to take him on loan for two years with no fee but a flimsy 'promise' to maybe buy him eventually. See how Barca like that.

 

[Phil1]

Laporte got a second chance. I’d be surprised if we went back, but it’s not totally out of the question. It’d be down to money too. If he or Barca asked for crazy money, that would rule us out.

He’s also stagnated at Barca, which might be training and environment or he may have hit his ceiling.

Well of course all that could happen as well but I’d be sitting in the fence if I gave both sides so I thought I’d just post what I think will happen, or in this case won’t. :-)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well of course all that could happen as well but I’d be sitting in the fence if I gave both sides so I thought I’d just post what I think will happen, or in this case won’t. :-)

I think Tkixi will buy players to tempt Pep to stay longer. He did it with Doku this summer. I wonder who the out of the box signing will be in the summer.

Might be a mad attacking right back!

 

[Phil1]

I think Tkixi will buy players to tempt Pep to stay longer. He did it with Doku this summer. I wonder who the out of the box signing will be in the summer.

Might be a mad attacking right back!

Messi :-)

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

I think Tkixi will buy players to tempt Pep to stay longer. He did it with Doku this summer. I wonder who the out of the box signing will be in the summer.

Might be a mad attacking right back!

A mad attacking LB, one who can tackle and close that side down. Other than that I think our business for summer has been agreed with an emphasis on Brazilian and Argentinian youth. Anything else will depend on the usual crap about Silva and Barca but I think our squad will be stronger even if only for this rebuilding and the younger players coming through.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Laporte got a second chance. I’d be surprised if we went back, but it’s not totally out of the question. It’d be down to money too. If he or Barca asked for crazy money, that would rule us out.

He’s also stagnated at Barca, which might be training and environment or he may have hit his ceiling.

Think this time there is a high possibility we will go for him, he has always said he wanted to play for Barca, well he has done that, he has turned down big offers from English clubs, his loyalty/devotion has been tested, but Barca want the money and his value is going down, it will come down to the figures, but this lad is a 1000x better than Kimmich in his ability to control games, so with KDB not getting any younger and his ability( which i believe he has) of playing with or without Rodri, i do think we will move for him

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Think this time there is a high possibility we will go for him, he has always said he wanted to play for Barca, well he has done that, he has turned down big offers from English clubs, his loyalty/devotion has been tested, but Barca want the money and his value is going down, it will come down to the figures, but this lad is a 1000x better than Kimmich in his ability to control games, so with KDB not getting any younger and his ability( which i believe he has) of playing with or without Rodri, i do think we will move for him

It’ll be about numbers though too. If he wants £400k+ a week, he won’t be coming. If Barca want £80m for him, he won’t be coming.

I’ve not watched enough of Barca over the past few years to see how he dictates games. He does seem like Gundogan, but with less goals.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

A mad attacking LB, one who can tackle and close that side down. Other than that I think our business for summer has been agreed with an emphasis on Brazilian and Argentinian youth. Anything else will depend on the usual crap about Silva and Barca but I think our squad will be stronger even if only for this rebuilding and the younger players coming through.

Davies and Frimpong would be decent additions in the summer.

As always though, it depends on who wants out.

 

[Phil1]

It’ll be about numbers though too. If he wants £400k+ a week, he won’t be coming. If Barca want £80m for him, he won’t be coming.

I’ve not watched enough of Barca over the past few years to see how he dictates games. He does seem like Gundogan, but with less goals.

Unless he’s willing to take a hefty pay cut to come here I just don’t see it, I think the money side of it will play a huge part in any decision we make.
I’m similar to you on the not seeing him much since he’s been at Barca so don’t want to go down the road of saying wherever or not he’s good enough atm.
I did like him a lot when we were originally linked tbf.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Unless he’s willing to take a hefty pay cut to come here I just don’t see it, I think the money side of it will play a huge part in any decision we make.
I’m similar to you on the not seeing him much since he’s been at Barca so don’t want to go down the road of saying wherever or not he’s good enough atm.
I did like him a lot when we were originally linked tbf.

Think we’re both pretty relaxed and are trusting in the club making the right decision either way. They’ve got plenty of form.

Does de Jong fancy playing Solihull Moor next season? ;-)

 

[salfordbluetrue]

It’ll be about numbers though too. If he wants £400k+ a week, he won’t be coming. If Barca want £80m for him, he won’t be coming.

I’ve not watched enough of Barca over the past few years to see how he dictates games. He does seem like Gundogan, but with less goals.

Gundogan was always more of an attacking player , De Jong is more of a central player, ie Kovacic but the gulf in class is huge.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Gundogan was always more of an attacking player , De Jong is more of a central player, ie Kovacic but the gulf in class is huge.

Not before he got to City he wasn’t. He moved into the false 9 and developed his attacking later in his career.

 

[vincent]

I always think it’s style of substance when I have watched him for club and country.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Not before he got to City he wasn’t. He moved into the false 9 and developed his attacking later in his career.

I suppose it is just what you remember, but when i watched Dortmund they pushed Mikhitaryan into the deeper role as Gundogan was a genius compared to him, before that it was just the Lewandowski Reus show

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I suppose it is just what you remember, but when i watched Dortmund they pushed Mikhitaryan into the deeper role as Gundogan was a genius compared to him, before that it was just the Lewandowski Reus show

Gundogan was a 1 in 10 scorer for Dortmund. Whether as a 6 or 8, he didn’t develop timing of runs into the box and scoring until we played without a striker.

 

[Tevez City]

Swap with Cancelo

 

[Mad 4 It]

De Jong, Kimich , Musiala, Alfonso, these are the types of players the best team in the world should be looking to sign :)