FSA survey on VAR

JASR

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Done.

said that VAR has to be seen to be clear and impartial. To do this, the ref has to be heard by the stadium and tv. And the VAR studio has to be seen and heard by the stadium and TV. Live and recordings freely available to any interested parties.
any stadium in the PL must have a video screen, even if it means reducing capaciy.
 

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said that VAR has to be seen to be clear and impartial. To do this, the ref has to be heard by the stadium and tv. And the VAR studio has to be seen and heard by the stadium and TV. Live and recordings freely available to any interested parties.
any stadium in the PL must have a video screen, even if it means reducing capaciy.
Var should never have been implemented if all stadiums didn't have a big screen as the original var rulings were that replays to be shown on big screens in all stadiums the fact that the rags and red scouse don't have one is disgraceful, have a read of the official VAR rules under communication..... As follows

Digital channels​

In stadiums with big screens, if the VAR has been involved in changing a decision from the on-field referee, they may broadcast definitive video clips to help explain what has happened.

Whenever have you seen this happen.???
 

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A full investigation by the police into the corruption regularly committed by the referees under the control of PiGMOL would be much more productive and useful.


If done properly, the outcome would mean the demise of the rags, so it could only happen in a TV fiction programme obviously.
 

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Survey: Fans say they will attend fewer games because of VAR

Posted on 2nd June 2021

The results of our fan consultation on VAR are in, and they make for interesting reading: more than four out of ten fans say they will attend fewer games in future due to the effect VAR is having on the game.

In what was the largest survey of its kind on VAR, the more than 33,000 supporters polled were almost unanimous in their opinion – 95% of those who had experienced VAR in-stadium and 94% who had watched matches on TV said that VAR had made watching football less enjoyable.

Chief among the concerns of fans was the removal of the spontaneous joy of goal celebrations (95%), and the impact of delays; 86% of TV viewers and 91% of match-goers stated that VAR decisions are generally not resolved in a reasonable amount of time.

Taking all things into consideration, only 26% of those polled said they supported the use of VAR.

More than a third of those respondents (39%) who had been Premier League season ticket holders before COVID-19 hit said they were likely to attend fewer games in future as a result of the impact that VAR was having on the game. 44% of all regular matchgoers said they would be attending less due to VAR.

The results of the survey will be provided to the Premier League who are undergoing a similar consultation of players and managers to make improvements to the technology from next season.

FSA vice-chair Tom Greatrex said: “There is a clear feeling among fans that VAR has ruined the spontaneity of goal celebrations, and taken away a big part of our most enjoyable matchday moments.

“With four in ten fans saying that VAR is likely to lead them to attend fewer matches in the future we hope that the Premier League and referees’ body PGMOL will hear the fans’ voice and take urgent steps to improve a system that isn’t delivering clear and understandable decisions in stadiums.”

Fans are not completely against all technology, however; 97% of respondents were in favour of goalline technology, which provides near-instant results.

Other key stats from the survey include:

Around half of those who responded had experienced VAR in-stadium (55%)
Just over three quarters of fans (77%) were of the opinion that referees needed to take the time to more clearly explain VAR decisions to those in the stadium
A similar proportion (78%) agreed that other sports are better suited to the use of video referees/umpires than football is.
Two thirds of fans (63%) are not in favour of using VAR in competitions where it won’t be used in every game, such as in the FA Cup or EFL Cup in lower league grounds.
Only 13% of fans believe that VAR has improved the overall accuracy of refereeing decisions
Just 4% of fans think VAR has had a positive impact on the team they support, 78% think it’s been more negative.

FSA National Council member and member of our VAR working group Steve Moulds said: “One of the main concerns raised by supporters is that VAR decisions are taking too long, and even then they aren’t always clearly communicated to those fans in the stadium when they are made.

“Despite being part of our game for several years, there is still great confusion over exactly how VAR operates, and that is having a detrimental impact on the enjoyment of match-going fans, as well as those watching on TV.

“We’d like to see much better communication and explanation from officials on VAR decisions, which will go some way to improving supporter confidence in the system.”

Who completed the survey?

A total of 33,243 fans responded to the survey, which ran online from 29th March to 12th April.The majority of fans (51%) were aged between 25 and 44; under 25s were represented by 13% of respondents while just 6% were over 65.33% of respondents identified as home season ticket holders, with 21% being regular away match attenders (6 or more away games in a normal pre-COVID season)A further 23% were regular home matchgoers; while 15% were non-matchgoers86% of respondents supported a Premier League club
 

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Results are in


Survey: Fans say they will attend fewer games because of VAR

Posted on 2nd June 2021

The results of our fan consultation on VAR are in, and they make for interesting reading: more than four out of ten fans say they will attend fewer games in future due to the effect VAR is having on the game.

In what was the largest survey of its kind on VAR, the more than 33,000 supporters polled were almost unanimous in their opinion – 95% of those who had experienced VAR in-stadium and 94% who had watched matches on TV said that VAR had made watching football less enjoyable.

Chief among the concerns of fans was the removal of the spontaneous joy of goal celebrations (95%), and the impact of delays; 86% of TV viewers and 91% of match-goers stated that VAR decisions are generally not resolved in a reasonable amount of time.

Taking all things into consideration, only 26% of those polled said they supported the use of VAR.

More than a third of those respondents (39%) who had been Premier League season ticket holders before COVID-19 hit said they were likely to attend fewer games in future as a result of the impact that VAR was having on the game. 44% of all regular matchgoers said they would be attending less due to VAR.

The results of the survey will be provided to the Premier League who are undergoing a similar consultation of players and managers to make improvements to the technology from next season.

FSA vice-chair Tom Greatrex said: “There is a clear feeling among fans that VAR has ruined the spontaneity of goal celebrations, and taken away a big part of our most enjoyable matchday moments.

“With four in ten fans saying that VAR is likely to lead them to attend fewer matches in the future we hope that the Premier League and referees’ body PGMOL will hear the fans’ voice and take urgent steps to improve a system that isn’t delivering clear and understandable decisions in stadiums.”

Fans are not completely against all technology, however; 97% of respondents were in favour of goalline technology, which provides near-instant results.

Other key stats from the survey include:

Around half of those who responded had experienced VAR in-stadium (55%)
Just over three quarters of fans (77%) were of the opinion that referees needed to take the time to more clearly explain VAR decisions to those in the stadium
A similar proportion (78%) agreed that other sports are better suited to the use of video referees/umpires than football is.
Two thirds of fans (63%) are not in favour of using VAR in competitions where it won’t be used in every game, such as in the FA Cup or EFL Cup in lower league grounds.
Only 13% of fans believe that VAR has improved the overall accuracy of refereeing decisions
Just 4% of fans think VAR has had a positive impact on the team they support, 78% think it’s been more negative.

FSA National Council member and member of our VAR working group Steve Moulds said: “One of the main concerns raised by supporters is that VAR decisions are taking too long, and even then they aren’t always clearly communicated to those fans in the stadium when they are made.

“Despite being part of our game for several years, there is still great confusion over exactly how VAR operates, and that is having a detrimental impact on the enjoyment of match-going fans, as well as those watching on TV.

“We’d like to see much better communication and explanation from officials on VAR decisions, which will go some way to improving supporter confidence in the system.”

Who completed the survey?

A total of 33,243 fans responded to the survey, which ran online from 29th March to 12th April.The majority of fans (51%) were aged between 25 and 44; under 25s were represented by 13% of respondents while just 6% were over 65.33% of respondents identified as home season ticket holders, with 21% being regular away match attenders (6 or more away games in a normal pre-COVID season)A further 23% were regular home matchgoers; while 15% were non-matchgoers86% of respondents supported a Premier League club
I was going to mention this and put it in the Media thread. One way or another the TV wallahs will save a major say in what happens no matter what a fans poll says.
I like the pic shown in the actual article with the scoreboard showing 'no handball by Arthur Arnold'. Decisions involving the Favoured Ones are a major cause of discontent . Perhaps the scoreboard should have shown he is out of the Euros as its not getting much coverage.
 

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Results are in


Survey: Fans say they will attend fewer games because of VAR

Posted on 2nd June 2021

The results of our fan consultation on VAR are in, and they make for interesting reading: more than four out of ten fans say they will attend fewer games in future due to the effect VAR is having on the game.

In what was the largest survey of its kind on VAR, the more than 33,000 supporters polled were almost unanimous in their opinion – 95% of those who had experienced VAR in-stadium and 94% who had watched matches on TV said that VAR had made watching football less enjoyable.

Chief among the concerns of fans was the removal of the spontaneous joy of goal celebrations (95%), and the impact of delays; 86% of TV viewers and 91% of match-goers stated that VAR decisions are generally not resolved in a reasonable amount of time.

Taking all things into consideration, only 26% of those polled said they supported the use of VAR.

More than a third of those respondents (39%) who had been Premier League season ticket holders before COVID-19 hit said they were likely to attend fewer games in future as a result of the impact that VAR was having on the game. 44% of all regular matchgoers said they would be attending less due to VAR.

The results of the survey will be provided to the Premier League who are undergoing a similar consultation of players and managers to make improvements to the technology from next season.

FSA vice-chair Tom Greatrex said: “There is a clear feeling among fans that VAR has ruined the spontaneity of goal celebrations, and taken away a big part of our most enjoyable matchday moments.

“With four in ten fans saying that VAR is likely to lead them to attend fewer matches in the future we hope that the Premier League and referees’ body PGMOL will hear the fans’ voice and take urgent steps to improve a system that isn’t delivering clear and understandable decisions in stadiums.”

Fans are not completely against all technology, however; 97% of respondents were in favour of goalline technology, which provides near-instant results.

Other key stats from the survey include:

Around half of those who responded had experienced VAR in-stadium (55%)
Just over three quarters of fans (77%) were of the opinion that referees needed to take the time to more clearly explain VAR decisions to those in the stadium
A similar proportion (78%) agreed that other sports are better suited to the use of video referees/umpires than football is.
Two thirds of fans (63%) are not in favour of using VAR in competitions where it won’t be used in every game, such as in the FA Cup or EFL Cup in lower league grounds.
Only 13% of fans believe that VAR has improved the overall accuracy of refereeing decisions
Just 4% of fans think VAR has had a positive impact on the team they support, 78% think it’s been more negative.

FSA National Council member and member of our VAR working group Steve Moulds said: “One of the main concerns raised by supporters is that VAR decisions are taking too long, and even then they aren’t always clearly communicated to those fans in the stadium when they are made.

“Despite being part of our game for several years, there is still great confusion over exactly how VAR operates, and that is having a detrimental impact on the enjoyment of match-going fans, as well as those watching on TV.

“We’d like to see much better communication and explanation from officials on VAR decisions, which will go some way to improving supporter confidence in the system.”

Who completed the survey?

A total of 33,243 fans responded to the survey, which ran online from 29th March to 12th April.The majority of fans (51%) were aged between 25 and 44; under 25s were represented by 13% of respondents while just 6% were over 65.33% of respondents identified as home season ticket holders, with 21% being regular away match attenders (6 or more away games in a normal pre-COVID season)A further 23% were regular home matchgoers; while 15% were non-matchgoers86% of respondents supported a Premier League club
Damning figures.

Badly conceived, implemented and operated.

It's almost like, I dunno.... the system is being used by idiots!!!
 

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While I agree that VAR should be used in football, it should only be used where the pitch-officials aren’t sure whether something is a penalty or not, or a red card or not. VAR should not be used for goal decisions because it has ruined what is special about the sport - the elation of the ball hitting the net for the fans. In the back of our minds, the threat of VAR is always hanging over a goal, and the enjoyment of football has become a fraction of what it used to be.
Money should instead be invested to make the pitch officials more adept at looking for offsides and fouls in build-ups to goals, not use VAR which ruins celebrating goals, the most special thing about football. If VAR remains on goals, this sport will be ruined forever.

VAR should be run by an independent panel unless they can grow some balls and realise that they don’t have to back up the pitch-officials. They need to realise they can disagree with them.

Pitch-officials and VAR should be mic’d up and should be used over the speaker systems in stadiums so everyone can hear what is being said. VAR should also be shown on the screens in the stadium so fans in the ground know what the hell is going on.

A representative from Pigmol should also have to come out with an interview each week and be held responsible for decisions that have been made.
Look under the communication part of var rules, replays are supposed to be shown on big screens in stadiums yet when have you seen this happen, refs using the monitors is also not that common either
 

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VAR is a fantastic idea in principle and can help eliminate the vast majority of mistakes or contentious decisions in matches,unfortunately it’s not being used correctly and this is the number one problem ,add that too the need for more transparency on refs being mic’d up for fans at the ground and on tv and the showing of and explaining of decisions by refs on screens at grounds and for tv..
 

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Look under the communication part of var rules, replays are supposed to be shown on big screens in stadiums yet when have you seen this happen, refs using the monitors is also not that common either

Rags and dippers do not have big screens due to " issues " with their layout apparently .

But this ia an " acceptable " deviation from the principles set out for the VAR implementation .
 

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