Gareth Southgate knighted

supercity88 said:
Potter is an overrated manager. You wouldn't like his style. We might keep the ball but we would do not with it. His Brighton team couldn't score for shit.
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Potter also tends to over-tinker, which contributed to any already problematic Chelsea. Competent enough manager, but he wouldn't be suitable for an international side.
 
Crooked_rain said:
Are there many English keepers any better with their feet?

I honestly have no idea but I'm assuming there must be someone better than that
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It's hard to tell because there aren't many English keepers playing regularly and they're often playing in teams that look to play longer. In Pickford's defence, he has played all season sending it up the pitch and when that's how you're told to play to get a goal it's hard to go against that natural instinct. That's on the manager really.

When you look at who you'd regard as the best keepers in the country, their passing is generally shorter. Ederson passed over 40 yards 18.3% of the time and the average length of his passing was 27.2 yards. Allison was 14.1% and 24.7 yards. Pickford was 56.7% and 41.6 yards! The only English keepers under 30 yards average pass distance were Pope and Steele.

Someone like Pep would pick the player best with the ball and be done with it. Our play would be better and no one would question it.

If there was a stat for number of saves after you've punted it straight to the opposition then Pickford would be world class.
 
kaz7 said:
There is only one manager who has won trophies for england in recent times , time for a woman to take charge

It is time
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Akira said:
Potter also tends to over-tinker, which contributed to any already problematic Chelsea. Competent enough manager, but he wouldn't be suitable for an international side.
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Surely that was a consequence of the politics of having a big squad at Chelsea.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Surely that was a consequence of the politics of having a big squad at Chelsea.
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But he's the manager. It's down to him to pick the best team to win games, if that means being ruthless and making certain players play less, that's how it has to be.

If a manager let's player politics override his willingness to do what he wants/needs to do, then he's not the man for a big job.
 
kaz7 said:
I really mean it , why not ? Time to try something new
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Whether it's right or not, I don't think the players would have enough respect for a manager who has managed a women's team, given the fact a top international women's teams can't beat an under 15s boys when they play against them.

That's not disregarding women's football or having a dig at it and it's not to say that someone who manages in women's football couldn't do well in the men's game. But you have to command the respect of a dressing room to succeed. I'm just not sure how much respect a woman who managed a woman's football team would get from a dressing room of League and Champions League winners from the men's game. That's just being realistic.
 
Crooked_rain said:
But he's the manager. It's down to him to pick the best team to win games, if that means being ruthless and making certain players play less, that's how it has to be.

If a manager let's player politics override his willingness to do what he wants/needs to do, then he's not the man for a big job.
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He was a manager who didn't pick the players the club bought or sold. If he didn't do as he was told or make an attempt at squad harmony he would have been sacked sooner.

It's now a case of generalising his experience at one club to how he would react in a very different job. I think it's a case of reading too much into it.
 
Crooked_rain said:
Whether it's right or not, I don't think the players would have enough respect for a manager who has managed a women's team, given the fact a top international women's teams can't beat an under 15s boys when they play against them.

That's not disregarding women's football or having a dig at it and it's not to say that someone who manages in women's football couldn't do well in the men's game. But you have to command the respect of a dressing room to succeed. I'm just not sure how much respect a woman who managed a woman's football team would get from a dressing room of League and Champions League winners from the men's game. That's just being realistic.
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Do they want to be cosseted by the fa man or challenged to try something different , if their ego couldnt take it then dont show up to play for england , too much massaging of egos is getting us nowhere
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Because she has no experience of managing in men's football. Southgate was crap at tactics, a manager who has never managed in the men's game isn't likely to be an improvement.
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She can obviously put some tactics together and motivate players , how many more times are england going to under perform before we try something else
 
kaz7 said:
Do they want to be cosseted by the fa man or challenged to try something different , if their ego couldnt take it then dont show up to play for england , too much massaging of egos is getting us nowhere
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Realistically they're not going to bring in a manager who managed in football at the equivalent (actually lesser) standard of a 15 year old boy's academy team, no matter if the women's game itself is bigger in profile than the 15 years game.
 
Crooked_rain said:
Realistically they're not going to bring in a manager who managed in football at the equivalent standard of a 15 year old boy's academy team, no matter if the women's game itself is bigger in profile than the 15 years game.
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Maybe they are afraid she might win us a trophy , make them look like fools going through every man in the country
 
kaz7 said:
She can obviously put some tactics together and motivate players , how many more times are england going to under perform before we try something else
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In the women's game. Men's teams and women's teams don't play the same tactics.

England over performed in reaching the last two finals Kaz.
 
kaz7 said:
Maybe they are afraid she might win us a trophy , make them look like fools going through every man in the country
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Or because she managed a team that the City under 15's would beat in a serious game. She simply wouldn't command the respect. I agree partly because she is a woman and women are not going to get the respect in the men's game from players, but a lot of it is because the standard she has managed at is not comparable.

Southgate wasn't even cut out for the job and he managed in the Premier League for 3 seasons before getting relegated
 
no serving female manager would take the job, for the reasons outlined above by various contributors
 
Crooked_rain said:
Or because she managed a team that the City under 15's would beat in a serious game. She simply wouldn't command the respect. I agree partly because she is a woman and women are not going to get the respect in the men's game from players, but a lot of it is because the standard she has managed at is not comparable.

Southgate wasn't even cut out for the job and he managed in the Premier League for 3 seasons before getting relegated
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The Dallas fc u14 academy team beating the world champion US women’s national team 4.0 proves its almost a totally different sport
 
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