Gareth Taylor sacked

[Theswampmonster]

You need some Van Helping with your puns

Better Cushing than Lee. He hates crosses….

 

[Mr HJ]

Cushing is free. After leaving City women in February 2020 to join the NYCFC men's team as assistant manager (precipitating Taylor's appointment), he had two years in full charge in New York but lost his job when the last MSL season ended in November. The BBC's Emma Sanders claimed that he'd been enjoying taking a few months out to be with his family and wouldn't have returned at this stage to a job other than at City owing to his affection for the club.

Looks as though the media has been briefed that Cushing isn't a candidate for the job on a permanent basis and Sanders stated his main ambitions currently lie in the men's game in any case. I hope we go for someone with a proven top-class record in the women's game, anyway. If playing a possession style is a prerequisite, then find someone who embraces that kind of game, but also hopefully who's aware that it doesn't necessarily have to entail constant passing backwards and sideways for the sake of it.

As for the timing, I can only assume that O'Neill and Sjögran think that Taylor had lost the dressing room, which is certainly how things appear to me from outside. If so, even if injured players return, the chances of winning a cup and finishing in the top three with him at the helm would have been fairly minimal, so why not roll the dice and see if someone who had a superior record to Taylor's in the same job can improve the atmosphere and thus performances.

I Agree - I think the biggest thing Cushing gives in the short term is he is an excellent communicator. Players understand being left out if the bigger plan is explained - no-one likes to be not picked but if you have a happy environment and a winning culture that makes it more acceptable. Taylor clearly had a set way he wanted to play, with a set group of players. He failed to get the best out of the assets he had to choose from. I look closely at how our best have played in the last few games - Yui, Jill, Laia for example have all not been as good as we all know they can be. He didn't even give a chance to one of the most exciting young Japanese players - that was his way.

Ultimately we need to change the slow, risk adverse pass back mentality that Taylor installed in them - to have a free kick or throw in 30 yards from the opposition goal and within 2 actions have the ball back with our keeper is not the way to play when you have the quality forward players we have. You could see Viv trying to change that mentality during a game but it was drilled into them so much - I love possession football but there has to be a clear plan - tons of possession and a lack of goals is not great when you know we are a mistake away from conceding.

Cushing will brighten the mood and I think both Charlotte and Theresa know that is vital to give us any chance of splitting the 4 games with Chelsea - the way we have played in the last month tells me we would have struggled to win any of the next 4 games - so it is brave to do it now but I for one think it was the correct call.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

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What we need is some stability, and a fresh pair of eyes. Just the last match, so many lessons to take from it. The first half was awful, literally every player looked shocking. But when someone takes some initiative, two passes Alexandria>Fowler>Bunny we have a goal in seconds. It looked so easy, and they are more than capable, they just need to get into the right mind-set. Their first thought shouldn't always be to pass it back. How many times did Roord get the ball the other day and immediately ping it backwards? Like she forgets where the opposition's goal is.

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That's how we used to play. I had to rub my eyes having felt them slowly closing during the first half. We don't particularly need 'direct' football, which I take to be a wallop over the top, but clinical, quick, FORWARD movement with a desperate desire to get the ball into the oppo penalty area, and then not to think a shot isn't on! I hope the new coach immediately puts a ban on a sideways, backward, possessnion at all costs game plan.

 

[supercity88]

Entirely probably that Kelly did fall out with Taylor, but I'm pretty sure she mentioned how disappointed she was, especially as it was another woman.

Probably more to the story.

As for hating Kelly, I don't. She seems pleasant enough. Didn't like the way she tries to force her way out of the club and I'm sure any ill feeling towards her by blues is because of that, not her name, accent etc.

You are right on Kelly. What she said was a bit of a joke to be honest. She had a contract and how many other men and women are sat on the bench, getting paid, but not playing as much as they want to. You either knuckle down and get your place back or you can look for an opportunity elsewhere but no one owes you anything. The fact you scored the winner for England and have played well previously doesn't mean your current employer owe you something more than wages and should keep playing you or sell you.

 

[cleavers]

I think that's unfair. We have the third biggest budget in the league. If we were to win it that would be a great achievement.

Especially with chelsea in the mix.

 

[HelloCity]

Wonder what it is about Chloe Kelly that the keyboard warriors find so objectionable?

Blonde?
London Accent?
Irish surname?
Social media presence?
Sponsorships?

Has anyone else ever noticed any other MCWFC player being so mercilessly slagged off in the history of this forum?

Armchair experts desperate to tell us over and over again (in case we forget, or ever deign to have our own opinions) how "literally shit" she is, despite her getting the sum total of sod all playing time to judge her on.

One of the last matches I can remember her playing 90 was when Paris FC visited, and she got a goal, an assist, and a saved shot. When the club played the highlights of the match on the screen before the next WSL game it was effectively a Chloe Kelly highlights video. Following game: back on the bench.

Whilst others have been "Garethed" and left quietly, eventually some-one was going to snap. Watching her playing time evaporate, and her chance at making the Euros with it, she'd plainly had enough.

I say good luck to her, great to see her back on the pitch and being treated with respect by another teaml. And what a goal that was that she scored last week! But, but, but, Gareth (and the bores on here) told us she was shit?!

Sorry to go O/T, just so tired of the one-sided discussion of Kelly on here, and it's being completely at odds with the fans IRL at the ground for whom she was a favourite and a great draw for the club.

Farewell Gareth.
Good luck with your inter-personal skills at the next club.
Maybe they'll let you sit up in the stands like a wally, too.

Some interesting posts from this account. Definitely not a City fan…

 

[mexico1970]

Wonder what it is about Chloe Kelly that the keyboard warriors find so objectionable?

Blonde?
London Accent?
Irish surname?
Social media presence?
Sponsorships?

Has anyone else ever noticed any other MCWFC player being so mercilessly slagged off in the history of this forum?

Armchair experts desperate to tell us over and over again (in case we forget, or ever deign to have our own opinions) how "literally shit" she is, despite her getting the sum total of sod all playing time to judge her on.

One of the last matches I can remember her playing 90 was when Paris FC visited, and she got a goal, an assist, and a saved shot. When the club played the highlights of the match on the screen before the next WSL game it was effectively a Chloe Kelly highlights video. Following game: back on the bench.

Whilst others have been "Garethed" and left quietly, eventually some-one was going to snap. Watching her playing time evaporate, and her chance at making the Euros with it, she'd plainly had enough.

I say good luck to her, great to see her back on the pitch and being treated with respect by another teaml. And what a goal that was that she scored last week! But, but, but, Gareth (and the bores on here) told us she was shit?!

Sorry to go O/T, just so tired of the one-sided discussion of Kelly on here, and it's being completely at odds with the fans IRL at the ground for whom she was a favourite and a great draw for the club.

Farewell Gareth.
Good luck with your inter-personal skills at the next club.
Maybe they'll let you sit up in the stands like a wally, too.

Is that you Chloe ?

 

[freshie]

Wonder what it is about Chloe Kelly that the keyboard warriors find so objectionable?

Blonde?
London Accent?
Irish surname?
Social media presence?
Sponsorships?

Has anyone else ever noticed any other MCWFC player being so mercilessly slagged off in the history of this forum?

Armchair experts desperate to tell us over and over again (in case we forget, or ever deign to have our own opinions) how "literally shit" she is, despite her getting the sum total of sod all playing time to judge her on.

One of the last matches I can remember her playing 90 was when Paris FC visited, and she got a goal, an assist, and a saved shot. When the club played the highlights of the match on the screen before the next WSL game it was effectively a Chloe Kelly highlights video. Following game: back on the bench.

Whilst others have been "Garethed" and left quietly, eventually some-one was going to snap. Watching her playing time evaporate, and her chance at making the Euros with it, she'd plainly had enough.

I say good luck to her, great to see her back on the pitch and being treated with respect by another teaml. And what a goal that was that she scored last week! But, but, but, Gareth (and the bores on here) told us she was shit?!

Sorry to go O/T, just so tired of the one-sided discussion of Kelly on here, and it's being completely at odds with the fans IRL at the ground for whom she was a favourite and a great draw for the club.

Farewell Gareth.
Good luck with your inter-personal skills at the next club.
Maybe they'll let you sit up in the stands like a wally, too.

What is it about Chloe Kelly that makes you so attached to her? A player with only 75 appearances for us and an FA and League cup to her name. She clearly didn’t want to be here and we have a much better replacement in Fujino

 

[Hilarious User Name]

Hi Chloe,

I know you're busy with sponsorship deals and social media, so I'll make it quick.

You stopped being a team player, choosing glory over simple passes to your team mate who had empty nets to tap in, while you missed a lot of chances even though you scored some. Oh and stopped tracking back. Nobody knows why.

Your replacement, Miss Fujino, knows when to shoot, when to pass and when to track back. She's been a much better balance to the team with her work ethic and I'm even one who questioned her arrival in the beginning.

Now I don't.

Good luck with whatever happens to your career, Clo.

Bye-ee.

Aoba? Is that you?

Is that you Chloe ?

Gareth? Is that you?

See, if a joke is funny, it's worth repeating.

Only Chloe Kelly could stick up for Chloe Kelly, is the idea?

How peculiar.

I wish I could run the length of the pitch without getting out of breath. Or was being paid her salary. Wouldn't be having to work night shift either.

What is it about Chloe Kelly that makes you so attached to her? A player with only 75 appearances for us and an FA and League cup to her name. She clearly didn’t want to be here and we have a much better replacement in Fujino

It's not particularly Chloe Kelly, I'd be sticking up for whichever time-served player was being misrepresented they way she is on here.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and perceive things slightly differently. I just don't think the level of criticism is fair. IMHO she hasn't been given enough chances to observe how "literally shit" she is. I will call out when she is poor, such as when she was put on at the end of the match at Stamford Bridge. She looked all over the place, but who knows where here head was at by that point.

To be fair to you, I'm of a similar mindset about the play.

I, for the life of me, don't know why Roord is in the team when she can't be arsed/ out of form. She's a crucial part of the set up, so her form leaves a big hole and it's like we're playing with 10 in the team.

Again, I would never come on here and repeatedly say someone was shit, but will say when I think someone is playing poorly. I have seen enough of Roord now to realise that she isn't the same player since coming back from injury, and I think she could do with being used more sparingly and subbed off sooner when she's having a poor match.

Same with Fujino, I was deeply unhappy with her at the start, but she has really come into her own. Again, my opinion only, but going back to the Stamford Bridge match, I think she was our best player that day running herself ragged all over the pitch.

That's how we used to play. I had to rub my eyes having felt them slowly closing during the first half. We don't particularly need 'direct' football, which I take to be a wallop over the top, but clinical, quick, FORWARD movement with a desperate desire to get the ball into the oppo penalty area, and then not to think a shot isn't on! I hope the new coach immediately puts a ban on a sideways, backward, possessnion at all costs game plan.

Back on topic, but this sacking is exciting because (and I expect this is the management's thinking) things can't possibly get worse. Hopefully an uptick in morale, and a bit of fire in their bellies can get some wins out of this run and maybe rescue next years Champions League. Cushing is a safe pair of hands, that the previous version of the team highly respected, and they are more than capable of playing well, I think its all mental. As you say, the matches you remember, that get your bum off the seat are when we have wave after wave of attack, not endless passing from midfield to backline to goalie under pressure. Mix things up, confuse the opposition. Most now expect cities play to be slow and toothless, and plan their response around it. Catch them off guard!

Some interesting posts from this account. Definitely not a City fan…

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Ha, Inspector Clouseau on the case.

Interesting posts is it? Imagine rooting around in the bins behind the forum and that's the best you could find.

Yes, you can be a blue and be new to the forum.
Yes, you can be a blue and not feel that spending your entire time online is a good use of your day.
Yes, you can be a blue and be critical of the atmosphere at the ground.
Yes, you can be a blue and find the away fan's singing funny. I must have missed the compulsory sense of humour removal operation when allocated my seat. They didn't invent it, but "Is this a library?" is just funny, isn't it? Better than "Where's your famous atmosphere" IMO.

I also find it embarrassing that they are able to sing that at us. I wish to god I wasn't one of the circa only 10 people in my stand trying to chant/sing.

There is a weird sort of symbiotic relationship between the crowd/atmosphere and the players. The better they play, the more excited the crowd are, the louder they are, the players feed of that. I wonder how much of the dead stadium stuff at present is down to the disappointing football. Chicken/egg situation. The players/manager can't possibly have been happy with how "present" the crowd were on Sunday.

The OSC try their best in their corner with the drum, but the rest of the stadium don't join in. They just sit there in silence, and it is very frustrating.

As the men's fans have managed, we should try to fight to shake off the stigma of a silent "emptihad" ground.

I don't know how we fix it, but something needs doing. I don't know if there needs to be more effort to try something other than the "9 claps - city - city - city - city" thing? Not sure a lot of the player based songs are successful either, with no-one outside the OSC seemingly knowing the words.

And re the Etihad, as I said the turn out for the Villa cup match was very poor, put that few people in the Etihad it would look and feel even worse. What's worse is, it would end up with way more United fans in. I was on the halfway line at the last derby, and when Toone kept scoring (first goals in 6 months, FFS) the cheers went up around me from all directions. Something needs doing about how they sell these tickets. It can't be hard to have one side city one side United, surely? Just sell two types of ticket on the site. Same applies to the women's FA Cup, why do they insist on selling final tickets all year before anyone knows who's in it. They wouldn't do that for the men's final so why do it for the women?

 

[HelloCity]

Aoba? Is that you?



Gareth? Is that you?

See, if a joke is funny, it's worth repeating.

Only Chloe Kelly could stick up for Chloe Kelly, is the idea?

How peculiar.

I wish I could run the length of the pitch without getting out of breath. Or was being paid her salary. Wouldn't be having to work night shift either.



It's not particularly Chloe Kelly, I'd be sticking up for whichever time-served player was being misrepresented they way she is on here.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and perceive things slightly differently. I just don't think the level of criticism is fair. IMHO she hasn't been given enough chances to observe how "literally shit" she is. I will call out when she is poor, such as when she was put on at the end of the match at Stamford Bridge. She looked all over the place, but who knows where here head was at by that point.



Again, I would never come on here and repeatedly say someone was shit, but will say when I think someone is playing poorly. I have seen enough of Roord now to realise that she isn't the same player since coming back from injury, and I think she could do with being used more sparingly and subbed off sooner when she's having a poor match.

Same with Fujino, I was deeply unhappy with her at the start, but she has really come into her own. Again, my opinion only, but going back to the Stamford Bridge match, I think she was our best player that day running herself ragged all over the pitch.



Back on topic, but this sacking is exciting because (and I expect this is the management's thinking) things can't possibly get worse. Hopefully an uptick in morale, and a bit of fire in their bellies can get some wins out of this run and maybe rescue next years Champions League. Cushing is a safe pair of hands, that the previous version of the team highly respected, and they are more than capable of playing well, I think its all mental. As you say, the matches you remember, that get your bum off the seat are when we have wave after wave of attack, not endless passing from midfield to backline to goalie under pressure. Mix things up, confuse the opposition. Most now expect cities play to be slow and toothless, and plan their response around it. Catch them off guard!



Ha, Inspector Clouseau on the case.

Interesting posts is it? Imagine rooting around in the bins behind the forum and that's the best you could find.

Yes, you can be a blue and be new to the forum.
Yes, you can be a blue and not feel that spending your entire time online is a good use of your day.
Yes, you can be a blue and be critical of the atmosphere at the ground.
Yes, you can be a blue and find the away fan's singing funny. I must have missed the compulsory sense of humour removal operation when allocated my seat. They didn't invent it, but "Is this a library?" is just funny, isn't it? Better than "Where's your famous atmosphere" IMO.

I also find it embarrassing that they are able to sing that at us. I wish to god I wasn't one of the circa only 10 people in my stand trying to chant/sing.

There is a weird sort of symbiotic relationship between the crowd/atmosphere and the players. The better they play, the more excited the crowd are, the louder they are, the players feed of that. I wonder how much of the dead stadium stuff at present is down to the disappointing football. Chicken/egg situation. The players/manager can't possibly have been happy with how "present" the crowd were on Sunday.

The OSC try their best in their corner with the drum, but the rest of the stadium don't join in. They just sit there in silence, and it is very frustrating.

As the men's fans have managed, we should try to fight to shake off the stigma of a silent "emptihad" ground.

I don't know how we fix it, but something needs doing. I don't know if there needs to be more effort to try something other than the "9 claps - city - city - city - city" thing? Not sure a lot of the player based songs are successful either, with no-one outside the OSC seemingly knowing the words.

And re the Etihad, as I said the turn out for the Villa cup match was very poor, put that few people in the Etihad it would look and feel even worse. What's worse is, it would end up with way more United fans in. I was on the halfway line at the last derby, and when Toone kept scoring (first goals in 6 months, FFS) the cheers went up around me from all directions. Something needs doing about how they sell these tickets. It can't be hard to have one side city one side United, surely? Just sell two types of ticket on the site. Same applies to the women's FA Cup, why do they insist on selling final tickets all year before anyone knows who's in it. They wouldn't do that for the men's final so why do it for the women?

Rag.