never seen dam like that but obviously tolm has given the info to be put in to the forum!! he has said as with all transfers that its not set in stone that we will get wes but we are right in the mix and are at the table for him.he also said that the intial newspaper report in italy has still got the backing of italian itks.dref619 said:allan harper said:richards30 said:yeah i know mate!! lol i just think that with damocles info over the weekend which tolm has let him post,plus danamy has back it up yesterday and fbloke has been tweeting that we are right there and all have said not to believe bobby when he says we havent bid etc.....maybe the backlash from mancini mentioning nasri has taught him to keep quiet on on transfers and play the fool as such??
What did Damocles say mate ?
its on page 45 i think mate. was exactly the pick up i needed after a fucking dire performance yesterday
dref619 said:allan harper said:richards30 said:yeah i know mate!! lol i just think that with damocles info over the weekend which tolm has let him post,plus danamy has back it up yesterday and fbloke has been tweeting that we are right there and all have said not to believe bobby when he says we havent bid etc.....maybe the backlash from mancini mentioning nasri has taught him to keep quiet on on transfers and play the fool as such??
What did Damocles say mate ?
its on page 45 i think mate. was exactly the pick up i needed after a fucking dire performance yesterday
allan harper said:dref619 said:allan harper said:What did Damocles say mate ?
its on page 45 i think mate. was exactly the pick up i needed after a fucking dire performance yesterday
I'm using Tapatalk gonna have to do a few calculations to work out page 45, cheers.
on the other hand hes not 'Arry and wouldn't come out and openly say we are going to sign himSoulboy said:It's a tough one to call.. who to believe?
The Italian press and our estememed ITKs... or Mancini stating unequivocally that we're not interested in him!
Like I say, tough call. But I'm going with the manager's view on this one if you don't mind...
<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:54 am --<br /><br />Damocles said:Robinho's Subbuteo said:Damocles said:Let's try and keep it civil please
So Damocles, based on what you know/have been told/believe ... are you :
a) moderately excited
b) VERY excited
c) HOLY SHITCAKES!!!
a) Moderately excited.
Info is info, and is open to interpretation/exaggeration/just plain Chinese whispers. On it's own, I'd never bother posting info because it can be taken hundreds of different ways. I my entire time here, I've posted 3 pieces. The first one was that we were interested in Ibra, which was later proved correct (this was very early, when Robbie was still here); the second was that we weren't interested in Nasri on the day that SSN broke the news that we had signed him (I still believe that SSN's backpeddling justified this) and this is the third. I regularly used to speak to Tolm and FBloke on PMs and exchange good info with them on things because it was always on a "good faith" basis, but they've gone now and I have nobody left to exchange stuff with who I trust explicitly and vice versa.
My point is, I don't usually post stuff on the main boards because I don't want to be seen as somebody who does post stuff on the boards. This is an exceptional case though.
The thing that makes this an exceptional case is that the stars have aligned between something that I heard earlier in the week, then something that I heard today that happened after I heard what I heard, then the story in Gazzetta. This created a simple timeline of events that all point towards a positive outcome.
The Gazzetta story is the key to everything here. People dismissing it out of hand are not thinking correctly. Firstly, I'll absolutely be nailed on and say that we are interested in Sneijder, it isn't a made up interest. Tolm said as much weeks ago and if it wasn't for a few shortsighted people, we'd all know a lot more now than we currently do which is pretty annoying. Compared to that guy, we're all blind men shooting in the dark and I do wish that we could convince him to come back as he is missed.
The story is important because (I think I've mentioned on more than a few occasions that I heavily follow Italian football and am learning the language) in Italy, these people care about their reputation and they are seen worldwide as a respected paper. They would not print this as some sort of game for United (and saying "done deal" is a pretty shitty way to negotiate a transfer to someone else), they would not print this because they're pissed at Moratti. If they've printed this, it's because they KNOW something is afoot.
I'm only moderately excited because it takes a highly arrogant individual to not question themselves when presented with the world and his wife saying no deal. I was extremely excited when I first read the Gazzetta piece and the constant denials have wore me down. Now I'm doubting and as confused as everybody else.
That said, the interest is definitely there. The negotiations seemingly happened between the clubs. The final piece was the sign off which Gazzetta said happened. So, that's about it really. You can all draw your own conclusions as that's pretty much as specific as I can get, and I'm still probably going to get shitlisted for that
Damocles said:Some new info from the most trusted of sources:
City have been forced to distance themselves from this transfer until they can speak to Tevez on Monday and receive certain guarantees about his desire to leave; that he won't just reject a move to a club outright because they won't pay him a billion a week or whatever. This is separate from the Sneijder deal, I imagine that it is related to having two guys on large wages.
However, the Sneijder deal is very real and money has already been discussed.
The Gazzetta leak was purposeful from the Inter side, and was done to grease the wheels with the fans and not to smoke out any other competition.
Sneijder is very much open to coming to us, in fact he is very much open to go to anybody who will meet his wage demands.
It is worth been optimistic about a deal for him, and we will know more in the next few days. Branca's moving the goalposts in his last two statements should show how real the deal is.
We believe that we will get Nasri AS WELL AS Sneijder, it is not currently an either-or situation.
In a tribute to Tolmie, here's the video for the day:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0[/youtube]
-- Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:16 pm --
Hulkster said:Gazetta had pulled the story when I checked last night.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/06-08-2011/bye-bye-sneijder-va-city-802339110852.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/06 ... 0852.shtml</a>
Still there. You really are quite transparent.
richards30 said:yeah i know mate!! lol i just think that with damocles info over the weekend which tolm has let him post,plus danamy has back it up yesterday and fbloke has been tweeting that we are right there and all have said not to believe bobby when he says we havent bid etc.....maybe the backlash from mancini mentioning nasri has taught him to keep quiet on on transfers and play the fool as such??Robinho's Subbuteo said:richards30 said:how do you know sneijder is not happening then mate?
You know richards30, you are the eternal optimist and I, for one, am right with you.
richards30 said:never seen dam like that but obviously tolm has given the info to be put in to the forum!! he has said as with all transfers that its not set in stone that we will get wes but we are right in the mix and are at the table for him.he also said that the intial newspaper report in italy has still got the backing of italian itks.dref619 said:allan harper said:What did Damocles say mate ?
its on page 45 i think mate. was exactly the pick up i needed after a fucking dire performance yesterday
cheers for that mate!! like i said never seen dam so insistent on something and even all day yesterday when certain comments tried to shut the chances off dam kept telling everyone to ignore them!!dref619 said:Damocles said:Robinho's Subbuteo said:So Damocles, based on what you know/have been told/believe ... are you :
a) moderately excited
b) VERY excited
c) HOLY SHITCAKES!!!
a) Moderately excited.
Info is info, and is open to interpretation/exaggeration/just plain Chinese whispers. On it's own, I'd never bother posting info because it can be taken hundreds of different ways. I my entire time here, I've posted 3 pieces. The first one was that we were interested in Ibra, which was later proved correct (this was very early, when Robbie was still here); the second was that we weren't interested in Nasri on the day that SSN broke the news that we had signed him (I still believe that SSN's backpeddling justified this) and this is the third. I regularly used to speak to Tolm and FBloke on PMs and exchange good info with them on things because it was always on a "good faith" basis, but they've gone now and I have nobody left to exchange stuff with who I trust explicitly and vice versa.
My point is, I don't usually post stuff on the main boards because I don't want to be seen as somebody who does post stuff on the boards. This is an exceptional case though.
The thing that makes this an exceptional case is that the stars have aligned between something that I heard earlier in the week, then something that I heard today that happened after I heard what I heard, then the story in Gazzetta. This created a simple timeline of events that all point towards a positive outcome.
The Gazzetta story is the key to everything here. People dismissing it out of hand are not thinking correctly. Firstly, I'll absolutely be nailed on and say that we are interested in Sneijder, it isn't a made up interest. Tolm said as much weeks ago and if it wasn't for a few shortsighted people, we'd all know a lot more now than we currently do which is pretty annoying. Compared to that guy, we're all blind men shooting in the dark and I do wish that we could convince him to come back as he is missed.
The story is important because (I think I've mentioned on more than a few occasions that I heavily follow Italian football and am learning the language) in Italy, these people care about their reputation and they are seen worldwide as a respected paper. They would not print this as some sort of game for United (and saying "done deal" is a pretty shitty way to negotiate a transfer to someone else), they would not print this because they're pissed at Moratti. If they've printed this, it's because they KNOW something is afoot.
I'm only moderately excited because it takes a highly arrogant individual to not question themselves when presented with the world and his wife saying no deal. I was extremely excited when I first read the Gazzetta piece and the constant denials have wore me down. Now I'm doubting and as confused as everybody else.
That said, the interest is definitely there. The negotiations seemingly happened between the clubs. The final piece was the sign off which Gazzetta said happened. So, that's about it really. You can all draw your own conclusions as that's pretty much as specific as I can get, and I'm still probably going to get shitlisted for that
-- Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:54 am --
Damocles said:Some new info from the most trusted of sources:
City have been forced to distance themselves from this transfer until they can speak to Tevez on Monday and receive certain guarantees about his desire to leave; that he won't just reject a move to a club outright because they won't pay him a billion a week or whatever. This is separate from the Sneijder deal, I imagine that it is related to having two guys on large wages.
However, the Sneijder deal is very real and money has already been discussed.
The Gazzetta leak was purposeful from the Inter side, and was done to grease the wheels with the fans and not to smoke out any other competition.
Sneijder is very much open to coming to us, in fact he is very much open to go to anybody who will meet his wage demands.
It is worth been optimistic about a deal for him, and we will know more in the next few days. Branca's moving the goalposts in his last two statements should show how real the deal is.
We believe that we will get Nasri AS WELL AS Sneijder, it is not currently an either-or situation.
In a tribute to Tolmie, here's the video for the day:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0[/youtube]
-- Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:16 pm --
Hulkster said:Gazetta had pulled the story when I checked last night.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/06-08-2011/bye-bye-sneijder-va-city-802339110852.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/06 ... 0852.shtml</a>
Still there. You really are quite transparent.
thats his other gem