General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Ban-jani]

Boris' interview will Andrew Neil would have been similar but now the precedent has been set and future elections won't have politicians submitting themselves to questioning.

Not facing Neil was cowardly but he did face questioning.

 

[Bluemanc100]

You've got a Woolworths?

Of course not, It was more a comment that I never expected Labour to lose the seat, when I went to bed it was potentially Tory but Labour got it over the line

The only tiny patch of red in North Wales

 

[Bluemanc100]

I’m pleased Laura Piddick has lost her seat, she’s a smug twat who thought she was safe in Corbyns hard left bubble. Good riddance to her, pity Angela Raynor didn’t suffer the same fate.

If you mean Pidcock that's a surprise, I had her down as a potential replacement leader...

 

[M18CTID]

And all of that is presuming Scotland is entitled to 100% of it considering the cost the UK government has put in to extracting it so far.

Yep - there's that as well

 

[Saddleworth2]

If Scotland leaves the UK and comes to rely upon oil then seriously they are in for a whole world of pain. Oil is one of the most volatile and politically sensitive commodities there is.

If you understand the oil industry then you'll understand that sitting on any number of oil reserves is pointless. Oil has to be taken from the ground, refined and then sold as a final product. All of that comes at a cost.

The amount of oil under Scottish waters is therefore irrelevant, all that matters is whether those oil reserves are feasible and profitable which is driven by the cost it takes to get it of the ground against the oil price of the day.

The Saudi oil companies etc are major producers, Scotland is not. They could put Scotland out of business overnight because they can absorb low oil prices. We saw this immediately after the Scottish referendum when Saudi oil tankers were circling in the gulf because of high supply.

It would be utter stupidity to leave the UK.

Its utterly stupid to vote in a dishonest man-child as Prime Minister but it seems these things happen. I'm afraid things are going to get extremely messy between the two governments.

 

[robbieh]

You are obviously hard left and will probably never see the Government you cherish, the majority of people have voted many times not to elect an ultra socialist leadership. The left wing needs to be softened for the Labour Party to be elected again, even that won’t meet your expectations.

After 19 years of Tory rule I was happyish when Blair won, I dare say if Johnson is dethroned in 5 years by someone similar I'll take it.

But things are broken in the capitalist system and it seems incapable of dealing with the environment, as well as the loss of jobs due to technological change.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

My first election was 1979 and I have waited since then for a government that reflects my views. I wait on. 2017 gave me hope but as lots of posters have stated here Labour's Brexit position was untenable. They also said Corbyn was a problem.

The question now is what Johnson does with his majority. He owes his victory to the working class vote, will he improve their lives?

Improving the lives of the lower classes is a tentative thing for the Tory’s to do. Their core voters don’t want that. They want to keep a foot on the necks of the lower classes so that they can prosper while the lower classes remain on the ground. Giving the lower classes more prosperous lives will upset a lot of rich and powerful people.

But I’ve said a few pages back that if this Tory govt get it right they could keep out Labour indefinitely until a new centre left party emerge. They could keep the working class vote if they do things right for them.

So what do the Tory’s do?

Is this a “New Conservatives”? Or the same old same old who’ve just strung along millions, using them for a short term win?

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Sorry to see Dennis skinner go.

 

[Bluemanc100]

After 19 years of Tory rule I was happyish when Blair won, I dare say if Johnson is dethroned in 5 years by someone similar I'll take it.

But things are broken in the capitalist system and it seems incapable of dealing with the environment, as well as the loss of jobs due to technological change.

This is an issue that's always going to be really hard to mitigate for, whoever is in charge. You can't stand in the way of progress but the flip side is that those advances in technology remove the manual effort we needed historically... A tough one for all of us

 

[argyle]

Not facing Neil was cowardly but he did face questioning.

...from subservient journalists.

When he was properly questioned he hid in a fridge.

Like I said, avoiding scrutiny will now be the norm along with campaigning as far right nationalists.