General Election June 8th

[worsleyweb]

Wonder what odds you would get on Fumble voting Tory next week on the back of us being able to make him see sense through this thread? I can sense he is weakening.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

So you don't think that raising minimum wage to £10 an hour is going to cause business to close? And don't you agree that if people have more money in their pocket, the price of goods will increase because it's now costing more to produce goods and services due to higher costs, wages, tax etc and because of that people will be no better off and some probably worse as companies lay off staff to cope with the wage increase.

This could have been written in 1999 when the minimum wage was brought in. The world didn't fall in, as far as I can remember, although almost every conservative MP voted against it.

 

[SWP's back]

What a disgraceful post that is. You've just condemned about 4M people as believing the world owes them a living, they're all after freebies, and they've all had a catastrophic education. It might be true of your kids and young people you know, but it certainly isn't of mine, or the vast majority of people they're mates with. They worked hard to get A levels and first class degrees and now they're working. Difference with when you had your education, of course, is that they owe almost £100k between the two of them for the privilege. (Christ knows how much it would have been had I not stumped up for rent and some other expenses).

Weird. I paid for my own rent and expenses at uni by working. But I suppose I didn't think the world owes me a living.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Weird. I paid for my own rent and expenses at uni by working. But I suppose I didn't think the world owes me a living.

Did you get a grant and have your fees paid by the government?

 

[SWP's back]

What, all 18-24 year olds are scrounging, good for nothings? Your world must be a fucking sad, lonely place.

Don't think he said that.

 

[SWP's back]

Did you get a grant and have your fees paid by the government?

Not sure what that has to do with me working through uni to pay my own rent and living expenses.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Don't think he said that.

"It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer."
Is what he said.

 

[tshirtman]

With rights come great responsibility. It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer - £10 minimum wage, free university education, free childcare, more police, more investment in an NHS (where we are already spending trillions over the next decade) All paid for by private business that needs to thrive in order to pay for our public sector spending - how Labour expect this to happen when hitting the engine of the economy with higher taxes is beyond me. Lets not forget, it was Labour that introduced tuition fees in the first place! I went to Uni in 95 and got my education for free.

As a result, we could end up with a Labour government that would undoubtedly run this country into the ground, burdened by a debt mountain that we would struggle to climb out of. Lets face it, the tories have tried 'austerity' and despite this have only halved the deficit and we still continue to grow our debt year on year until at least 2022.

As soon as night follows day, a Labour government almost always ends up with the country going bust. The 70's was the winter of discontent, and despite Brown continually telling us he had ended 'Boom and Bust' as chancellor we ended up with the biggest bust in 2008. The scary thing is that Corbyn takes the Labour party further left then in any of those periods so its scary how bad it would be this time around.

What an absolute crock, my 22 year old graduates from uni this year with £30k of debt, my 24 year old left school after his A levels and is working in IT at the airport, neither of them have ever expected anything for free, they have both grafted to get on in life.

what they do expect now is the ability to buy or rent an affordable home, the only thing the Torys have offered them is more of the same past 7 years, nothing new.

 

[SWP's back]

"It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer."
Is what he said.

Yeah good point. Burn him.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Weird. I paid for my own rent and expenses at uni by working. But I suppose I didn't think the world owes me a living.

And yet, weirdly, you think the world does owe a living to the people who might be affected by a realistic level of inheritance tax.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Has to be said that given her woeful performance so far May needs to get off Brexit because more and more people must just look at her and think SHE is the one they least trust to be able to negotiate and get a good deal for the UK

She's only just jumped back on this bus and gone back to plan A of standing at a podium reading a script and talking about Brexit, strong and stable and insulting Jeremy. Add the right wing press and their immigration rhetoric and hey presto they're trying to turn it into referendum 2.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I just want to add that our Prime Minister is still a spineless ****.

 

[worsleyweb]

I just want to add that our Prime Minister is still a spineless ****.

i think you fancy her

 

[Chippy_boy]

Besides, ... they're all feckless, lazy bastards who all want something for nothing!!!

Is that what you think, because no-one else has said so.

 

[SWP's back]

And yet, weirdly, you think the world does owe a living to the people who might be affected by a realistic level of inheritance tax.

It's theft. My beneficiaries won't be paying a penny, of that I can assure you.

 

[brass neck]

 

[Chippy_boy]

"It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer."
Is what he said.

Exactly.

How does the above in any way translate to your "all 18-24 year olds are scrounging, good for nothings"?

I'll answer for you: It does not.

 

[The blue phantom]

She really is one utter fuckin **** of a human being, May.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It's theft. My beneficiaries won't be paying a penny, of that I can assure you.

Damned right it is. Even Gordon where's-the-money-gone Brown managed to effectively raise the inheritance tax limit to £600,000. Cameron fought tooth and nail to get it raised further. Only for that stupid cow May to effectively introduce a 100% tax rate for savings over £100,000 for anyone with dementia or other illness that needs significant care at home. Bloody disgraceful and quite rightly backtracked upon.

 

[SWP's back]

I thought the mods pointed out ages ago that this thread isn't meant as some weird twitter re blogger.

But I am shocked the lefties luvvie is voting Labour. You'll be telling me that Sturgeon enjoyed the film Braveheart next.