General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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The perfect fumble said:
I'll tell you what's scary, just how much the right hates the British people, how fearful Tories are, how miniscule their aspirations and how skin crawlingly deferential.

The right embraces a vision of this country where the great unwashed must forever live in vain hope, but not expectation, that the rich (the wealth creators! A race apart!) might, from time to time, throw them the odd scrap, if not pestered too much.

It's this odd combination of pathetic little englander chest beating and supine, forelock tugging, take it up the arse cowardice, that makes me loathe the right so much. I can understand why a hedge fund managers might be a Tory, but the vast majority of Tory foot soldiers have little more than a few crumbs more than the next guy, but that is enough to differentiate them, and in fear that these pathetic extra crumbs might be snatched from them by the undeserving poor, they'll kick the man below them, while simultaneously licking the boots of their masters.

These sad souls live in a world so tiny, so full of prejudice, a world of no hope, where the great majority must live and die by the grace of others. A place where the masses are viewed as nothing more than unthinking cattle.

The right reduces people to figures on a balance sheet, they are either an asset or a liability, in an economic system controlled by a tiny minority and designed for their benefit, and anyone with more than half an ounce of sense can see it.
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Good grief.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Wrong again, the deficit is now around a quarter of what it was before the Tories took over, it was around £170 billion,
it's far lower now and is forecast to continue to do so, when it does the debt can be addressed.
So you still don't understand.
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I've come to the conclusion that there's people who either cannot understand or who refuse to accept the facts else it undermines their political ideology. Either way, it's a waste of time trying to sway them. Half of them will probably spoil the ballot paper by mistake anyway, or turn up on the wrong day.
 
The perfect fumble said:
I'll tell you what's scary, just how much the right hates the British people, how fearful Tories are, how miniscule their aspirations and how skin crawlingly deferential.

The right embraces a vision of this country where the great unwashed must forever live in vain hope, but not expectation, that the rich (the wealth creators! A race apart!) might, from time to time, throw them the odd scrap, if not pestered too much.

It's this odd combination of pathetic little englander chest beating and supine, forelock tugging, take it up the arse cowardice, that makes me loathe the right so much. I can understand why a hedge fund managers might be a Tory, but the vast majority of Tory foot soldiers have little more than a few crumbs more than the next guy, but that is enough to differentiate them, and in fear that these pathetic extra crumbs might be snatched from them by the undeserving poor, they'll kick the man below them, while simultaneously licking the boots of their masters.

These sad souls live in a world so tiny, so full of prejudice, a world of no hope, where the great majority must live and die by the grace of others. A place where the masses are viewed as nothing more than unthinking cattle.

The right reduces people to figures on a balance sheet, they are either an asset or a liability, in an economic system controlled by a tiny minority and designed for their benefit, and anyone with more than half an ounce of sense can see it.
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What an unmitigated load of bollocks. Only a very strange and rather sad individual would actually believe those views. "A vision where the great unwashed must forever live in vain hope". "A place where the masses are viewed as nothing more than unthinking cattle."

I don't honestly think you believe a word of what you wrote. You cannot possibly.
 
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Vic said:
It's still a deficit they said we wouldn't have and the debt is still getting crappier.
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Do you STILL not get it, or are you wumming?

It's like you throwing up all over the floor and then complaining that the poor sod mopping it up has missed a bit.
 
Vic said:
It's still a deficit they said we wouldn't have and the debt is still getting crappier.
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Drowning there Vic I'm afraid. The deficit is being reduced from the £170 odd billion Labour's drunken sailor
spree saddled us with, if we've established this fact, the debt will still increase until it's eradicated. Now just how Mr two E's at 'A'
level intends to decrease that by borrowing like a simpleton handed a Platinum Amex card is a tricky one for sure.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Drowning there Vic I'm afraid. The deficit is being reduced from the £170 odd billion Labour's drunken sailor
spree saddled us with, if we've established this fact, the debt will still increase until it's eradicated. Now just how Mr two E's at 'A'
level intends to decrease that by borrowing like a simpleton handed a Platinum Amex card is a tricky one for sure.
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Don't be silly, Corbyn won't have a credit card. He probably pays with crumpled fivers from his Friday pay packet. He'd rather pay with cheeses if the truth be known.
 
Thinking about it, I'm surprised he hasn't put banning all computers and robots into his manifesto. It's bloody disgusting this modern stuff taking good, honest, hard-working peoples' jobs off them.

And if we do have robots, we should enforce employers to pay them at least £10 an hour.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
So how many nations that don't have the ability to retaliate against a nuclear attack in kind have suffered nuclear attacks since 1945?
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It's called hiding under the coat tails of others.
It is stupidity in the extreme to tinker with a system that has stopped a major war in Europe for 65 years - especially with Putin in charge in Russia.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I've come to the conclusion that there's people who either cannot understand or who refuse to accept the facts else it undermines their political ideology. Either way, it's a waste of time trying to sway them. Half of them will probably spoil the ballot paper by mistake anyway, or turn up on the wrong day.
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that's the the tories for you but hey they live here and have the same rights.
 
Chippy_boy said:
What an unmitigated load of bollocks. Only a very strange and rather sad individual would actually believe those views. "A vision where the great unwashed must forever live in vain hope". "A place where the masses are viewed as nothing more than unthinking cattle."

I don't honestly think you believe a word of what you wrote. You cannot possibly.
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You've got to laugh, this must mean most of my mates fit the description of great unwashed living forever in hope,
as though living in what is the go-to destination for half the planet, is one big merry go round of grinding poverty
and deprivation, being ground under the heels of grasping plutocrats.
I'll see a few of them later on, if I can shake off the outstretched hands of emaciated starvelings on the way to the boozer.
 
Corbyn really started to flag/tire around the nuclear deterrent, he started tripping over his sentences and all he had to say was "I won't use it first use, but if we are under imminent direct attack I would follow all the required procedures to ensure we use it effectively". This is where he let his personal views override the consensus he's been talking about all campaign and it undermines him because you have to be consistent. Even if he doesn't believe in it, he's said his manifesto is consensus and it's being renewed to be used, so on that basis all he had to say was yes he would use it as a last resort to protect us, and he'd be sticking to his mantra of consensus and would very likely never have to use it anyway.

He's badly tripped himself up, and May was consistently strong last night. She may actually have pulled this off at the end.
 
BJL_City said:
Corbyn really started to flag/tire around the nuclear deterrent, he started tripping over his sentences and all he had to say was "I won't use it first use, but if we are under imminent direct attack I would follow all the required procedures to ensure we use it effectively". This is where he let his personal views override the consensus he's been talking about all campaign and it undermines him because you have to be consistent. Even if he doesn't believe in it, he's said his manifesto is consensus and it's being renewed to be used, so on that basis all he had to say was yes he would use it as a last resort to protect us, and he'd be sticking to his mantra of consensus and would very likely never have to use it anyway.

He's badly tripped himself up, and May was consistently strong last night. She may actually have pulled this off at the end.
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Good synopsis, now watch the one on BBC1 where she was flattened.
 
KenTheLandlord said:
Are you now saying they are in power because they have the majority of the vote? Ah yes, because the tories pull over 50% of the vote.
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No, he's saying that it's unlikely "half of the Tories spoil their ballot paper or turn up on the wrong day" as they gained enough seats to be in power. Keep up
 
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