Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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Nearly - Chite Street!
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General Election June 8th
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Nearly - Chite Street!
Magicpole
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Bullshit.
Two for one on cat food gets them going twice as fast.
And half price hobnobs. Stampede time.
Len Rum
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Three for ten quid Felix As Good As It Looks Senior brand is a fantastic bargain mate.Bullshit.
Two for one on cat food gets them going twice as fast.
Life doesn't get any more exciting than that.
This has indeed been explained so oftenYou're both arguing strawmen which I'm not going to engage you in.
I simply explained for those that are obviously very confused on the subject how the debt is at record levels despite the Tories reducing the deficit by 75%.
It's been explained so many times on this forum in the last two years but I'll go again. You take over a failing company, its losses have been growing on a year by year basis before you come in as follows:
Year one: £10,000 loss (10,000 debt)
Year two: £15,000 loss (25,000 debt)
Year three: £20,000 loss (45,000 debt)
You take and get things in control (overheads drop and you start improving your income) and whilst still not turning a profit, you start getting towards it
Year four £12,000 loss (57,000 debt)
Year five £8,000 loss (65,000 debt)
Year six £6,000 loss (71,000 debt)
The debt has still doubled even though you've reduced the losses by 75% but with good stewardship your back yourself to start making a profit again now everything is under control.
Ps, how anyone can say that a 75% reduction in something is "barely slowing" fuck only knows. If you're going down the motorway at 100mph and come across road works or heavy traffic and drop your speed to 25 mph then I doubt you'd say you've barely slowed.
That so many continue to get it entirely confused - and that on this thread / year, it seems to be mainly Labour voters - then you can understand how the Labour incoherence with regard their statements on the economy has been so desperately lapped up. I guess if it is what you want to hear your mind can close down to rational analysis and debate.
It is also likely why their 'fully costed manifesto' is accepted as such - they know that previous manifesto promises have not been accompanied by the associated costings that they seem to just accept superficial things at face value - when it does not bear even the shallowest scrutiny.
You can go further and start to look at the robustness of their claims on what increases in Corporation Tax will achieve etc. But you have to eventually ask yourself if it is worth it - they just want to not hear sensible challenge (or your explanations) - their is a Father Christmas after all it seems.
I've been following the chatter on the UK Voting Intentions website.
A number of people are reporting on a higher than normal turnout of young people at polling stations.
If true this could be closer than the final opinion polls have predicted.
Having said that, my home-office window overlooks our village polling station and I see nothing but oldies arriving to cast their vote...
Isn't it likely that people who are hoping for a high turn out of young people will be quick to notice and flag up any signs of a high turn out of young people? If they're reporting it early in the day its probably wishful thinking.
smudgedj
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Rubbish. Opening a fresh yellow sponged scotchbrite for pot washing is the pinnacle of retired life.Three for ten quid Felix As Good As It Looks Senior brand is a fantastic bargain mate.
Life doesn't get any more exciting than that.
voted conservative and hopeful of a comfortable victory.
Stunned that the vote above suggests more Labour support.
Not sure why you're surprised by that. Manchester has always been a Labour stronghold, and most of our users are Manchester-based. To be honest, I'm glad that, despite claims to the contrary, it's still a predominantly left wing forum. Those on the right just tend to shout louder.
Len Rum
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Most on here understand perfectly the relationship between deficit and total debt and that if you don't bring the deficit down quick enough and fast enough, the increase in your national debt can become a major problem, particularly when interest rates rise. So just to remind you, Osborne said he would eliminate the deficit by 2015 by which time the national debt would have been 1.3tn and falling. As it is the latest target is to reduce the deficit ( definitely maybe) by 2025 by which time the national debt will be two trillion plus. A major fail from the party of so called economic competence.This has indeed been explained so often
That so many continue to get it entirely confused - and that on this thread / year, it seems to be mainly Labour voters - then you can understand how the Labour incoherence with regard their statements on the economy has been so desperately lapped up. I guess if it is what you want to hear your mind can close down to rational analysis and debate.
It is also likely why their 'fully costed manifesto' is accepted as such - they know that previous manifesto promises have not been accompanied by the associated costings that they seem to just accept superficial things at face value - when it does not bear even the shallowest scrutiny.
You can go further and start to look at the robustness of their claims on what increases in Corporation Tax will achieve etc. But you have to eventually ask yourself if it is worth it - they just want to not hear sensible challenge (or your explanations) - their is a Father Christmas after all it seems.
It's the likes of yourself et al who use the deficit/national debt debate as a smokescreen to hide the rank failure of your beloved Tories.
Isn't it likely that people who are hoping for a high turn out of young people will be quick to notice and flag up any signs of a high turn out of young people? If they're reporting it early in the day its probably wishful thinking.
Yes, it's always this. Happens every election.
A fantastic day for Labour will be only losing by a 50 seat majority.
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