General Election June 8th

[Hamann Pineapple]

Explain.

Who were ahead at polls in the last election?

You seem confused.

We weren't discussing the last election.

 

[SWP's back]

You seem confused.

We weren't discussing the last election.

Oh. So your theory only came into effect when the Tories went ahead in the polls.

Makes sense.

And no, I'm not remotely confused.

 

[Danish Blue]

Generally televised debates are favoured by anyone behind in the polls and resisted by anyone ahead, for obvious reasons. As such there should be laws governing these thing, it does turn into a bit of a circus, how many people take part, which channel etc.

My political beliefs aside I am a naysayer, I don't want presence tial style politics, I don't care who is master of the sound bite and I don't care who has the whitest teeth. If we are going to have to suffer them let's put rules in place.

 

[cibaman]

Does anyone have thoughts either way on TV debates?

I think the biggest risk for May in not taking part is that she's relying on Paul Nuttall to fight the hard Brexit case which might turn out very badly.

The problem this time compared to 2015 is that the dynamics created by the possibility of a hung parliament will be missing. The SNP will only be bothered about the next referendum, with no real interest in arguing the toss with Corbyn. The Lib Dems will only be bothered about Brexit.

They could be very dull.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I think the biggest risk for May in not taking part is that she's relying on Paul Nuttall to fight the hard Brexit case which might turn out very badly.

The problem this time compared to 2015 is that the dynamics created by the possibility of a hung parliament will be missing. The SNP will only be bothered about the next referendum, with no real interest in arguing the toss with Corbyn. The Lib Dems will only be bothered about Brexit.

They could be very dull.

I agree, I think they will be very dull if they happen

Anyone who has watched PMQs over the past 9 months will be sick to the back teeth of Labour, SNP and Lib Dems constantly banging the same, agenda driven, drum

If May let's them argue amongst themselves, is there not an argument to say that the other parties will do themselves more harm than good as there will be no PM to argue with. As they appear to have very little to say, they could put potential voters off?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

May could not use the sneering ad hom that is her sole device in PMQ in a debate.
When she has to think on her feet about issues she is usually very poor.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

I think it's a bold move by maggette. She didnt need to take a risk. She wants clarity and stability for the country.full marks I say.

She's called an election she promised not to, to get a mandate she claims she already has, for a policy she said was a bad idea

 

[law74]

I think you have been reading the Guardian too much. JC's performance at QT is invariably lacklustre, poor and rarely hits home. The problem with the debates are that politicians say what they want and nobody ever challenges their statements with facts that are proved. TM could say that 1m more people are in work than 5 years ago and JC will say that isn't true. When there is no independent source readily available to help the electorate these debates are pointless. They even disagree about which source is correct when quoting figures. How can a treasury source be wrong for arguments sake. If there was one source that everyone has to stick by then at least we, the voters, would know a little more about who is telling the truth

Very seldom read an article from the guardian as it is too right wing for me, but what cannot be denied is that the tax revenue is not as it would be if all these great new jobs were actually really, the waiting lists for housing and the NHS are higher than they were before the tories came to power, public transport infrastructure isn't fit for purpose, education is failing future generations & the police, prisons & public services in general are in a very bad state.
The next 7 weeks will be VERY INTERESTING.

 

[Bill]

Don't think so William.

:)

 

[Blue Hefner]

May could not use the sneering ad hom that is her sole device in PMQ in a debate.
When she has to think on her feet about issues she is usually very poor.

But is much thinking on feet necessary in these debates? I'm sure all questions will be put to them beforehand and answers rehearsed.

 

[Bill]

Love her.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Very seldom read an article from the guardian as it is too right wing for me, but what cannot be denied is that the tax revenue is not as it would be if all these great new jobs were actually really, the waiting lists for housing and the NHS are higher than they were before the tories came to power, public transport infrastructure isn't fit for purpose, education is failing future generations & the police, prisons & public services in general are in a very bad state.
The next 7 weeks will be VERY INTERESTING.

Corbyn will say the NHS is a mess and May will say that record amounts are being invested in it - both statements are probably true

Corbyn will say Labour will invest and May will say he will bankrupt the country - both statements could be true

There are very few hard facts, and if there are, they certainly won't be pushed by the host

 

[jimharri]

I see Teresa May is in Bolton tonight. I trust all BM'ers will be there to give her a traditional, warm, Northern welcome.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I'm crushed. I was hoping a man of your obvious knowledge and wisdom would like me.

It will take ages to get over the shock of this.

Oh there ye go.

Troll my arse. I never brought up the situation up here once. But you only see what you want to see.

A bit like your politics.?

You are without doubt a troll and nothing more. You have no affiliation with this forum aside from trolling. You refuse to answer any questions that debunk your nationalist agenda. Troll and clown to boot.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Hopefully, the debate will get on to some real issues like the underfunding of Social Care.

A reduction in foreign aid could help to support social care that also supports the NHS.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Hopefully, the debate will get on to some real issues like the underfunding of Social Care.

A reduction in foreign aid could help to support social care that also supports the NHS.

Agree we need to take care of our own people in need of help before pumping billions into foreign aid schemes where 90% of it is syphoned off by corrupt officials.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Agree we need to take care of our own people in need of help before pumping billions into foreign aid schemes where 90% of it is syphoned off by corrupt officials.

I think the £4million we give to North Korea is money well spent, though......

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I think the £4million we give to North Korea is money well spent, though......

Haha, not to mention the billion pound subsidy to the ungreatful whinging bunch north of the border so well represented on here by the likes of magic pole.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Gorton by election called off.

Will now be held in June.

 

[jimharri]

Haha, not to mention the billion pound subsidy to the ungreatful whinging bunch north of the border so well represented on here by the likes of magic pole.

WJK would disagree with you there!