General Election June 8th

[Blue Mooner]

That is true, I've not met many kids who say they're voting Conservative, but again, if 85% of them manage to
haul their arses out of bed, instead of the usual 25% or so, May would indeed be screwed.

With rights come great responsibility. It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer - £10 minimum wage, free university education, free childcare, more police, more investment in an NHS (where we are already spending trillions over the next decade) All paid for by private business that needs to thrive in order to pay for our public sector spending - how Labour expect this to happen when hitting the engine of the economy with higher taxes is beyond me. Lets not forget, it was Labour that introduced tuition fees in the first place! I went to Uni in 95 and got my education for free.

As a result, we could end up with a Labour government that would undoubtedly run this country into the ground, burdened by a debt mountain that we would struggle to climb out of. Lets face it, the tories have tried 'austerity' and despite this have only halved the deficit and we still continue to grow our debt year on year until at least 2022.

As soon as night follows day, a Labour government almost always ends up with the country going bust. The 70's was the winter of discontent, and despite Brown continually telling us he had ended 'Boom and Bust' as chancellor we ended up with the biggest bust in 2008. The scary thing is that Corbyn takes the Labour party further left then in any of those periods so its scary how bad it would be this time around.

 

[Don Karleone]

Rudd is going isn't she?

Yeah. Was hoping there may be a chance of May turning up.

 

[worsleyweb]

With rights come great responsibility. It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer - £10 minimum wage, free university education, free childcare, more police, more investment in an NHS (where we are already spending trillions over the next decade) All paid for by private business that needs to thrive in order to pay for our public sector spending - how Labour expect this to happen when hitting the engine of the economy with higher taxes is beyond me. Lets not forget, it was Labour that introduced tuition fees in the first place! I went to Uni in 95 and got my education for free.

As a result, we could end up with a Labour government that would undoubtedly run this country into the ground, burdened by a debt mountain that we would struggle to climb out of. Lets face it, the tories have tried 'austerity' and despite this have only halved the deficit and we still continue to grow our debt year on year until at least 2022.

As soon as night follows day, a Labour government almost always ends up with the country going bust. The 70's was the winter of discontent, and despite Brown continually telling us he had ended 'Boom and Bust' as chancellor we ended up with the biggest bust in 2008. The scary thing is that Corbyn takes the Labour party further left then in any of those periods so its scary how bad it would be this time around.

That's all that needs to be said on the matter really - what a fantastic post. Well said Sir.

 

[cibaman]

Of course I would disagree regarding Corbyn, he's run an excellent campaign and it's a stonking manifesto, when he loses, he will, at the vey least, have moved the political debate to the left after forty years of drift to the right.

May limping over the line is not quite how it will pan out, she'll win but not by the margin she wanted, she'll actually be weaker post election, because she called this fiasco to strengthen her hand and she's managed by her sheer incompetence to weaken it. Post election she'll be more in thrall to the hard Brexit loons in her party than she was before.

May has had to sell herself to her Europhobic right and to UKIP to secure a mandate, that was never her intention, she wanted this election to secure her mandate, but that's not the way it's turning out.

She's politically fucked, she'll be gone in a year.

Which Tory MP would be mad enough to take on the Tory leadership mid way through the Brexit negotiations? Surely the credible candidates will wait until its over?

Even if she had fought a decent election campaign the Brexit negotiations would see her off. It would be almost impossible for any PM to survive them since there is no consensus on what would constitute an acceptable, realistic outcome. She's made the task task doubly impossible by fighting the election on the basis of her Brexit negotiating skills.

 

[SWP's back]

Wasn't in the top ten last year for growth.

Has the UK's GDP growth been the strongest in the last seven years?

Also we grew by 1.8% last year. Hardly a poor performance.

 

[The perfect fumble]

With rights come great responsibility. It is frightening (to me) that a generation of 18-24 year olds, let down by a catastrophic labour education system that brainwashed this generation into believing that the world owed them a living, are enticed into voting (when normally they can't be bothered) by the many 'freebies' on offer - £10 minimum wage, free university education, free childcare, more police, more investment in an NHS (where we are already spending trillions over the next decade) All paid for by private business that needs to thrive in order to pay for our public sector spending - how Labour expect this to happen when hitting the engine of the economy with higher taxes is beyond me. Lets not forget, it was Labour that introduced tuition fees in the first place! I went to Uni in 95 and got my education for free.

As a result, we could end up with a Labour government that would undoubtedly run this country into the ground, burdened by a debt mountain that we would struggle to climb out of. Lets face it, the tories have tried 'austerity' and despite this have only halved the deficit and we still continue to grow our debt year on year until at least 2022.

As soon as night follows day, a Labour government almost always ends up with the country going bust. The 70's was the winter of discontent, and despite Brown continually telling us he had ended 'Boom and Bust' as chancellor we ended up with the biggest bust in 2008. The scary thing is that Corbyn takes the Labour party further left then in any of those periods so its scary how bad it would be this time around.

The usual rag tag reactionary bollocks, poor people just want free stuff, uni fees introduced by Labour (but who built the red bricks and who put grants there in the first place) . Winter of discontent but no mention of Heath and his fuck up or Thatcher spunking our oil revenue while destroying our manufacturing base, debt mountain down to Brown, the same crazed socialist responsible for the 2008 crash.

Don't think! Be afraid! Comply! They're all Marxists! Fear, fear, fear! We should know our place and keep waiting for trickle down.

Makes my skin crawl.

 

[worsleyweb]

The usual rag tag reactionary bollocks, poor people just want free stuff, uni fees introduced by Labour (but who built the red bricks and who put grants there in the first place) . Winter of discontent but no mention of Heath and his fuck up or Thatcher spunking our oil revenue while destroying our manufacturing base, debt mountain down to Brown, the same crazed socialist responsible for the 2008 crash.

Don't think! Be afraid! Comply! They're all Marxists! Fear, fear, fear! We should know our place and keep waiting for trickle down.

Makes my skin crawl.

Its all True though.

 

[SWP's back]

The usual rag tag reactionary bollocks, poor people just want free stuff, uni fees introduced by Labour (but who built the red bricks and who put grants there in the first place) . Winter of discontent but no mention of Heath and his fuck up or Thatcher spunking our oil revenue while destroying our manufacturing base, debt mountain down to Brown, the same crazed socialist responsible for the 2008 crash.

Don't think! Be afraid! Comply! They're all Marxists! Fear, fear, fear! We should know our place and keep waiting for trickle down.

Makes my skin crawl.

You're quite an angry person.

 

[The perfect fumble]

You're quite an angry person.

With a lot to be angry about.

 

[worsleyweb]

With a lot to be angry about.

The Angry party.

 

[inbetween]

Which Tory MP would be mad enough to take on the Tory leadership mid way through the Brexit negotiations? Surely the credible candidates will wait until its over?

Even if she had fought a decent election campaign the Brexit negotiations would see her off. It would be almost impossible for any PM to survive them since there is no consensus on what would constitute an acceptable, realistic outcome. She's made the task task doubly impossible by fighting the election on the basis of her Brexit negotiating skills.

I wouldn't worry about that because the Brexit negotiations will take 5-10 years. With our stance, their stance and the fact there are 20+ member states to consider there is just no reasonable way it can be done in 2 years. It will likely get extended to as long as it will reasonably take.

Remember it has already been 3 months of 24 and we have not even entered the room. It took the EU 7 years just to negotiate a trade deal with Canada so I just can't see how we can negotiate an exit PLUS a trade deal in under half that time.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Corbyn going for the jugular on May's fear of TV debates. Good on him, though you can't blame the Tories for hiding her. Whatever she does now will be a disaster; if she goes to Cambridge she'll get annihilated and if she stays at home she'll get annihilated.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

MVP or another apologist? What do you see?

 

[inchy14]

The usual rag tag reactionary bollocks, poor people just want free stuff, uni fees introduced by Labour (but who built the red bricks and who put grants there in the first place) . Winter of discontent but no mention of Heath and his fuck up or Thatcher spunking our oil revenue while destroying our manufacturing base, debt mountain down to Brown, the same crazed socialist responsible for the 2008 crash.

Don't think! Be afraid! Comply! They're all Marxists! Fear, fear, fear! We should know our place and keep waiting for trickle down.

Makes my skin crawl.

But he's got some decent points, who is funding this £10 minimum wage? Do people not realise that most small to medium companies will be crippled by it? Also what happens to the price of goods when the minimum goes up? Yes that's right they raise accordingly so no one ends up actually better off anyway.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Is that the same wealth and prosperity that has gone absolutely nowhere under 7 years of Tories? The idea that the Tories are good with the economy is the biggest con job going. They have failed completely and are now using Brexit as an excuse to fail even more.

You must have a very short memory indeed if you can't remember back to what the state of the economy was when they took over. Is growth higher now that it was then? Yes. Is the deficit reduced? Yes. Is inflation lower? Yes. Is the level of employment higher? Yes.

That's the trouble with Labour supporters, they conveniently sweep under the carpet the fucking mess they ALWAYS leave the economy after their time in office. And when the Tories try hard to sort it out, by doing the right things like cutting our spending to balance our books, Labour opposes it. And then have the fucking audacity to criticise the Tories for not sorting it out instantly.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Barry Gardiner is coming out of this campaign very well, as is Angela Rayner. Labour might just be in the process of getting a party together.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

MVP or another apologist? What do you see?

The journo lol. Michael is butting in, please be quiet Barry.
I realise Michael is talking about something different but if i could widen the question to include what Michael said, what says you Bazza?

Christ. the standard of interview.

 

[inbetween]

But he's got some decent points, who is funding this £10 minimum wage? Do people not realise that most small to medium companies will be crippled by it? Also what happens to the price of goods when the minimum goes up? Yes that's right they raise accordingly so no one ends up actually better off anyway.

The price of goods will go up, pubs will go bust... Basically any company who is doing 'OK' and who relies on cheap labour is going to suffer. The amount of startups will be lower and unless he does something for them they just won't bother with the prospect of 30% taxes on profits.

For anyone not on the minimum wage this will make zero difference and considering Corbyn wants to create a high wage economy I don't really understand what he is going to do to help it along. Any company in the high tech industry will face green levies, higher tax and higher employment costs, I still cannot work out how that results in higher wages. He has said nothing on how he plans to invest in these industries to cushion the anti-business stance.

In our industry he will probably ban arms and stop spending on defence too so that will be thousands out of work as well.

 

[grunge]

Would anyone take seriously a tweet that used the term MVP?

Minimum viable product?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Its all True though.