General Election June 8th

[SWP's back]

thought twitter posts annoyed you

They do and I think something went over your head.

 

[Magicpole]

You've been a decent contributor on here for a while now, but the above is a disgraceful post. Not only is it extremely offensive, it's grossly inaccurate and in the much part, completely made up. Shame on you.

How is it offensive if you think people who carry out such things are cunts?

It's not made up.

She has cut benefits to the sick. She will stop free school meals. She wants to bring back fox hunting. She will privatise health more. She was trying to get through a dementia tax.

Where are you getting your facts? That all either happened or she is proposing it. She's a heartless ****.

 

[SWP's back]

She was trying to get through a dementia tax.

Already in place.... just for property and leaves less than £30k rather than £100k.

Why aren't you raving about that?

 

[jay_mcfc]

The problem with Sturgeon being there for Corbyn is that to get access to the Scottish seats Labour would surely have to guarantee an independence referendum in any coalition. It will tell us a lot tonight how Sturgeon acts with Corbyn because I think he will be very uncomfortable around the independence question.

If it comes up and he bumbles then it isn't going to go down well at all because so far as I can see he has no real position on it and she isn't going to just put up and shut up.

Sturgeon has her eye on a coalition so I don't think she'll go too hard on him. But for Corbyn he's already 1 up today and if he keeps his shit together and has a full understanding of where he's at with the Scottish ref2 then he has a chance to gain some votes from May doing her Where's Wally impression.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

How is it offensive if you think people who carry out such things are cunts?

It's not made up.

She has cut benefits to the sick. She will stop free school meals. She wants to bring back fox hunting. She will privatise health more. She was trying to get through a dementia tax.

Where are you getting your facts? That all either happened or she is proposing it. She's a heartless ****.

Did you renew your city season ticket?

 

[urban genie]

I laughed out loud at that. I've never been called a troll before. Chill out. Plenty hate her.

Plenty on here in first 100 pages when the polls were wider and may hadn't completely fucked up the campaign were crowing and refering to labour and it's voters in many derogatary terms (though not as cunts I admit) , unfortunately tories are a bit like the rags when it ain't going their way and cry foul, at such comments as yours

Personnally I wouldn't call may a ****, she isn't worthy of the indignation like thatcher, reagan, tebit etc? now they were actually effectively good at their job of delivering their ideology, mays too useless though, not worth my anger.

I would be able to bring myself to call IDS, Gove or Rabb one though.

 

[urban genie]

They do and I think something went over your head.

Probably busy day at work only read about 4 posts in the thread today, so will have missed some replies.

anyway only popping in for 30 mims while travelling to annoy the right wing today as no time for a diacussion till later, will save proper debate and analysis after the bbc debate

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It's theft. My beneficiaries won't be paying a penny, of that I can assure you.

Your just a mass of contradictions and I have no clue what you really think. You were implying criticism of me for helping my kids out at university by paying their rent, as you stood on your own two feet and that's fair enough. Wanting to squirrel everything away, presumably for your benefactors to inherit, seems the exact opposite.

 

[The blue phantom]

Ycmiu though that she's bottled it tonight, telling every fucker she's the best person for the job while absolutely fuckin shit scared of a face to face debate.

What a fuckin coward.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Her heart rate increases, rictus smile, nervous laugh, difficulty maintaining eye contact, she takes gulps of air, lies frantically and hyperventilates...


And the Tory sheep begin to panic...

 

[Blue Mooner]

What an absolute crock, my 22 year old graduates from uni this year with £30k of debt, my 24 year old left school after his A levels and is working in IT at the airport, neither of them have ever expected anything for free, they have both grafted to get on in life.

what they do expect now is the ability to buy or rent an affordable home, the only thing the Torys have offered them is more of the same past 7 years, nothing new.

My experiences of that generation generally is not good. Does that mean there aren't talented, hard working young people of that generation, of course not, there are likely hundreds of thousands, but as a generation, looking at that demographic on the whole, I stand by my 'general' observations and experiences.

The mere fact that I have seen campaigns on social media urging young people to vote and explaining step by step what they need to do (some of it gobsmackingky imbecilic in the basic nature of its content) The fact that historically they have turned out to vote in such low numbers is an anecdotal example of that.

It's borne out too by many politicians who peddle the idea (true or not!?) that we need immigrants with the skills we don't have, and to do the jobs in the NHS, which in itself is an indictment on our own country's education and training after 13 years of Labour education. I would far sooner get these lost generation of people the skills they need to fill any gaps in the labour market rather than continually importing skills.

I don't remember the levels of immigration in the 80's and 90's as we have now and yet the hospitals, hotels and restaurants still appeared to work fine then. So why the problem now?

Corbyn has nothing new, it's bordering on communist and you only have to look at countries like Ukraine, Poland, the old East Germany to realise how successful that's been...

I'm still absolutely gobsmacked that there are so many people that believe Corbyns policies are a good idea when there is so much evidence to the contrary.

I'm also fearful of a guy that has the nerve to stay as the leader of his party when so many of his own party were actively telling him to go....

 

[Machiavelli]

Ycmiu though that she's bottled it tonight, telling every fucker she's the best person for the job while absolutely fuckin shit scared of a face to face debate.

What a fuckin coward.

She's shit scared of a question, let alone a debate. You can see her squirming whenever she's asked something.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Ycmiu though that she's bottled it tonight, telling every fucker she's the best person for the job while absolutely fuckin shit scared of a face to face debate.

What a fuckin coward.

Yep she has been awful, utterly dreadful. However what is interesting is most people who are right of centre will happily acknowledge that but the left call her a **** and those who vote for her the same.

I just don't get how that helps change people's mind..

 

[SWP's back]

Plenty on here in first 100 pages when the polls were wider and may hadn't completely fucked up the campaign were crowing and refering to labour and it's voters in many derogatary terms (though not as cunts I admit) , unfortunately tories are a bit like the rags when it ain't going their way and cry foul, at such comments as yours

Personnally I wouldn't call may a ****, she isn't worthy of the indignation like thatcher, reagan, tebit etc? now they were actually effectively good at their job of delivering their ideology, mays too useless though, not worth my anger.

I would be able to bring myself to call IDS, Gove or Rabb one though.

Come on now, the Tories have been called cunts on here from the first few pages onwards and the same posters are posting now as they did then.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ycmiu though that she's bottled it tonight, telling every fucker she's the best person for the job while absolutely fuckin shit scared of a face to face debate.

What a fuckin coward.

She's a spineless ****, that's what she is.

 

[Machiavelli]

Yep she has been awful, utterly dreadful. However what is interesting is most people who are right of centre will happily acknowledge that but the left call her a **** and those who vote for her the same.

I just don't get how that helps change people's mind..

It doesn't sound like anyone in here is going to change their minds any time soon.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Staggering to think isn't it that someone like May and a party that the Labour police on here find so vile, are still ahead in the poles. Presumably Corbyn is EVEN LESS popular. Amazing eh. Who'd have thought it.

 

[SWP's back]

Your just a mass of contradictions and I have no clue what you really think. You were implying criticism of me for helping my kids out at university by paying their rent, as you stood on your own two feet and that's fair enough. Wanting to squirrel everything away, presumably for your benefactors to inherit, seems the exact opposite.

You have every right to pay whatever for your kids. And more power to your elbow. My folks couldn't afford to so I had to pitch in.

Now imagine if the government tried to take 40% of whatever you wanted to give your kids for rent and living expenses and you'd be rightly pissed off.

 

[The perfect fumble]

So you don't think that raising minimum wage to £10 an hour is going to cause business to close? And don't you agree that if people have more money in their pocket, the price of goods will increase because it's now costing more to produce goods and services due to higher costs, wages, tax etc and because of that people will be no better off and some probably worse as companies lay off staff to cope with the wage increase.

They're fucked in Sweden and they don't know it, maybe you should have a word....

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017...ost-other-countries-at-just-about-everything/

 

[Cheesy]

I'm still absolutely gobsmacked that there are so many people that believe Corbyns policies are a good idea when there is so much evidence to the contrary.

They don't really you know. They just hate 'the rich' and those who aspire to better themselves.