George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[Dax777]

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I get self defence but being chased down a street after shooting some poor **** with an assault rifle and then shooting some poor cunts again with said assault rifle is not and never will be, self defence.

Its fucked up is what it is. It is murder.

I have now seen pretty much all the videos I could get my hands on. And there were lots of them from different perspective showing both shooting scenarios.
Sadly in both cases Kyle was originally being chased. In the first case, he was being chased by a guy who had some object in his hand.

Some speculas a molotov cocktail. He threw the bag at the shooter who jumped forward to avoid the thrown object as he kept running and the thrower gave chase, as he got to the end with the guy still chasing he turned and shit his pursuer..
He pursueer dropped between 2 cars, and on of his friends came around to help him, so did the shooter who had circled around the car.

He then turned, made a call and started running to where the 2,ND clip which most have seen of his encounter with 3-4 guys..

MY ability??? That's rich coming from you!!

I'm not the one making judgements about about a person who took an action on TV, not knowing he'd have a job to return to.

A) How do you know he didn't ask his co-workers about the subject? Were you there...??

B) How do you know he didn't keep his own counsel on the matter before making a decision, right there and then??

You don't.

But, it seems you are the All Seeing Eye of Bluemoon.

You need to sort your head out.

Just like the likelihood of Claustrophobia was close to Zero, the likelihood that Kenny gets fired is below Zero. Fire a black man for supporting BLM and the NBA? Stop it dude.

Look I know you are removed from the context, but there is absolutely no risk whatsoever for doing this. This is fake bravery. Virtue Signalling at it's worst.

 

[blueinsa]

@Dax777 I understand he was being chased. My issue and everyone's issue should be a civilian walking the streets with an assault rifle.

One with which he shoots 3 people, 2 of them dead.

It's so fucked up i don't even know where to begin?

Honestly im beginning to think that a vast majority of the American public are both morally and emotionally bankrupt as they sleepwalk around these issues.

 

[Dax777]

Again, absorb the info as a whole.

Do yourself a favour and apply some... just SOME critical thinking to subject matter and reading posts.

Thanks.

I don't take any post with insults directed at those who didn't insult you seriously.

If you want your post taken seriously. Well respond like an adult. And use that 'critical thinking' to come up with something other than insults.

 

[Dax777]

@Dax777 I understand he was being chased. My issue and everyone's issue should be a civilian walking the streets with an assault rifle.

One with which he shoots 3 people, 2 of them dead.

It's so fucked up i don't even know where to begin?

Honestly im beginning to think that a vast majority of the American public are both morally and emotionally bankrupt as they sleepwalk around these issues.

I can't argue the gun vs anti-gun. As it stands America is generally still a gun country. So I have to discuss based on that reality and not a hoped for one.

Anyway, my theory is that we are in the early stages of a Civil War and lots of people are being used as useful idiots.

My suspicion is that foreign actors are seriously influencing and egging on this Civil War. And many of us are falling for it.

 

[hilts]

I can't argue the gun vs anti-gun. As it stands America is generally still a gun country. So I have to discuss based on that reality and not a hoped for one.

Anyway, my theory is that we are in the early stages of a Civil War and lots of people are being used as useful idiots.

My suspicion is that foreign actors are seriously influencing and egging on this Civil War. And many of us are falling for it.

Not sure why you are blaming Hugh Grant but my money is on the continued treatment of Black people added to the fucking moron of a president in the White House.

 

[blueinsa]

I can't argue the gun vs anti-gun. As it stands America is generally still a gun country. So I have to discuss based on that reality and not a hoped for one.

Anyway, my theory is that we are in the early stages of a Civil War and lots of people are being used as useful idiots.

My suspicion is that foreign actors are seriously influencing and egging on this Civil War. And many of us are falling for it.

Agree totally that its headed for civil war.

Politics is not much better here and thank fuck we don't have access to the weapons because i fear it would be no different.

 

[BobKowalski]

My answer is that a discussion about police budgets is perfectly reasonable, fine and OK, and if, after these discussions have taken place, there is a consensus to remove police funding and allocate it to other departments, I'm perfectly OK with that too. In fact I have said this numerous times, in various ways, on here, check it out if you like. Now, if you can absorb and understand that, and accept it is a stance probably near to the thoughts of most normal people, we're hunky dory.
So, as that clearly reasonable view should be mutually acceptable, why does AOC, and many City mayors, all in places where rioting is endemic, not want this, but want to simply defund them, no clever math, as she puts it, simply defund?
Ask your old schoolmates if you like.

Given the reaction from the Kenosha police force to a white armed youth murdering people in the street vs their reaction to an unarmed black man, perhaps it’s because some police forces are not fit for purpose?

Do you think a police force should not be disbanded even if it is rotten to the core? Do you think police forces should encourage and work alongside armed civilians whose aim is to murder a section of the population the police are sworn to protect?

 

[SWP's back]

Look, I understand the reasoning that has evolved after the initial slogans.
What I'm saying is that the BLM organisation is not saying what you're saying, and the fact that a prominent politician has categorically stated defunding means exactly what it says.

Defunding

Ok mate, that darling of the left AOC's message to the world is obviously too much for you to to try and rationalise, as it's a bit of a contrast to just discussing budgets.
Mustn't discuss that, must we?

Where has called for the abolishment of the police?

“Ms Ocasio-Cortez expressed her support during a debate on New York Spectrum News

"The reduction of our NYPD budget and defunding a $6 billion budget, that costs us books in the hands of our children and costs us very badly needed investment in NYCHA and public housing," Ms Ocasio-Cortez said.“

So in the above she speaks of a reduction in budget. Same as in her instagram:

 

[SWP's back]

My answer is that a discussion about police budgets is perfectly reasonable, fine and OK, and if, after these discussions have taken place, there is a consensus to remove police funding and allocate it to other departments, I'm perfectly OK with that too. In fact I have said this numerous times, in various ways, on here, check it out if you like. Now, if you can absorb and understand that, and accept it is a stance probably near to the thoughts of most normal people, we're hunky dory.
So, as that clearly reasonable view should be mutually acceptable, why does AOC, and many City mayors, all in places where rioting is endemic, not want this, but want to simply defund them, no clever math, as she puts it, simply defund?
Ask your old schoolmates if you like.

How are you still not understanding what “defund the police” means?

 

[BobKowalski]

Again, absorb the info as a whole.

Do yourself a favour and apply some... just SOME critical thinking to subject matter and reading posts.

Thanks.

You are debating someone who refers to the white shooter as ‘Kyle’.

The poster is a troll. The whole point of his posts on this issue or on Trump or on any race issues is to troll for the side doing the shooting and the killing by dumping piles of poo where ever they go until you your head hurts with it all.