Gibbs - No red card?

It doesn't stop inept officials being in charge of the video.

We have the closest close up as they do in rugby all slowed down to snail's pace AND shown on the big screen for all and sundry to see. Let Dermot G or Howie Redshirt have the brass neck to call summat else when fifty or sixty thousand have seen what happened. The trouble with Howie in his shed is that he is allowed to 'explain' what has happened, why it's happened and what will happen next, when the Laws of the Game are quite clear. They spend a minute or two with mic shoved up nose to re-interpret the Laws. It happens every week in the studio from ex-pros who come out with some of the most banal shite ever spoken in a sports studio - "He was entitled to go down . . . . . . ", 'There was contact", "He's not that sort of player . . . . . !" - none of which you could find written in the Laws of the Game.
 
We have the closest close up as they do in rugby all slowed down to snail's pace AND shown on the big screen for all and sundry to see. Let Dermot G or Howie Redshirt have the brass neck to call summat else when fifty or sixty thousand have seen what happened. The trouble with Howie in his shed is that he is allowed to 'explain' what has happened, why it's happened and what will happen next, when the Laws of the Game are quite clear. They spend a minute or two with mic shoved up nose to re-interpret the Laws. It happens every week in the studio from ex-pros who come out with some of the most banal shite ever spoken in a sports studio - "He was entitled to go down . . . . . . ", 'There was contact", "He's not that sort of player . . . . . !" - none of which you could find written in the Laws of the Game.

Totally agree. But you then find all and sundry quoting these little gems, as fact.
 
No idea about cricket and league but the referees are held to account by a neutral body in union, it's ridiculous letting the refs effectively do their own performance reviews via the PGMOL.
Ex city player Richard jobson is involved in marking or grading the refs now I think
 
The Fa/FIFA have absolutely nothing to gain by bringing in video refs. Best leave it to 'interpretation' then they all can move on when a disgraceful decision is given/not given as they can explain it away as 'seen them given' or the ref did well as he was 'managing the event'
 
video technology is a must, too many wrong decisions are being made by inept officials

the game had stopped for the foul, all he had to do is 30 seconds with the fourth official just like the viewing public did on sky knew that was a straight red

In theory, this should work, but as witnessed earlier in the same game, we can have pundits and former refs look at video evidence of Sanchez punching the ball into the net and still insist it was a legitimate goal. Video evidence is a noble idea, but if the *experts' who are viewing the video are the same old people we rely on to analyse the games for us, then it is pointless.
 
Who's going to be the video ref though, a former referee? NBC had Dermot Gallagher in the studio and he shamelessly backed the fucker to the hilt over the yellow card. It's accountability and transparency we need as well as technology.

Strange ! On the Skysports website he says Red card and hand-balled goal should have been disallowed !
 
How do so many other sports get it right more often than not. Is it because their referees are not glorified by the media?
Surely there's no sports referee glorified more than Nigel Owens, the rugby union official. Yet he rarely makes high profile mistakes.

Many (not all) video decisions in other sports are definitive answers though. Was the ball over the line? Was there downward pressure? Was the ball in or out? Did it hit the bat? Would it have hit the wicket? Etc. The football decisions we are talking about here are largely subjective. As Aguero said, who will review the decisions and what's to stop them being just as biased as the referees we are complaining about?
 
Surely there's no sports referee glorified more than Nigel Owens, the rugby union official. Yet he rarely makes high profile mistakes.

Many (not all) video decisions in other sports are definitive answers though. Was the ball over the line? Was there downward pressure? Was the ball in or out? Did it hit the bat? Would it have hit the wicket? Etc. The football decisions we are talking about here are largely subjective. As Aguero said, who will review the decisions and what's to stop them being just as biased as the referees we are complaining about?

I'd think that it would lead to all manner of a mess if the video reffing was laughably bad, but they will be dependent on the TV companies providing the pictures.

As you suggest (I think), the bigger problem is that most are opinions - foul/no foul rather than definitive.

I think it helps rugby codes and cricket immensely that mouthing off to the ref is penalised properly, and wardancing in front of hi gets a fine or a ban. Rugby refs are 'sir' to the players.

You're right about Owens though. The fact that all the southern nations are happy to have him in charge says a lot.
 
Didn't we get a defender red carded against the arse at ours some years back for a last man foul... I seem to remember the ball was going away from goal. cant remember who it was though so cant find footage.
 
Didn't we get a defender red carded against the arse at ours some years back for a last man foul... I seem to remember the ball was going away from goal. cant remember who it was though so cant find footage.
that was one of the games I actually went too,sure in was onuah in about the 5th mnute
 

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