Good Rape, Bad Rape, Not really Rape

[stonerblue]

These 2 got 11 years each. Considering the fact this seems to be a "your word against ours" scenario, I am glad there was a conviction and a relatively severe sentence.

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the kid on the right Ali was being investigated for a similar offence in Stretford . Baiting young girls from a half way house hostel near Victoria park ,used to see him plying young girls with weed and beer .Heard he caught for growing supplying green,his mate lost his licence for his shop . Glad they caught up with the scumbags.

Some idiotic posters on here would class that as 'good rape' considering the girl was drunk and got in the car willingly.

 

[Rammyblues]

Just another excuse to cut prison numbers and save money. That is all this Gov is about, how to cut spending on services no matter what the impact on the country. Of course they spin it in the most positive way they can. Mans a plank.

 

[PJMCC1UK]

These 2 got 11 years each. Considering the fact this seems to be a "your word against ours" scenario, I am glad there was a conviction and a relatively severe sentence.

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the kid on the right Ali was being investigated for a similar offence in Stretford . Baiting young girls from a half way house hostel near Victoria park ,used to see him plying young girls with weed and beer .Heard he caught for growing supplying green,his mate lost his licence for his shop . Glad they caught up with the scumbags.

Some idiotic posters on here would class that as 'good rape' considering the girl was drunk and got in the car willingly.

No one on here nor Ken Clarke said 'good rape' Your clearly one of those posters who quotes things that weren't said to prove your point.
As has been my stance all along all rape is bad. But there a differences in each case which are taken into consideration when brought to trial.

Can you stop reading the hysterical headlines and give it some thought.
Just the same as murder. All murder is bad but they all have differing reasons and outcomes and circumstances. All of which lead to differing court cases and sentencing. If anything it's the people who lump everything in as one that cheapen the whole thing.

 

[stonerblue]

the kid on the right Ali was being investigated for a similar offence in Stretford . Baiting young girls from a half way house hostel near Victoria park ,used to see him plying young girls with weed and beer .Heard he caught for growing supplying green,his mate lost his licence for his shop . Glad they caught up with the scumbags.

Some idiotic posters on here would class that as 'good rape' considering the girl was drunk and got in the car willingly.

No one on here nor Ken Clarke said 'good rape' Your clearly one of those posters who quotes things that weren't said to prove your point.
As has been my stance all along all rape is bad. But there a differences in each case which are taken into consideration when brought to trial.

Can you stop reading the hysterical headlines and give it some thought.
Just the same as murder. All murder is bad but they all have differing reasons and outcomes and circumstances. All of which lead to differing court cases and sentencing. If anything it's the people who lump everything in as one that cheapen the whole thing.

Given the thread titles 3 choices of classification then i'm sure several bluemoon members would put that case in the classification i suggested.

Where have i quoted anything?

I'm fully aware of the workings of the legal system thanks. Rape is rape, when other charges relating to the offence like 'with extreme violence' or 'aggravated' or 'kidnap' are added then the offnece becomes more serious in the eyes of the law. The point i'm trying to make is that i think rape is a worse offence than anything else and a long mandatory sentence should be given for it.

Can you stop being so patronising

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

Some idiotic posters on here would class that as 'good rape' considering the girl was drunk and got in the car willingly.

No one on here nor Ken Clarke said 'good rape' Your clearly one of those posters who quotes things that weren't said to prove your point.
As has been my stance all along all rape is bad. But there a differences in each case which are taken into consideration when brought to trial.

Can you stop reading the hysterical headlines and give it some thought.
Just the same as murder. All murder is bad but they all have differing reasons and outcomes and circumstances. All of which lead to differing court cases and sentencing. If anything it's the people who lump everything in as one that cheapen the whole thing.

Given the thread titles 3 choices of classification then i'm sure several bluemoon members would put that case in the classification i suggested.

Where have i quoted anything?

I'm fully aware of the workings of the legal system thanks. Rape is rape, when other charges relating to the offence like 'with extreme violence' or 'aggravated' or 'kidnap' are added then the offnece becomes more serious in the eyes of the law. The point i'm trying to make is that i think rape is a worse offence than anything else and a long mandatory sentence should be given for it.

Can you stop being so patronising

Do you think rape is worse than murder?

 

[ElanJo]

No one on here nor Ken Clarke said 'good rape' Your clearly one of those posters who quotes things that weren't said to prove your point.
As has been my stance all along all rape is bad. But there a differences in each case which are taken into consideration when brought to trial.

Can you stop reading the hysterical headlines and give it some thought.
Just the same as murder. All murder is bad but they all have differing reasons and outcomes and circumstances. All of which lead to differing court cases and sentencing. If anything it's the people who lump everything in as one that cheapen the whole thing.

Given the thread titles 3 choices of classification then i'm sure several bluemoon members would put that case in the classification i suggested.

Where have i quoted anything?

I'm fully aware of the workings of the legal system thanks. Rape is rape, when other charges relating to the offence like 'with extreme violence' or 'aggravated' or 'kidnap' are added then the offnece becomes more serious in the eyes of the law. The point i'm trying to make is that i think rape is a worse offence than anything else and a long mandatory sentence should be given for it.

Can you stop being so patronising

Do you think rape is worse than murder?

Depends who is raping me

 

[PJMCC1UK]

No one on here nor Ken Clarke said 'good rape' Your clearly one of those posters who quotes things that weren't said to prove your point.
As has been my stance all along all rape is bad. But there a differences in each case which are taken into consideration when brought to trial.

Can you stop reading the hysterical headlines and give it some thought.
Just the same as murder. All murder is bad but they all have differing reasons and outcomes and circumstances. All of which lead to differing court cases and sentencing. If anything it's the people who lump everything in as one that cheapen the whole thing.

Given the thread titles 3 choices of classification then i'm sure several bluemoon members would put that case in the classification i suggested.

Where have i quoted anything?

I'm fully aware of the workings of the legal system thanks. Rape is rape, when other charges relating to the offence like 'with extreme violence' or 'aggravated' or 'kidnap' are added then the offnece becomes more serious in the eyes of the law. The point i'm trying to make is that i think rape is a worse offence than anything else and a long mandatory sentence should be given for it.

Can you stop being so patronising

My point was you are quoting things that aren't there. Stating that people would consider something good rape when clearly no one but a rapist would.

The thread title shows peoples disregard for what actually was said so they make things up to make it seem worse than it was.
And I don't think I was any more or any less patronising than your own comment. And that point didn't come across.

But to clarify something. You honestly believe that all rape regardless of the circumstances should be treated the same? Because again that IMO cheapens the whole thing by lumping so many instances into one judgement.

 

[Lucky13]

No one on here nor Ken Clarke said 'good rape' Your clearly one of those posters who quotes things that weren't said to prove your point.
As has been my stance all along all rape is bad. But there a differences in each case which are taken into consideration when brought to trial.

Can you stop reading the hysterical headlines and give it some thought.
Just the same as murder. All murder is bad but they all have differing reasons and outcomes and circumstances. All of which lead to differing court cases and sentencing. If anything it's the people who lump everything in as one that cheapen the whole thing.

Given the thread titles 3 choices of classification then i'm sure several bluemoon members would put that case in the classification i suggested.

Where have i quoted anything?

I'm fully aware of the workings of the legal system thanks. Rape is rape, when other charges relating to the offence like 'with extreme violence' or 'aggravated' or 'kidnap' are added then the offnece becomes more serious in the eyes of the law. The point i'm trying to make is that i think rape is a worse offence than anything else and a long mandatory sentence should be given for it.

Can you stop being so patronising

Do you think rape is worse than murder?

I think it is , a rape victim has to live with it for the rest of their lives , murder victim doesn't. Aint trying to trivialize either offence by the way.

 

[PJMCC1UK]

Given the thread titles 3 choices of classification then i'm sure several bluemoon members would put that case in the classification i suggested.

Where have i quoted anything?

I'm fully aware of the workings of the legal system thanks. Rape is rape, when other charges relating to the offence like 'with extreme violence' or 'aggravated' or 'kidnap' are added then the offnece becomes more serious in the eyes of the law. The point i'm trying to make is that i think rape is a worse offence than anything else and a long mandatory sentence should be given for it.

Can you stop being so patronising

Do you think rape is worse than murder?

I think it is , a rape victim has to live with it for the rest of their lives , murder victim doesn't. Aint trying to trivialize either offence by the way.

But they get to live. I understand the bad stuff that happened changed their life but many can put it behind them in some way and they still get to see their families and the world and do things that are of value to themselves or others. Murder victims don't.

 

[Lucky13]

Do you think rape is worse than murder?

I think it is , a rape victim has to live with it for the rest of their lives , murder victim doesn't. Aint trying to trivialize either offence by the way.

But they get to live. I understand the bad stuff that happened changed their life but many can put it behind them in some way and they still get to see their families and the world and do things that are of value to themselves or others. Murder victims don't.

There's a case for either ,for me because the murder victim is dead the crime for them is over.